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drray23

(7,627 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 11:14 AM Jun 2022

very smart strategy from the Jan 6 commitee

What they are establishing is that everybody knew that Trump had lost election night but Trump and maybe Giuliani both insisted otherwise.
This proves Trump had the intent and resolve to carry on contesting it including plotting to reverse it.

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very smart strategy from the Jan 6 commitee (Original Post) drray23 Jun 2022 OP
K&R, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #1
WHO, knew? czarjak Jun 2022 #2
As ALWAYS it's about the grift. Getting suckers to send him money. PERIOD! usaf-vet Jun 2022 #30
Yup. Upwards of $250 MILLION according to MSNBC tonight! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2022 #33
From his campaign to his AG, evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Trump was committed to defrauding ancianita Jun 2022 #3
The format proved itself to be effective following the Thursday night hearing. Politicub Jun 2022 #4
It's quite brilliant, indeed! Aussie105 Jun 2022 #35
Let's hope the entire team at the DOJ is ready for aggressive, hard fought, courageous victories, Magoo48 Jun 2022 #5
i want to see grand juries up and running in case doj goes limp. AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #9
Who is going to convene the grand juries for federal crimes rsdsharp Jun 2022 #16
You know that the DOJ initiates those federal grand juries, right? MineralMan Jun 2022 #17
That would helpful as long as the DOJ doesn't see it as somewhere to pass the buck. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #19
That would be helpful indeed. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #20
if he tries the defense that he believed he had won, barbtries Jun 2022 #6
correct...... Takket Jun 2022 #7
And there at the end that Badass Zoe Lofgren points out that fundraising was likely the motivating vanlassie Jun 2022 #13
They are thoroughly debunking "The Big Lie" witness after witness, evidence by evidence jmbar2 Jun 2022 #8
And the debunking is being done by the Republicans who were around Trump. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #11
And then Zoe comes in with "follow the money" shot jmbar2 Jun 2022 #12
They will continue to believe TFG's lies EmmaLee E Jun 2022 #31
I agree. The committee's focus is rightly on Trump as the instigator, planner, and Martin68 Jun 2022 #10
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #14
TREASON. No doubt of it. PatrickforB Jun 2022 #15
Yes when his campaign manager basically said Tree Lady Jun 2022 #18
Especially when he is in a drunken stupor Captain Zero Jun 2022 #37
No longer care if Tfg is marched off in handcuffs MySideOfTown Jun 2022 #21
or markie Jun 2022 #22
Lol...a death sentence. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #25
And have the walls of every room covered in posters of Hillary, Obama, Biden, and Pelosi. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Jun 2022 #27
Excellent step by step to coup... Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #23
The intent was to make money from the fools that support him...more than $200 million Escurumbele Jun 2022 #24
Totally Agree. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #28
Not to mention the resulting mzmolly Jun 2022 #26
TREASON IS THE REASON YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #29
Consider that Fox was first to declare Biden the winner. LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #32
And all the people who testified to this were REPUBICANS -- many in LMcL's inner circle. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #34
And Rudy canetoad Jun 2022 #36

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
3. From his campaign to his AG, evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Trump was committed to defrauding
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jun 2022

The People.

Stepien testifies that Trump rejected Stepien's Team Normal and pushed forward Giuliani's Team Crazy.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
4. The format proved itself to be effective following the Thursday night hearing.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jun 2022

What was disclosed dominated the news cycle for days afterward. The committee is setting the agenda for discussions of what really caused the 1/6 seditious riot.

It’s quite brilliant, actually.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
35. It's quite brilliant, indeed!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:37 AM
Jun 2022

Time lines of events laid out clearly, decisions made at the time out in the open.
Laws broken, Trump's Pledge of Allegiance and the Constitution swept aside.

All choreographed over a season of J6 exciting episodes.

So clear in fact, anyone watching will have no doubt about what happened, and why.

And, most importantly, where the centre of the insane volcano-coup was, and still is.
The source of all evil clearly identified, as is the supporting cast of equally evil henchmen.

In less polite times, the legally appointed executioner would be sharpening his axe even as we speak.
Or Mme Guillotine brought out and checked for functionality.

Magoo48

(4,709 posts)
5. Let's hope the entire team at the DOJ is ready for aggressive, hard fought, courageous victories,
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jun 2022

victories for our common welfare, for moral, to build confidence, and to strengthen our Democracy. To succeed, the DOJ must charge hard, if not, the whole thing fades to…?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
17. You know that the DOJ initiates those federal grand juries, right?
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022

Nobody else can, actually. So, maybe you're looking in the wrong place.

Takket

(21,564 posts)
7. correct......
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jun 2022

he could reasonably expect to defend himself by saying "well, i was told about all this fraud, if those people lied to me, or were just stupid, that's not my fault"

but they are proving he KNEW it was a lie, and that is needed as part of his conspiracy to mount a coup. That he KNEW he was lying and using those lies to whip his supporters up to attack the capital.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
13. And there at the end that Badass Zoe Lofgren points out that fundraising was likely the motivating
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jun 2022

influence for Trump to be deaf. He’s a fucking grifter, once and forever.

jmbar2

(4,878 posts)
8. They are thoroughly debunking "The Big Lie" witness after witness, evidence by evidence
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jun 2022

Debunking will be the main news of the day. Hopefully it will be convincing to some MAGAts.


Very smart.

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
11. And the debunking is being done by the Republicans who were around Trump.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

I don’t know how MAGATS will continue to believe Trump’s lies, but I’m sure they’ll find ezcuses.

jmbar2

(4,878 posts)
12. And then Zoe comes in with "follow the money" shot
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

That he was using it to grift money. If I recall correctly, one of the beneficiaries of the grift was an organization associated with Ginni Thomas.

EmmaLee E

(170 posts)
31. They will continue to believe TFG's lies
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 04:07 PM
Jun 2022

Because they don't know these other people. And TFG calls them "losers"

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
10. I agree. The committee's focus is rightly on Trump as the instigator, planner, and
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

insurrectionist-in-chief of the coup. He couldn't have done it alone, but he was at the center at all times.

Tree Lady

(11,457 posts)
18. Yes when his campaign manager basically said
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022

to give it up is when he put in Giullani in to lie about winning. And we all know Guillani is willing to lie for Trump about anything.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
37. Especially when he is in a drunken stupor
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:11 AM
Jun 2022

I predict Rudy will be checking in somewhere soon to dry out. I'd put cold hard cash on it.

MySideOfTown

(225 posts)
21. No longer care if Tfg is marched off in handcuffs
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

A straight jacket and being marched off to a mental hospital, where he spends his remaining days would suffice.

Bluethroughu

(5,165 posts)
23. Excellent step by step to coup...
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jun 2022

But it wasn't just Trump and Ghouliani, all the Congressional members that failed to vote on the certification should be 14th Amendmented, thrown out of office and prevented forever from serving ANY public office.

They knew then as they know now, he lost. They are now subverting our Country's law and order by continuing this Seditious Conspiracy.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
24. The intent was to make money from the fools that support him...more than $200 million
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jun 2022

Its insane. What makes me upset is the talking heads, mostly Andrea Mitchell insisting that will be very difficult to prove intent, in my opinion they proved that last Thursday and corroborated it today.

Even the crazies who stormed that Capitol understand that trump SENT them there.

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