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nolabear

(41,960 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 12:58 PM Jun 2022

The Senate may have a deal on gun reform. Imperfect but something.

I’d like a WHOLE lot more, but maybe they can get this much done, and if it helps at all maybe the point will be made that reform isn’t “takin’ our freedoms” and working together, even a little, isn’t betrayal.


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The Senate may have a deal on gun reform. Imperfect but something. (Original Post) nolabear Jun 2022 OP
More details for those who can't access the rest of the tweet TigressDem Jun 2022 #1
Finally, there's hope! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2022 #2
It's a start. TigressDem Jun 2022 #3
My state already has a law banning red flag laws BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #4
Florida did and a success it has been. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #5
And I'm sure they won't, left to their own devices. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #6
So the Republicans are going to manage taking the gun control issued away from Democrats Chainfire Jun 2022 #7
That's my view, too. SharonClark Jun 2022 #12
It's never going to be perfect. Iggo Jun 2022 #8
Yeah, while there is no new gun control with this bill... PTWB Jun 2022 #9
This "deal" seems to perpetuate the nonsense that gun violence is mostly a mental health issue. Bleacher Creature Jun 2022 #10
+1 SunImp Jun 2022 #14
What does this mean? Chuuku Davis Jun 2022 #11
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #13

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
1. More details for those who can't access the rest of the tweet
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jun 2022


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-negotiators-announces-bipartisan-framework-for-gun-violence-agreement



In a significant development, 20 senators, including 10 Republicans, released a statement calling for passage. That is potentially crucial because the biggest obstacle to enacting the measure is probably in the 50-50 Senate, where at least 10 GOP votes will be needed to attain the usual 60-vote threshold for approval.



The compromise would make the juvenile records of gun buyers under age 21 available when they undergo background checks. The suspects who killed 10 people at a grocery store in Buffalo and 19 students and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde were both 18, and many of the attackers who have committed mass shootings in recent years have been young.

The agreement would offer money to states to implement “red flag” laws that make it easier to temporarily take guns from people considered potentially violent, and to bolster school safety and mental health programs.

And it would take other steps, including requiring more people who sell guns obtain federal dealers’ licenses, which means they would have to conduct background checks of purchasers.

Biden said in a statement that the framework “does not do everything that I think is needed, but it reflects important steps in the right direction, and would be the most significant gun safety legislation to pass Congress in decades.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
3. It's a start.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

To get this can prevent some of these types of young angry shooters and get them help.

Again, political detente. Get agreement where possible and keep working.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
4. My state already has a law banning red flag laws
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

As do several others. Hard to see a lot of red states enacting red flag laws on their own. In fact let’s just say it won’t happen.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
6. And I'm sure they won't, left to their own devices.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:06 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe someone else is up for sunshine pumping today.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
7. So the Republicans are going to manage taking the gun control issued away from Democrats
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jun 2022

without addressing assault weapons and large capacity magazines. Hip-hip-ho-hum.

Next they will be willing to concede allowing abortions for any woman over the age of 80.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
8. It's never going to be perfect.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jun 2022

But so what?

Don’t let anyone tell you it’s a choice between Perfect or Nothing.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
9. Yeah, while there is no new gun control with this bill...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jun 2022

The addition of enhanced background checks for purchasers under 21 and the encouragement of states to adopt red flag laws will save someone’s life.

And the GOP support for this law may serve an alternate purpose to depress Republican turnout in November, which could lead to additional, perhaps more substantial, legislation.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
10. This "deal" seems to perpetuate the nonsense that gun violence is mostly a mental health issue.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:10 PM
Jun 2022

I'll support anything we can get, but this bill can't be used to argue that we don't need to eventually do more.

Chuuku Davis

(565 posts)
11. What does this mean?
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jun 2022

And it would take other steps, including requiring more people who sell guns obtain federal dealers’ licenses, which means they would have to conduct background checks of purchasers.

No more private sales??

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