So if Trump is indicted, where do you find a jury to convict him?

[Cyrano]

If he's finally dragged into a courtroom, how do you seat 12 people who would find him guilty of anything?

How do you seat a jury without at least one or more MAGAs slipping through? And that means a hung jury.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I really find it hard to believe that the seditious, miserable prick will ever spend a day in jail.

[Irish_Dem]

1. That is the problem. The jury pool is tainted.

[Grins]

31. They had no trouble indicting and convicting Roger Stone.

A grand jury AND a trial jury. Let’s not go “tainted” before there are even charges.

[Irish_Dem]

33. Stone is not a former president.

The jury finding for a former president is a legitimate topic of discussion.

Americans have been subjected to relentless and ruthless GOP propaganda for decades.

[brooklynite]

32. As tainted as the Derek Chauvin trial?

How many of the Jan 6 dependent juries have been tainted? Perhaps because prosecutors know how to do their jobs?

I wish people wouldn’t leap to quick assumptions about how trials will work.

[Cyrano]

35. No former president has been tried as a criminal

No former president has become a cult leader.

No former president has ever turned lying into an art form.

This is different.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. The questioning by the lawyers will have to laser focus on the crime

not their political views or feelings about the person charged.

It could be done.

[Ocelot II]

3. Washington, D.C.

TFG would want a change of venue - not sure if he'd get it. That's tough to get in any case with national attention. Or he could waive a jury trial.

[Bev54]

37. Yep, I don't think he would waive a jury trial, he would try to taint the jury.

Judges are too smart, unless he can pay one off.

[MontanaMama]

4. Had this same conversation

at the breakfast table this morning. I don't think a jury can be found that will convict him.

[SoonerPride]

7. +1

[TreasonousBastard]

5. Why not a bench trial? Just a judge who doesn't speak bullshit.

[Novara]

15. Exactly. Or a panel of judges.

And who is to say they wouldn't offer him a lessened sentence for cooperating? Agree not to even run for dogcatcher, stay the fuck out of politics.

[TreasonousBastard]

22. Offer him anything, but if I never hear his name again, I'm in.

[Novara]

23. as much as I want to see him in prison,

I'll settle for the state cases taking every single thing he has (though it sounds like most of it is debt), and him never, ever being in politics ever again. Oh, and no TV or media outlet could ever hire him for anything.

Wait. Maybe I'd rather see him in prison. No TV, no social media, no money. Yeah. Prison.

[TreasonousBastard]

25. Prison would be cool for a lot of reasons, but I stiil think never..

hearing his voice or seeing his noxious body would be both the greatest punishment for him and greatest relief for me

[Novara]

27. Maybe he'll run away to Saudi Arabia and hold glowing balls for the rest of his miserable life

A girl can dream.

[TreasonousBastard]

29. I'd rather see him in Hanoi, if they'd still have the loser.

On edit-- shit. I meant Pyongyang. See how the mind drizzles away.

[SoonerPride]

6. I have asked this exact question a dozen times. No one ever has an answer.

It is impossible to empanel a jury to judge trump.

And for that reason among many I think Garland et al will opt not to prosecute despite the mountain of evidence against him.

Our best hope is that the motherfucker dies.

And soon.

[MyOwnPeace]

28. Now, now..........

we were critical this weekend when Bimbo Boebert prayed that President Biden would be 'short on days' - let's do the same for IQ45 - respect his right to live - but where?

I'm thinking Leavenworth.........

[pwb]

8. Puke numbers are not that big. They are a

small percentage of voters, and a smaller percentage of the population. I think we can take him down a peg. Take him off the scene at least.

[fightforfreedom]

9. I think they can find twelve people out of millions who would do their duty.

For some people everything is hopeless. Nothing will happen, Garland will do nothing, Trump will never be indicted and even if he is indicted no jury would convict him. It's depressing. Go have a drink.

[Timewas]

10. The important thing

He needs to be charged and tried regardless of an anticipated outcome. That is one of the more important things we face right now. If he is tried and acquitted then at least we tried, if we just say fuck it then the rule of law is meaningless...

[Novara]

18. +1

[waterwatcher123]

11. Give Him a One Way Ticket to North Korea Instead of a Trial (He Adores Kim Jong-un).

[Raven]

12. There are people who don't follow this, believe it or not! The guy

painting my house right now, for one, and I personally know others. They will seat a jury in DC.

[Scrivener7]

13. I don't disagree, but take a moment to appreciate what IS happening, pretty definitely.

I don't think he can get elected after this. I really don't. And that is a huge relief.

Of course I want to see more, but I won't get my hopes up.

[Cyrano]

14. I'm not so sure he can't get elected again

given the madhouse that America has become.

[Scrivener7]

17. As I discussed with Sooner Pride in another thread, in a month we'll have the new

polling to see if this has changed anyone's mind. We'll know before summer is over.

[Novara]

19. As long as state level republicans are fucking their voting procedures and systems, he could win.

[Atticus]

16. This amounts to "Trump can never be convicted because everyone knows he's guilty!" I just

refuse to believe we are THAT morally bankrupt.

[Sogo]

20. I volunteer....I'll convict him!

[lees1975]

21. I'll serve and I promise to be impartial.

Really. I'm not lying.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Voir Dire Would Be Lengthy

Geez, it took 2 hours for the jury i was on in March 2020.
If it takes a month, it takes a month. Maybe more.

[sarisataka]

26. Wouldn't the goal be to find

An impartial jury? Or is that too quaint?

Just sayin'

[WarGamer]

36. So... people who know nothing about Trump?

People with no opinion of Trump, good or bad?

That has to be a small number... although I agree with you in principle!!

[walkingman]

30. I've watched both of the J6 hearings and it is a confirmation of what we all

know. The evidence is overwhelming. I hear people say that if TFG believed he was right regardless of what everyone around him told him then all the evidence would just be circumstantial. I do believe in the rule of law but it is hard to stomach someone as nasty and evil as TFG continually get away with his constant lies.

I hate to be cynical but I seriously doubt that anything will happen to him. The political class seems to have special privileges different from us normal mortals.

I don't see anything changing and to me it is just a reflection of our screwed up society. I've never lived anywhere but the US so I can't really judge but I've not been that impressed with America for a long time. Maybe because as a liberal person my beliefs have always been in the minority and I suspect it will always be that way.

I've haven't given up but I am realistic - US culture focuses on four principles - fame, fortune, power, and success (whatever that means). To me that creates a constant conflict mainly based upon ENVY. I hope the masses can overcome these seemingly constant problems.

In closing....EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE FUCKED UP!

And NO - McConaughey the gun deal is a nothing burger that serves as a political escape route - nothing more.

[WarGamer]

34. You can't exclude those who voted for Trump... could be 6 Trumpists.

[Emile]

38. Washington DC

[iemanja]

39. I'll volunteer!

[Septua]

40. Polls are favoring 'lock him up'

That would improve the odds of getting 12 people who believe in accountability and justice. I would think a prosecutor would use some of what we're seeing in the hearings, which has been very convincing. 'Intent' seems proven.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/448158-poll-nearly-70-percent-of-americans-say-sitting-president-should-be/

[Septua]

41. Maybe not

"Intent seems proven."

Heard a lawyer last night say he doesn't think so.