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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:50 AM Jun 2022

When Trump said he wanted the crowd to "march down to the Cap-i-tol"..?

Did he already know that the Proud Boys were already there?

And if he could get his people to join them, they would be that much stronger?

Whether or not he knew, that was what happened. They over-whelmed the Capitol Police force.

If he knew the Proud Boys were at the Capitol or on their way, it would indicate that he was aware of the plans to stop the official proceeding of counting the electoral votes, whether or not he knew their plans were to take over the Capitol.

Then he cheered them on from the television sets at the White House.

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Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. He did know.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:54 AM
Jun 2022

That’s what all the burner phones were for.

This was NOT a spontaneous event. They planned the before, the during, and the AFTER.

I want to hear the plans they had for after the coup. And everything else, too. Pretty please!

gab13by13

(21,307 posts)
2. It was all coordinated from the Willard Hotel,
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:03 AM
Jun 2022

The gangs (not militias) needed the mob to help breach the Capitol.

sop

(10,158 posts)
3. I think we're putting too fine a point on all this. Mr "I alone can fix it" planned everything.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:24 AM
Jun 2022

Trump cannot plead ignorance after this crime; by his own admission he's always been in charge of everything, made every decision and claimed he was a genius. Here's a list of all the things he knows more about than anyone else (Axios):

- Campaign finance: "I think nobody knows more about campaign finance than I do, because I'm the biggest contributor." (1999.)

- TV ratings: "I know more about people who get ratings than anyone." (October 2012.)

- ISIS: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do." (November 2015.)

- Social media: "I understand social media. I understand the power of Twitter. I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?" (November 2015.)

- Courts: "I know more about courts than any human being on Earth." (November 2015.)

- Lawsuits: "[W]ho knows more about lawsuits than I do? I'm the king." (January 2016.)

- Politicians: "I understand politicians better than anybody."

- The visa system: "[N]obody knows the system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. ... Nobody else on this dais knows how to change it like I do, believe me." (March 2016.)

- Trade: "Nobody knows more about trade than me." (March 2016.)

- The U.S. government system: "[N]obody knows the system better than I do." (April 2016.)

- Renewable energy: "I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth." (April 2016.)

- Taxes: "I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world." (May 2016.)

- Debt: "I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me." (June 2016.)

- Money: "I understand money better than anybody." (June 2016.)

- Infrastructure: "[L]ook, as a builder, nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump." (July 2016.)

- Borders: Trump said in 2016 that Sheriff Joe Arpaio said he was endorsing him for president because "you know more about this stuff than anybody."

- Democrats: "I think I know more about the other side than almost anybody." (November 2016.)

- Construction: "[N]obody knows more about construction than I do." (May 2018.)

- The economy: "I think I know about it better than [the Federal Reserve]." (October 2018.)

- Technology: "Technology — nobody knows more about technology than me." (December 2018.)

- Drones: "I know more about drones than anybody. I know about every form of safety that you can have." (January 2019.)

- Drone technology: "Having a drone fly overhead — and I think nobody knows much more about technology, this type of technology certainly, than I do." (January 2019.)

We can add sedition to the list now, and soon he'll know more about prison than anyone.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
5. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were the vanguard; the point of the spear.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jun 2022

They got there at 10:30AM and were already in position to begin the assault when the mob arrived to back them up.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
6. Yes, that is new information that came out in the First Hearing.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jun 2022

From the testimony of the independent film maker that was following the Proud Boys down to the Capitol.

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