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(11,302 posts)getting the spirits, gods and juju juiced up ...
(nothing really changes much in this line of work ... )
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Hekate
(90,674 posts)Evangelicals love to cast those sanctioned curses at Democratic presidents they used to do that a lot with Barack Obama and his family, pray for them all to drop dead and such.
I think they feel a roiling combination of snarky and clever and holy and gotcha. I think they are hateful and stupid.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Seriously, I had no idea. Would love to learn about. Bible approves curses.
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TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
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soldierant
(6,857 posts)Some things are in there as horrible examples. Unfortunatley, Talibangelicals aren't smart enough to know that - let alone which ones (and yes, Psalm 109 is a classic horrible example. It is also 109 in the version used by the Church of England, but a number or two off in some translations.)
Warpy
(111,255 posts)especially the young. I've "None" people are the fastest growing religious group in the country and it needs to continue, believers as wel as unbelievers rejecting the horrors of modern, politicized Christianity.
Nobody wants to be associated with sanctimonious assholes all twisted up with hatred. See: whited sepulchres.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)
American individuals than I ever could have imagined. They are not the Fundamentalists who were around when I was growing up people who were so focused on the world to come that they generally did not soil themselves by getting into something as this-worldly and grubby as politics.
I am religiously liberal, and dont have anything against Christianity as such. I certainly think the teachings of Jesus are kind, compassionate, and worth consideration.
But your comment about the whited sepulchers harks back to his warnings about hypocrisy and sanctimony and is very apropos.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)I've read the books.
Some of the teachings are kind and compassionate, others are not, like attacking a barren fig tree that was out of season. Never did get that one, didn't portray him favorably, can't think why the Council of Nicea left it in. The rubbish about divorce was also pretty awful although it was rather contradicted by the woman taken in adultery story. Maybe he thought it was a big nono but none of anyone else's business, which would have been in character. Of course, we don't really know what he said, it wasn't written down for at least a hundred years and it was monkeyed about by a bunch of men with misogynistic axes to grind.
Likewise, the Quran is a remarkable document which gave women a great range of rights. To their credit, even the tribal chieftains with axes to grind didn't mess with it too much, they were more concerned with orthodoxy. They codified their rubbish in the Hadith.
So I remain deeply skeptical about the lot of it.
The funniest reaction was from my Irish Catholic mother, who finally read the bible when she was about the age I am now. I think the explosion could be heard all the way to the Vatican.
I'm a "none," and live in a neighborhood of "nones." Nobody goes to church, temple or mosque. And they're great neighbors.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)the problem with Christianity is it exists. Christianity and the alleged words of Jesus aren't the same thing. He purportedly spoke of truths echoed by great thinkers through the ages. Rarely does Christianity reflect any of that.
LogicFirst
(571 posts)Wednesdays
(17,362 posts)-- quote attributed to Mahatma Gandhi. He might not have actually said it, but it's still a golden quote.
patphil
(6,172 posts)Pseudo-spiritual, fundamentalist, anti-christians the lot of them. Better known as christofacists. Or even CINO's.
Lonestarblue
(9,984 posts)its theology was written a couple of thousands years ago by and for the male being the dominant figure with all creatures, including women and children, as chattel to be disposed of as man a male chooses. Of course, the Old Testament is even older and even more patriarchal. If evangelical Christians lived by what they say they believe, more people might believe that they are actual followers of Jesus. They dont even live up to most of the Ten Commandments.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)papa3times
(150 posts)be fewer! The world will be better off without this fascist pig in it!
GreatShakes66
(79 posts)Glad she spoke up condemning this hatefulness.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)They call it L'esprit de l'escalier, which literally means The Spirit of the Staircase.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)zingers when I am alone in my car, and even then usually cannot envision myself winning an argument. Oh, well.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)You and I could probably have some great but completely not contemporaneous conversations.
It's also known as "afterwit." I'm not sure which one I like better.
niyad
(113,287 posts)progressoid
(49,988 posts)doublethink
(6,823 posts)"Be not deceived; God will not be mocked: for whatsoever a man (or boebert) soweth, that shall he (she) also reap." Good luck bang bang ... um not a barbie in my book, not even close. Whatever.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)He whose name shall not be mentioned.
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summer_in_TX
(2,738 posts)King David is telling God about the attacks he is experiencing and all the hateful ways his critics are behaving. He tells God that "In return for my love they accuse me, even while I make prayer for them. So they reward me evil for good and hatred for my love."
"They [his critics] say, Appoint a wicked man against him; let an accuser stand on his right. When he is tried, let him be found guilty; let his prayer be counted as sin.
May his days be few; may another seize his position."
So Boebert is putting herself in the group of those who tried to tear down King David by quoting that verse, the bad guys in the story.
I bet she has no idea. Ha ha!