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From the, I wish I would have said that, department. (Original Post) Norbert Jun 2022 OP
it's clearly a form of spell casting 'curse' stopdiggin Jun 2022 #1
Right back atcha Boeby. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #2
Yep. calimary Jun 2022 #8
She says Psalm 109 is her source. There are some "imprecatory" prayers in the Old Testament... Hekate Jun 2022 #3
They be witches! Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2022 #13
Lewis Black -- My Bible TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #17
"In the Bible" is not the same as "Bible approved." soldierant Jun 2022 #23
They've also done a wonderful job of discouraging people Warpy Jun 2022 #11
The Evangelicals have done more harm to American Christianity, to American politics, and to... Hekate Jun 2022 #20
I tell people I'm not a Communist or a Christian for the same reason Warpy Jun 2022 #21
I think..... paleotn Jun 2022 #5
Christianity has been corrupted by politics. LogicFirst Jun 2022 #12
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Wednesdays Jun 2022 #15
God's never going to hear a hate filled prayer...but then, that's not who they're praying to. patphil Jun 2022 #6
My problem with Christianity, aside from the rabid hypocrisy Republicans proclaim, is that it Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #7
Bang bang Barbie and her wienie-wagging husband can both fuck ALL the way off. 11 Bravo Jun 2022 #9
And may hers papa3times Jun 2022 #10
Is that THE Morgan Fairchild? GreatShakes66 Jun 2022 #14
The French have a phrase for thinking of the perfect thing to say after the moment has passed. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2022 #16
I am a master of this. I think of my best comebacks and... 3catwoman3 Jun 2022 #18
Well, suffice to say that people generally right about what they know. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2022 #28
May lauren receive everything she deserves. niyad Jun 2022 #19
Where is this? progressoid Jun 2022 #22
Galatians 6:7 ... doublethink Jun 2022 #24
Funny, that was my prayer for COL Mustard Jun 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Jun 2022 #26
Had to read Psalm 109 to get the context. summer_in_TX Jun 2022 #27
K&R ck4829 Jun 2022 #29
Wait until she reads Romans 3:23. Nothing beats it. Believe me. czarjak Jun 2022 #30

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
1. it's clearly a form of spell casting 'curse'
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

getting the spirits, gods and juju juiced up ...

(nothing really changes much in this line of work ... )

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
3. She says Psalm 109 is her source. There are some "imprecatory" prayers in the Old Testament...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

Evangelicals love to cast those sanctioned curses at Democratic presidents — they used to do that a lot with Barack Obama and his family, pray for them all to drop dead and such.

I think they feel a roiling combination of snarky and clever and holy and gotcha. I think they are hateful and stupid.

Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
23. "In the Bible" is not the same as "Bible approved."
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 08:24 PM
Jun 2022

Some things are in there as horrible examples. Unfortunatley, Talibangelicals aren't smart enough to know that - let alone which ones (and yes, Psalm 109 is a classic horrible example. It is also 109 in the version used by the Church of England, but a number or two off in some translations.)

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
11. They've also done a wonderful job of discouraging people
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jun 2022

especially the young. I've "None" people are the fastest growing religious group in the country and it needs to continue, believers as wel as unbelievers rejecting the horrors of modern, politicized Christianity.

Nobody wants to be associated with sanctimonious assholes all twisted up with hatred. See: whited sepulchres.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
20. The Evangelicals have done more harm to American Christianity, to American politics, and to...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:04 PM
Jun 2022

… American individuals than I ever could have imagined. They are not the Fundamentalists who were around when I was growing up — people who were so focused on the world to come that they generally did not soil themselves by getting into something as this-worldly and grubby as politics.

I am religiously liberal, and don’t have anything against Christianity as such. I certainly think the teachings of Jesus are kind, compassionate, and worth consideration.

But your comment about the whited sepulchers harks back to his warnings about hypocrisy and sanctimony and is very apropos.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
21. I tell people I'm not a Communist or a Christian for the same reason
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jun 2022

I've read the books.

Some of the teachings are kind and compassionate, others are not, like attacking a barren fig tree that was out of season. Never did get that one, didn't portray him favorably, can't think why the Council of Nicea left it in. The rubbish about divorce was also pretty awful although it was rather contradicted by the woman taken in adultery story. Maybe he thought it was a big nono but none of anyone else's business, which would have been in character. Of course, we don't really know what he said, it wasn't written down for at least a hundred years and it was monkeyed about by a bunch of men with misogynistic axes to grind.

Likewise, the Quran is a remarkable document which gave women a great range of rights. To their credit, even the tribal chieftains with axes to grind didn't mess with it too much, they were more concerned with orthodoxy. They codified their rubbish in the Hadith.

So I remain deeply skeptical about the lot of it.

The funniest reaction was from my Irish Catholic mother, who finally read the bible when she was about the age I am now. I think the explosion could be heard all the way to the Vatican.

I'm a "none," and live in a neighborhood of "nones." Nobody goes to church, temple or mosque. And they're great neighbors.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
5. I think.....
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 12:16 PM
Jun 2022

the problem with Christianity is it exists. Christianity and the alleged words of Jesus aren't the same thing. He purportedly spoke of truths echoed by great thinkers through the ages. Rarely does Christianity reflect any of that.

Wednesdays

(17,362 posts)
15. "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jun 2022

-- quote attributed to Mahatma Gandhi. He might not have actually said it, but it's still a golden quote.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
6. God's never going to hear a hate filled prayer...but then, that's not who they're praying to.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jun 2022

Pseudo-spiritual, fundamentalist, anti-christians the lot of them. Better known as christofacists. Or even CINO's.

Lonestarblue

(9,984 posts)
7. My problem with Christianity, aside from the rabid hypocrisy Republicans proclaim, is that it
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

its theology was written a couple of thousands years ago by and for the male being the dominant figure with all creatures, including women and children, as chattel to be disposed of as man a male chooses. Of course, the Old Testament is even older and even more patriarchal. If evangelical Christians lived by what they say they believe, more people might believe that they are actual followers of Jesus. They don’t even live up to most of the Ten Commandments.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
16. The French have a phrase for thinking of the perfect thing to say after the moment has passed.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:53 PM
Jun 2022

They call it L'esprit de l'escalier, which literally means The Spirit of the Staircase.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
18. I am a master of this. I think of my best comebacks and...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jun 2022

…zingers when I am alone in my car, and even then usually cannot envision myself winning an argument. Oh, well.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
28. Well, suffice to say that people generally right about what they know.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:59 AM
Jun 2022

You and I could probably have some great but completely not contemporaneous conversations.

It's also known as "afterwit." I'm not sure which one I like better.

doublethink

(6,823 posts)
24. Galatians 6:7 ...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 09:32 PM
Jun 2022

"Be not deceived; God will not be mocked: for whatsoever a man (or boebert) soweth, that shall he (she) also reap." Good luck bang bang ... um not a barbie in my book, not even close. Whatever.

Response to Norbert (Original post)

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
27. Had to read Psalm 109 to get the context.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:14 AM
Jun 2022

King David is telling God about the attacks he is experiencing and all the hateful ways his critics are behaving. He tells God that "In return for my love they accuse me, even while I make prayer for them. So they reward me evil for good and hatred for my love."

"They [his critics] say, “Appoint a wicked man against him; let an accuser stand on his right. When he is tried, let him be found guilty; let his prayer be counted as sin.
May his days be few; may another seize his position."

So Boebert is putting herself in the group of those who tried to tear down King David by quoting that verse, the bad guys in the story.

I bet she has no idea. Ha ha!

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