Watching the CNN team finally getting this - the hypocrisy. It's clear that the big lie IS a big lie

[NewHendoLib]

YET big money is still being grifted on it by politicians who are using it to keep sucking from the cult that was created by - of course - the big lie - and the big lie came from the biggest liar of all. There are still over 100 repuke pols who will continue to push the big lie. Stepien - team normal, he says - is working to have his candidate unseat Liz Cheney! You can't make this stuff up!

I don't know whether to feel sorry for the grifted cult who have clearly been brainwashed - or to continue to be incredulous at their continued ignorance.

Can the media stay focused on this and stop playing "both sides do it", I wonder? Clearly only ONE side does it - did it - and is still doing it.

[sop]

1. The 1/6 Hearings finally put the Big Lie out of its misery.

[kwijybo]

5. I've been making very similar arguments with RWNJ's since the election

And they still won't get it.

[calimary]

12. And that's exactly it. The WON'T get it.

It's not that they CAN'T get it. They WON'T. They don't want to. They'll just keep on refusing delivery.

I imagine over the next week or so, with more hearings, and Pox Noise even caving and airing this one today (Monday 6/13/22), the hearings will be increasingly unavoidable.

I wish they were all in prime time, but I just heard on the air that the Watergate hearings weren't on in prime time, and MAN did they ever pack a bunch, ANYWAY. And at a time when all we had were three main TV networks, and network news on once a day during the dinner hour. And EVERYBODY knew about the Watergate hearings and had at least seen clips.

Well, NOW, we have umpteen news and "news" networks, and cable, and affiliates all over everywhere showing clips and reruns and talking head commentary up the ying yang. It will be unavoidable. Whether long-form or short soundbites. Wonder if Pox Noise will air the rest of the hearings since they caved, today. It'd be good to reach THAT audience, too.

This is gonna seep out, whether it's wanted and taken seriously or not. Whether minds are open or closed. They're STILL gonna hear about it, and read about it, and maybe even finally break down and sneak a peek. After all, this was only the second hearing. I think there are five more.

[kwijybo]

14. The Watergate hearings were my introduction to politics

I'd come home from school, ask Mom what lies the Republicans tried to tell so far, and sit down to watch them.

They interrupted her Soap Operas, and my afternoon cartoons (I was 10).

[calimary]

22. Welcome to DU, kwijybo!

Yep, watched it, too. Wasn't quite sure WHAT I was watching, but my curiosity was certainly aroused. It was MOST instructive.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

16. The Big Lie was destroyed by the Watergate hearings, this is another example of that happening,

in real time.

[calimary]

19. One can hope, anyway. The best news was - Pox Noise gave in, for one reason or other,

and aired it this morning, as I've read.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/13/fox-news-airing-january-6-hearings

Btw - just out of curiosity, I looked to see what Pox did. They also wrote up what looked like a brief summary around the top of the hour. No word, though, on whether they'll carry the next hearing(s) - at least not yet, as of a little after 2pm, pacific time on Monday the 13th. I'll check.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/jan-6-committee-hearings-news-schedule


I'm hoping they'll air it on other days, too.

The word WILL get out. Even if only in pieces. And it WILL raise more questions. Hopefully opening a few more eyes and minds at the same time.

[erronis]

6. doubt it. the cons work again and again. generation of stupids after generations.

Plus we have this old confirmation and selection bias. They've chosen something and they'll stick with until their dying days.

[spooky3]

10. Also, "escalation of commitment" to a bad decision nt

[ShazzieB]

17. Yes!

Because "sunk cost" fallacy!

[captain queeg]

2. I think a lot of the pols and talking heads are well aware it's a lie, but will get them votes and

money. It’s hard for me to imagine someone that dishonest; they all say it with a straight face. There are a few like my pillow guy who actually believe it, but even TFG doesn’t really believe it.

[calimary]

23. I guess some of 'em are just in touch with their inner whores.

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Maybe that's it. They can be bought, and they have been. The very fact that they're tiptoeing around because they mainly want to be reelected speaks volumes. They'd rather do what benefits them than what is in the best interests of the country and their constituents. What's best for what we say we are as Americans, and what we say America is. They'd rather do what profits them than follow the truth.

Seems to me that's all you really need to know about that bunch. If their #1 priority is getting reelected, and that's what governs all their moves, then they're in it for themselves first, and the people second. Or later. If possible (or convenient). Maybe.

Amazing that only Cheney and Kinzinger are in it for the country, and for honesty, and for democracy. At least that's what their behavior on this issue shows. And one of 'em won't be back next term (Kinzinger). The other, I understand, is facing a challenge engineered by BILL STEPIEN! Of all people. Whose mug we saw on TV during this morning's hearing in recorded interviews because he's with his wife who's going through labor (he claims, anyway). Evidently, Bill Stepien is heading the campaign of Cheney's Republican challenger in Wyoming*.

*I looked it up. From the "well, how 'bout that?!" department!

Ex-Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien will no longer appear before January 6 committee Monday
By Kaitlan Collins, Manu Raju, Jamie Gangel and Kate Sullivan, CNN
Updated 10:32 AM ET, Mon June 13, 2022
... Stepien is currently advising the campaign of Trump-endorsed Harriet Hageman, who is challenging Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming in the state's GOP primary. Cheney is a vocal Trump critic who voted to impeach him and is the vice chairwoman of the January 6 committee. Stepien's firm has received more than $190,000 from Hageman's campaign this election cycle for strategy and fundraising consulting and video production, according to federal election filings.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/13/politics/bill-stepien-not-testifying-january-6/index.html

[NoMoreRepugs]

3. Power is a drug that is hard to resist for some.

[Probatim]

4. Will CNN (or any media outlet) ever recognize the breadth of this?

This wasn't TFG and his closest buds trying to overturn the election and lying about the big lie. This was a coordinated effort across multiple states - and likely hundreds of actors.

Will they show us how many states had alternate electors on stand by? Ready to step up if votes weren't certified?

Will they ever show the individuals who were responsible in each of those states? I'm 99% certain Mastriano was leading Camp Treason in PA - but who else was involved?

This is some pretty scary stuff and these hearings should be held in several states as well.

[erronis]

7. There'll be a ton of new books coming out about this. Problem: the deplorables don't read.

[MontanaMama]

8. They don't and a lot of them can't read.

This is being discussed in another thread. I think it is a contributing factor in becoming a MAGAt.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216795847

[Raster]

9. Glad #FoxLite had their "epiphany"...

... However, I suspect #FoxLite will continue to excel at their #bothsidesism reporting.

[wryter2000]

11. Stepien describing his varied experience on campaigns

"Trump, Bush, McCain." Real diversity there.

[stollen]

13. After his wife gives birth, will he be asked to return?

[Arazi]

18. He's helping perpetuate the Big Lie right now

He’s working for Liz Cheney’s opponent, to destroy Cheney’s career because she decided to stand in opposition.

He’s a slime bucket. Of course he’ll be welcomed back

[wryter2000]

20. I have no idea

Maybe someone else here will know.

[SheltieLover]

15. Yup. One side. Grifting is the only reason qpukes want go be in public service

[Jedi Guy]

21. I'm not sure I understand the criticism of CNN based on my experience of their reporting.

I mainly read CNN in the morning before work, and they've consistently called out the Big Lie for ages using those precise words, and not just in editorials or opinion pieces. Say what you will about Chris Cillizza, but he regularly does analysis pieces that systematically dismantle the most recent dispatches from Trumpworld, including taking Trump's exact statements, dissecting them, and instead presenting the truth, usually while relentlessly mocking Trump in the bargain.

I also haven't seen any reporting from CNN that comes anywhere near "both sides do it" with regard to... well, anything Trump did or tried to do, up to and including 1/6/21.

So I guess I'm just not seeing what you're seeing or I'm not understanding your criticism of CNN.