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The more smoking gun evidence presented, the more some people say nothing will happen. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jun 2022 OP
The more things stay the same the more things stay the same SoonerPride Jun 2022 #1
+100. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #2
Same here. Waste of energy. Who cares what they say. we can do it Jun 2022 #3
The more evidence is made public, the more the public understands what prosecutors already RockRaven Jun 2022 #4
Your post is extraordinarily, factually wrong. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #8
I understand the issue.... FarPoint Jun 2022 #5
I see no repercussions coming Moostache Jun 2022 #10
I think the people in Trumps inner circle are in big trouble. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #11
Me too..... FarPoint Jun 2022 #13
That's because the "evidence" isn't being "presented" to anyone who can or will do anything about it PSPS Jun 2022 #6
Just think of all the enjoyment you are getting chiding the naysayers. CentralMass Jun 2022 #7
And He Hasn't Even Shot Anyone On 5th Avenue Yet SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #9
Are you sure it is "more" or maybe they simply aren't convinced... Caliman73 Jun 2022 #12
I agree LeftInTX Jun 2022 #14
Good post, except what's to "condone"? There is no need to condone anything just because Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #17
My theory: They are actually Trump fans. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #15
My theory: different people have different opinions and fighting about this is as dumb as Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #18
Stir, stir, stir. Cause that shit's not going to stir itself. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #16

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
4. The more evidence is made public, the more the public understands what prosecutors already
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jun 2022

know, or have known for up to ~18 months, without anything happening so far. So yeah, they do say that, on the basis that past behavior indicates future behavior. It's not hard to understand why.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
5. I understand the issue....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jun 2022

What do you think overall? Do you have any feel for what will be the next phase after the 1/6 Hearings?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
10. I see no repercussions coming
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:48 PM
Jun 2022

This whole tragic episode is like Chinese fingercuffs...

The more evidence shown (pulling tighter on them), the less people who already disbelieve (harder to get free) are changeable minds.

There are millions of MAGAts who will never budge even if Jesus himself told them about it.

It will be an attack line in 2024...that's about it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. I think the people in Trumps inner circle are in big trouble.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:55 PM
Jun 2022

I believe many of them will be indicted and I don't know when. I have a feeling it's going to take years for this mess to be resolved in our courts of law.

I believe Garland will follow the law, the evidence. In the end he will have to make a historic decision when it comes to Trump.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
13. Me too.....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:16 PM
Jun 2022

I am ready now but for indictments, but I do not know all the information and variables....I see it all being a mega deal with all the upper tRumpers going to be held accountable...


Ohhhhh we all have suffered....

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
6. That's because the "evidence" isn't being "presented" to anyone who can or will do anything about it
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jun 2022

Garland "says" he's "paying attention," but he seems to prefer ignoring criminal referrals especially those involving republican politicians.


Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
12. Are you sure it is "more" or maybe they simply aren't convinced...
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jun 2022

that anything will happen no matter how much evidence is presented?


If you watch Beau of the Fifth Column, he usually gives a pretty good take on these situations. He stated that referral to the DOJ will most likely follow the polls and prosecution will most likely do the same. That seems reasonable.

If the evidence presented does not create a big enough buzz among the people about Trump's guilt and the need for accountability, then referring to the DOJ will seem strictly partisan and might blow up in the Democrats' face.

Maybe the history of lack of prosecution for acts that have seemed illegal make people think that this will not amount to anything. Remember that while Nixon was forced to resign, he was blanket pardoned by Ford AND there was no Fox News at the time. I imagine Watergate may have played out differently if there was a whole right wing propaganda system the way there is now.

Reagan broke multiple laws, very clearly by negotiating with Iran in the run up to the 1980 election, illegally selling weapons to a state sponsor of terrorism (Iran again), and then selling weapons to and training right wing death squads in Central America. Bill Barr was part of that cover up when Bush Sr. Pardoned all the conspirators and closed the loop on Iran-Contra. Bill Barr became Attorney General AGAIN after that fiasco.

So, again, not that I am condoning it, but maybe people are a bit jaded about "justice" coming for Trump based on our history. Not MORE, but just kind of the same holding pattern.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
14. I agree
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:23 PM
Jun 2022

The DOJ usually goes after the low hanging fruit anyway.

Trump pardoned many of them, so I don't know how this works.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
17. Good post, except what's to "condone"? There is no need to condone anything just because
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jun 2022

someone holds a different opinion from you.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
18. My theory: different people have different opinions and fighting about this is as dumb as
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jun 2022

a box of rocks. But, shame on us, there are shit stirring trolls who seem to be here for the purpose of making us fight about it, and we keep falling for it.

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