A Rant: The Patriot Front arrest in Idaho is not a laughing matter.

[Behind the Aegis]

The recent arrest of 31 one paramilitary assholes in Idaho on their way to "disrupt" a Pride Gathering in Idaho is no laughing matter. While I certainly appreciate dark comedy and satire, there have been way too many posts which are seemingly making light of the situation in a way I find disrespectful and disturbing. Thankfully, nothing came of it, and that may be largely in part to a good Samaritan following the "if you see something, say something" mantra.

Six years ago, today, June 6th, another bigoted asshole went into a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida and massacred 49 gay, bi, lesbian, and allied persons in the Pulse Nightclub. Today, it could have happened again, yet some think this is a time for jokes. It isn't! These supremacists and those like them are dangerous, and I will agree, many are so stupid they are easily caught, but there are those who aren't stupid and use mistakes made by these attempts to improve their tactics. We are only HALF-WAY though pride month and cities around the country are having events for the next two weeks. Pride events are soft targets.

Again, while I, like many, try to find humor in bad situations, this is one where I feel we, the GLBT community, dodged a bullet...literally. So, when commenting on the topic, perhaps a bit of respect is owed, at least until the month of Pride is over. Then have at it with the jokes and laughing at the situation.

"They must secretly be faggots!"

STOP! Just FUCKING STOP! MOST homophobes are NOT secret homos! Yes, I know about the two pathetic studies from several decades ago, and yes, I also know all the anecdotal "proof" about self-loathing gay men (funny, we rarely see this "secret homo" charge leveled against homophobic women). When people make this claim, and I also know gay people do it too, it implies that homophobia is because of homosexuality and the crimes against us are BY us; they aren't! Heterosexuals need to OWN their privilege and admit that much of the hate against my community is coming from them, not gay people.

The people who were planning this attack are not isolated. There is a real possibility that what we witnessed today we will witness next weekend with very different results. These people are dangerous, deranged, and despicable. So, while it is good to sometimes laugh at the darkness, it is also important to respect the reality and let me remind you of it....

Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34

Stanley Almodovar III, 23

Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20

Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22

Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36

Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22

Luis S. Vielma, 22

Kimberly Morris, 37

Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30

Darryl Roman Burt II, 29

Deonka Deidra Drayton, 32

Alejandro Barrios Martinez, 21

Anthony Luis Laureanodisla, 25

Jean Carlos Mendez Perez, 35

Franky Jimmy Dejesus Velazquez, 50

Amanda Alvear, 25

Martin Benitez Torres, 33

Luis Daniel Wilson-Leon, 37

Mercedez Marisol Flores, 26

Xavier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado, 35

Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25

Simon Adrian Carrillo Fernandez, 31

Oscar A Aracena-Montero, 26

Enrique L. Rios, Jr., 25

Miguel Angel Honorato, 30

Javier Jorge-Reyes, 40

Joel Rayon Paniagua, 32

Jason Benjamin Josaphat, 19

Cory James Connell, 21

Juan P. Rivera Velazquez, 37

Luis Daniel Conde, 39

Shane Evan Tomlinson, 33

Juan Chavez-Martinez, 25

Jerald Arthur Wright, 31

Leroy Valentin Fernandez, 25

Tevin Eugene Crosby, 25

Jonathan Antonio Camuy Vega, 24

Jean C. Nives Rodriguez, 27

Rodolfo Ayala-Ayala, 33

Brenda Lee Marquez McCool, 49

Yilmary Rodriguez Solivan, 24

Christopher Andrew Leinonen, 32

Angel L. Candelario-Padro, 28

Frank Hernandez, 27

Paul Terrell Henry, 41

Antonio Davon Brown, 29

Christopher Joseph Sanfeliz, 24

Akyra Monet Murray, 18

Geraldo A. Ortiz-Jimenez, 25

see their faces here: https://time.com/4366349/orlando-shooting-victims-photos/

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[The Unmitigated Gall]

2. Absolutely agree

These scum, if their plan had worked, would have rained down brutality and quite possibly murder, on women, children and men utterly unprepared to face their onslaught.

[sheshe2]

3. Agree.

Recommend.

[70sEraVet]

4. I agree with you. And I don't think those jerks in Idaho were just planning to 'disrupt' the parade.

I have no doubt, that the plan was to start a riot, then someone was there waiting with weapons for them.
It would have been WAY worse than the Pulse Nightclub shooting.

[Novara]

50. That's what I'm wondering

If they had weapons stashed somewhere. I mean, why would 31 of them - with their faces covered - travel in the back of a U-Haul just to get in the way of a parade?

I can't imagine they were going to do this unarmed., These people are the worst of the worst of the racist hate groups. Doing this unarmed isn't really their style.

[70sEraVet]

53. The Oath-Keepers did exactly that during the Jan6 Insurrection.

They had a stash of weapons hidden in a hotel room just outside DC.

[NoRethugFriends]

5. Exactly! (nt)

[BettyonRed]

6. What is the draw for young Hispanic men?

The name list is profoundly Hispanic looking.

[MomInTheCrowd]

10. Spanish speaking radio is infiltrated with right wing craziness...

[OMGWTF]

67. This is a fact, and the Dems had better do counter ads or they're fked.

[BlackSkimmer]

68. Those names were the names of the victims in the Pulse massacre.

[stage left]

12. The names

are the victims from the Pulse Nightclub massacre, not the names of the Patriot front members.

[BettyonRed]

16. Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry

I thought those were the names of the crazy guys in the truck.

[Skittles]

83. hey

I initially thought the same

[BlueAJ]

13. The names were the victims from the Pulse massacre in Orlando

It was an LGBT plus club that had been a safe space for the LGBT plus Hispanic/Latino community and others.

[IronLionZion]

36. Patriot Front are white supremacists

the list of names in OP are victims of the Orlando nightclub shooting. It can be confusing since both are mentioned in the OP

On a related note, an Afghani Muslim terrorist shot up the nightclub but the white guys using violence and intimidation against civilians to pursue a political agenda are not called terrorists due to the whiteness of their skin.

[OrangeJoe]

71. Their ages

Somebody owes the Baby Boomers an apology. Everyone of these schmucks was a youngin'. I mean getting in and out of that U-Haul was probably beyond the knees of most boomers, but still...

[barbtries]

75. Those are not the patriot front,

I believe they are the victims of the Pulse nightclub mass murder.

ETA it was in Miami with a large Latinx population.

there is a link to the people arrested the other day. every single one of them young, male and white.

eta https://www.kxly.com/several-people-detained-in-coeur-dalene-heavy-police-presence/

[Laha]

7. Well said

I'm guilty of making light of this. It's fun to laugh at fools.

But you're so right. Those people are not an anomaly. We must be vigilant.

Endless thanks to the efforts of the law enforcement officers that prevented this from becoming another tragedy.

Hopes for the future.

Happy Pride!

[hlthe2b]

8. Yes. My reaction was first and foremost to be relieved that ID local law enforcement reacted so

appropriately and seriously to this threat. Honestly, do we think that sans some big FBI warning that some other locales would, especially given the infiltration of SOME law enforcement agencies? My immediate reaction to this story was to give some major kudos to that sheriff and his assisting LEO. Damn, right they were plotting violence.

I haven't seen the posts to which you refer--not that they aren't present, but I've had a very heavy work schedule and thus have missed quite a few posts. Not sure dark humor covers all that--especially given most of us are still reeling from Uvalde and all the other recent gun violence. I must say at a very molecular level I just can't fathom the reasoning behind these hate groups. Not to excuse the "closeted" comments--because I cannot, but I think a lot just really cannot fathom what is behind this explosion of hate.

[jmowreader]

23. Kootenai and Bonner County cops have no patience for extremists

People like the Aryan Nations have caused a LOT of damage to Idaho's prestige in the world. You come up here acting like a Nazi, they will deal with you most harshly.

[2Gingersnaps]

27. Good on them!

[IronLionZion]

37. Good for them since Idaho has that reputation

They might want travel dollars instead of Nazis

[ShazzieB]

42. Good to know!

[MomInTheCrowd]

9. Agreed- and you opened my eyes a bit wider...

My old self recognized that, tucked into the nether regions of my mind, the old thought that these were closeted, self-loathing, gay people lashing out. Forgive me and Thank You.

[BlueAJ]

11. Thank you for this post

I felt this way earlier and clicked away feeling dismayed. I come to DU sometimes to try and find community and realize this is not always a safe, considerate or understanding community.

[summer_in_TX]

35. It's true DU doesn't always feel like a safe or considerate community.

But posts like that of the OP help educate us, open our eyes so that we are able to be more understanding and considerate, and hopefully provide a safe community.

I hadn't thought some of the "common knowledge" through like the OP has and now I see he/she is surely correct in that.


Thank you!

[Delphinus]

51. I'm so sorry ...

I hope we can become much more a safe, considerate, and understanding community.

[brer cat]

15. Thank you for this post, BtA.

K&R

[FreeState]

17. K&R

[Ohio Joe]

18. K&R - nt

[yardwork]

19. Thank you for this post.

[MotorCityBeard]

20. Thank you for posting this, I agree 100%

I posted on vercetti2021's thread this morning saying the same thing. There is NOTHING funny about this and it could have gone very badly if they hadn't been stopped.

[vercetti2021]

25. I get that

I made it because I don't fear these troglodytes. They want me to be scared but I laugh in their faces.

[BlackSkimmer]

65. Yet you constantly post about carrying a gun, and being sure someone is coming to "kick your

door in.” Can’t have it both ways.

Your post was not something those idiots would see…you posted it here, for some reason.

[vercetti2021]

79. Ok

So I post something that I don't care whether they see it or not. Why are you so critical of me? I'm rough around the edges because I'm not gonna tolerate their bullshit. How about we do each other a favor and just do a mutual ignore? That way you don't have to see anything I post.

[Justice matters.]

21. K&R

Thanks for posting this reminder to everyone.

"if you see something, hear something, 52 weeks/year, say something."

>https://www.fbi.gov/tips

[Danmel]

22. Thank you for sharing this

[vercetti2021]

24. I get where you're coming from

But I see these chicken shits as a joke. I'm transgender and I'm not afraid of a bunch of khaki wearing buttholes.

[2Gingersnaps]

26. I completely agree, and I would go even further,

From the time of the Charlottesville March I believe we were put on notice that the second Civil War is on. All over this country war is being made on anyone that qualifies as "the other." The LBGTQ community, obviously. You have the misfortune of being in the front seats at the culture war. Just ask Ron DeSantis, Presidential want to be. The messaging would make Joseph Goebbels blush with envy the way the messaging floats so quickly around the rightwingosphere.

As the January 6 hearings have commenced we are again hearing "what insurrection?" "what about the summer of 2020?" "BLM and Antifa" "cities burned to the ground"

Yeah, those BLM marches were being infiltrated and violence was being egged on all over the country. So these people come from all over the country to incite violence at a Pride march? Nah, I am not surprised. And yes I am deeply concerned. Just look at the slate of Republican Candidates, talk about frightening and disturbing.

All I can say is I hope this is an indication that right wing violence is finally getting the attention it has needed since Oklahoma City.

[David__77]

28. The "closet case" stuff is bad.

Obnoxiously, that was done with the guy who killed a bunch of people in Orlando.

[FreeState]

38. It happens here every time anti-gay groups are talked about

It gets really tiering. But the. Again it makes it easy too see who are truly supports us.

[NullTuples]

29. Also, I believe the affiliated groups have more events planned. Here's another that just happened.

This happened yesterday.

“a group of 8-10 Proud Boys” who stormed the room and shouted homophobic and transphobic threats at them, forcing them to leave the event with a security guard and hide in a back office.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Proud-boys-storm-Bay-Area-Drag-Queen-story-hour-17236693.php

[Haggis 4 Breakfast]

76. I'm glad that they recognize that they are boys.

Becauser REAL MEN do not feel the need to terrorize and terrify children.

[wnylib]

30. Ally here, and I took it very seriously.

This weekend was the opening of the local outdoor summer market in my community. It was dedicated to Pride celebration. Three blocks worth of booths with crafts, baked goods, and early season produce. It was jam packed with LGBTQ people and friends and allies. Several people dressed in rainbow t-shirts and some draped in rainbow capes.

As I strolled along, looking at items for sale, it occurred to me that a hate-filled gun toter could show up to slaughter unsuspecting people. I began looking around to see what buildings in the area might provide shelter if that happened.

Such is the nature of the nation these days. Maybe I am a little more inclined to think of potential slaughter settings, living in NY state, not far from Buffalo where hate shootings are still very much on people's minds.

The fact that a group of haters actually planned on carrying out violence at a celebration and were stopped only by an observant person who alerted law enforcement means that the nightmare I feared in my community nearly happened in another community across the country from me.

I take all threats like this very seriously. I don't know WTF is wrong with people who carry that much hatred toward people just because they exist. But I know that the haters do exist and now feel it necessary to be on the lookout for them in all soft target settings.

[Behind the Aegis]

45. After the news broke, I told my husband we need a plan.

Tulsa Pride is at the end of the month. My husband and I rarely go in opposite directions at events like that, but it does happen. This year, I really feel we need an emergency plan and a place to meet if something happens and we are not together or get separated. I have always been cautious at pride events, mainly because I don't like huge crowds. I am the person who knows where all the exits are in a theatre. I know how many doors it takes to get to a stairwell in a hotel. I count them. I always listen to the flight attendants, though I have heard the speeches many times. I know where all those exits are too, but I usually count heads, just in case I have to go over people! It is better to be prepared and not need it, then need it and not be prepared.

I intend to have fun at the first Pride outing in two years! However, I am sadly aware of how hate-filled the country has become, especially directed at GLBT people, especially of recent. I won't let them spoil my fun, but I will remain vigilant.

[wnylib]

46. Also later this month are Juneteenth celebrations.

My community always has an outdoor celebrstion in a large park setting. Another time and place for people to be on alert.

[Behind the Aegis]

81. Have a fun time, but be aware of your surroundings.

It is a fucking shame we can't enjoy "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" because some small-minded peckerwoods have decided we aren't "worthy". Fuck them! We are still going to have fun!

[wnylib]

82. I am white, have never been to a Juneteenth celebration

before, but was invited by a friend to be there. So I am going. Considering the country's history of racist shootings, it might be me who looks like someone to keep an eye on.

[NullTuples]

78. Thank you for taking care of yourself and your husband.

[Meowmee]

31. Agree and I am not laughing.

[Martin68]

32. Who was laughing?

[FreeState]

39. Look around

There are a few threads - even when we as the LGBT members have pointed out it isn’t funny they just reply to us laughing or making excuses - same as it’s been for years.

[vercetti2021]

47. I'm trans

I think its serious but I'm not gonna miss a chance to roast the unholy hell out of them either.

[gldstwmn]

33. I actually find it terrifying. There was also an account on Twitter of the woman that recorded

the video being harassed by the police afterward. I sometimes wonder if this is what 1930's Germany felt like. I am saying that in all seriousness.
I see Ron DeSantis having press conferences with what looks like military people standing behind him and I find it extremely unsettling.
We've been talking about criminal Republican presidents a lot lately and I thought of President Reagan and how not only did he do nothing about the AIDS epidemic, he completely ignored it. Technically I don't think that was criminal but it damn well should have been.

[calimary]

44. I do, too. Terrifying, discouraging, and tremendously disappointing.

[BlackSkimmer]

69. It is terrifying. Nothing funny about these idiots.

They believe in their hatred. They really do.

[spike jones]

34. In other times and other places the Idaho group would be called death squads.

With today's fire power on the streets, one person can do the killing that, in past years, would take a squad of guys to do. So yes we have death squads now roaming the country side.

[PJMcK]

40. A righteous rant!

Extremely well written and I whole heartedly agree with every point you make.

[JoeOtterbein]

41. K n R with...

...(tears).

[Warpy]

43. THEY are a laughing matter

What they were planning to do is most definitely NOT. Nor is the infrastructure that supports them, including pig ignorant cops who call them "friendlies" because they beat up black people.

We know how it was organized--Discord, Gab, Telegram, TFG;s idiotic network, even Farcebook. What we don't know is where they got the funding to assemble from all over the country to a single Pride event in a single state. Did they think it would be an easy target? Did someone in ID recruit them for it? Who bought all those plane tickets? And where the hell was the FBI? Are they STILL not taking right wing violent extremism seriously because these punks schmooze the cops?

Taken one at a time, these tiki torch Nazis (yes, some were there, too) are nothing but cowardly fools. It's only when they band together and have funding that they become dangerous.

[AntiFascist]

48. I totally agree...

it's too easy to laugh at the QAnon and alt-right idiots, but idiots with guns are no laughing matter.

[IngridsLittleAngel]

49. None of this is a laughing matter

We are in a one-party nation at this point. Over the years, what was one known as the Republican party has become a domestic terrorist organization, and that really snowballed with Drumpf. We now have armed to the teeth psychopaths like these Patriot Front fascists who can't wait to kill "the others," with LGBTQ's at the top of their list. And we have loudmouthed terrorists like DeSatan and Abbutt pushing hatred upon us, with Fux gleefully broadcasting every hateful word and more.

We've seen it before: When the QOP speaks, their armed qult members act. Ask Gabby Giffords.

A terrorist attack was averted on Saturday when these 31 terrorists were arrested. They need to charged with each and every possible crime, and hopefully convicted. Had they gotten their way, there would've been blood and people would've died.

These people - from the politicians on down to their stupid and insane foot solders - want to kill us. Period. This is no culture war. We're basically fighting for our lives at this point. Their goal is to eliminate us.

History is repeating itself, just with LGBTQ's on the top of the list this time instead of the Jewish.

And, no... Few - and probably none - of these people are closeted, self-loathing LGBTQ's. They're evil monsters, whose bigotries have been coddled and nurtured and been allowed to grow. They're part of gun culture. They believe they are at war with anyone who is the "enemy." And to them, the enemy is anyone who is not like them and/or who the QOP says is the enemy.

2022 has been wall-to-wall nonstop "trans people are the enemy!" and "gays are evil!" and "groomers!" So, gee. What a shock that they want to second amendment solution us... just like they did with Gabby Giffords.

There is nothing funny about this. Any of this. It's scary and sickening and infuriating and... I hope I'm wrong but I fear a tragedy happening at a Pride event before the month is over.

We likely dodged one on Saturday.

[Novara]

52. They've been charged with a misdemeanor

If they had weapons on them it would have been a more serious charge. See, I think they had weapons stashed somewhere and they're smart enough to not travel with them because if caught, it's a much more serious charge. As it is they are only facing a misdemeanor.

They're going to be smarter next time.

No. Not a laughing matter at all.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

56. Good points.

I have no doubt they did a lot of forward planning here.

Starting with checking around the nation looking for parades and gatherings during Pride Month. And looking at the areas where these activities will be held. They likely felt they would have a lot of success with this one as it was in Northern Idaho.

I want them to be able to find out where the funding is coming from, if possible.

[getagrip_already]

63. I'm not sure being armed would have mattered here.....

The local statute for rioting is here:

TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 64
RIOT, ROUT, UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY, PRIZE FIGHTING, DISTURBING PEACE
18-6402. RIOT — FELONY — MISDEMEANOR — PUNISHMENT. (1) A riot is a felony if:
(a) It occurs on or about the state penitentiary, a county or city jail, or any other penal facility in this state, or it involves the taking of one or more hostages. Violation of the provisions of this subsection is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for not less than five (5) years, no [nor] more than twenty (20) years or a fine not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000), or both such fine and imprisonment.
(b) The destruction or damage to public or private property exceeds five hundred dollars ($500). Violation of the provisions of this subsection is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for not more than five (5) years or a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or both such fine and imprisonment.
(2) A riot is a misdemeanor in all other circumstances punishable by imprisonment in the city or county jail for not more than one (1) year and a fine not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).
History:

Weapons' aren't mentioned as a contributory element to whether it is a misdemeanor or felony in this case.

That's not to say they wouldn't also be charged with firearm related charges if they broke those alws also, just that it wouldn't have had an impact on the conspiracy to riot charge.

But I wonder why the uhaul? Were they all gonna jump out and do a charge? Why wouldn't they take separate cars? Just curious.

[IronLionZion]

54. I'll call them terrorists

even if I'm the only one saying it.

[smb]

55. I'm A Pragmatist

If the prospect of having people snickering about "a bunch of guys obsessed with Teh Gay jam-packed against each other in a hot sweaty trailer" deters some of these pinheads from joining in the next attempt, I'm not seeing a problem with that.

[jaxexpat]

57. I looked for the humor but there was none.

[AngryOldDem]

58. Frankly, I brace for violence at any Pride gathering anymore.

Just a toxic brew of political and religious extremism.

I’m just grateful that somebody spoke up, and even more grateful that the authorities took it seriously.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

59. K&R

[slightlv]

60. I don't consider them or their allies a laughing matter

and I don't believe they weren't armed. In fact, in the first articles I read, it was reported they -were- armed. That was later dropped. Knowing this group, the guns were somewhere. They want the maximum damage with the minimum effort; always.

I'm not gay, nor any of the "letters," tho I am an ally and have many friends within the groups. I am female, and these "supremacist" groups have also been tracking our marches and gatherings and beating up on us, as well. We ALL are in danger from them simply because we don't agree with their "norm." We must become each other's allies; befriend and support each other. Our very lives and civil rights depend upon it.

[Initech]

61. No it wasn't. It was extremely disturbing and could have ended very badly.

The fact that they all traveled from outside the area with the intent to disrupt and cause a riot is, dare I call it, an act of terrorism. And it will likely inspire copycats.

[The Jungle 1]

62. These maggots came to Philadelphia to march.

They did the same thing showing up in rental vans.
The people of Philadelphia ran them out of the city. There was pushing shoving and fights. The maggots popped a smoke bomb and ran away. I bet they don't come back. Philly is not going to allow it.
We cannot depend on government for everything. Sometimes we must push back.
This was not an organized response. It was just people on the street who banded together and ran the maggots out of town.
https://6abc.com/patriot-front-philadelphia-protest-white-supremacist/10858983/

[BlackSkimmer]

64. K and r.

Sadly, even some here just don’t get it.

[Act_of_Reparation]

66. Totally agree.

Imagine some goober suggesting a racist is "secretly black".

[llashram]

70. I respect that

these traitors are out here. Police, fire, national guards, walking the streets in EVERY PROFESSION. Some are in the swamps and sewers, ready for trumps signal to attack or not. Either way, TPOSFP is hoping still to overturn our democracy. All I know is they go down and bleed out like any other human being. I don't fear these people who are fooled by a narcissistic psychopath. They have a death wish being fooled by the propaganda they are patriots. They are white race warriors led by trump trying to turn this country into a white male fascist theocracy. Period.

They fear all who are not white, darker-skinned specifically. This is not politics as usual during every election cycle. It is about class differences, race differences, gender issues and the white male fear issues turn into a long list of BULLSHIT differences. You are a voice in the wilderness with the truth.

TO HELL WITH RW TRAITORS!

[IronLionZion]

72. Names of the arrested Patriot Front assholes if anyone is into naming and shaming

https://www.kxly.com/several-people-detained-in-coeur-dalene-heavy-police-presence/

Jared Michael Boyce
Nathan David Brenner
Colton Michael Brown
Josiah Daniel Buster
Mishael Joshua Buster
Devin Wayne Center
Dylan Carter Corio
Winston North Durham
Joseph Garret Garland
Branden Mitchel Haney
Richard Jacob Jessop
James Michael Johnson
James Julius Johnson
Connor Patrick Moran
Kieran Padraig Morris
Lawrence Alexander Norman
Justin Michael Oleary
Cameron Kathan Pruitt
Forrest Clark Rankin
Thomas Ryan Rousseau
Conor James Ryan
Spencer Thomas Simpson
Derek Joseph Smith
Alexander Nicholai Sisenstein
Dakota Ray Tabler
Steven Derrick Tucker
Wesley Evan Van Horn
Mitchell Frederick Wagner
Nathaniel Taylor Whitfield
Robert Benjamin Whitted
Graham Jones Whitsom

And yes, a good citizen saw these mofos with their gear and reported them to police. Saw something and said something.

[JudyM]

73. Thanks for this post, BtA, and glad supporters are showing up.

That feeling of hollowness… brings Matt Shepard to mind, the depravity that lurks out there with haters.

[Treefrog]

77. This right here.

Blows my mind that anyone finds this homophobia to be amusing.

I was sad to read people laughing about it on this site.

[barbtries]

74. thank you.

You're right of course. They weren't going to party down with the gays and have a good time.
They'll also suffer almost no consequences at all. They'll all be out of jail within days if not hours and probably get their riot gear back on the way out the door. They're still a threat.

[NCLefty]

80. I'm just glad the FBI is watching them.