A fun thought about Giuliani

[PJMcK]

Ever since Giuliani started making public pronouncements about the Big Lie, we've seen him in cringe-worthy and embarrassing moments. For example, when his hair dye ran down the sides of his face, it made him look more ghoulish than ever before. Or his ridiculous performance at the Four Seasons Landscaping business which is next door to an adult erotica store. (You just now that he originally thought it was going to be the Four Seasons hotel!) There are so many of these self-inflicted wounds to his public persona that it's hard to choose my favorites.

But now we have sworn testimony to what I've believed for a long time.

Giuliani is a drunk.

And now the fun part. This nugget is all over the media. Many YouTubers have posted clips and commentaries about it. Panel discussions on cable TV have all spoken about a drunk lawyer advising Trump. News reports from across the ideological spectrum have dissected the testimony. It'll probably be featured in Tuesday's newspapers.

With this kind of coverage, Giuliani is being crushed and I love it. He was a shitty mayor who tried to extend his own second term even though he was term-limited. He repeatedly lied about the 2020 election damaging the public's faith in our political system. He brazenly lied about nearly everything he said. Perhaps that's one reason Trump brought him aboard.

Anyway, if this puts another nail in Giuliani's political coffin, I'm thrilled.

ETA: The late night talk shows are having a field day! Kimmel is great.

[wyn borkins]

1. As To Rudy

Now I cannot disagree with anything you stated; however, I would NOT like to see IQ45 get out of any form of punishment because of what folks thought of Rudy, or what they figured that Rudy had caused IQ45 (to do).

It may be true that he (Rudy) is not always entirely sober, but I would rather see a legal test of his sobriety by way of some medical device or a hospital blood analysis before casting him as other than completely sober. He may well have other mental issues that present in the same manner as too much alcohol.

Me-thinks the media is (currently) making the 'Big Lie' appear as tied to Rudy, when it is more likely than not - directly the (obvious) intent of IQ45.

[Tetrachloride]

7. It surely would seem that TFG would not want to be humiliated with a widely

publicized exam.

[PJMcK]

12. Both of them plus others

This is what makes Trump's efforts a conspiracy. They met to make a plot nd then they all took actions to further that plot.

It's the very definition of a conspiracy and Trump is at the apex of it.

[Haggard Celine]

2. The only thing about that is,

he's highly likely to be the Trump fall guy. To see Rudy punished in place of Trump as a sacrificial lamb really makes me feel cold. Everything Trump touches, dies though, so you really can't be surprised by this. It's just to see such a thoroughly awful person, in just about any way you want to name, never pay any consequences for his horrible life, you just get a little older and more cynical than you were before.

[canetoad]

3. Low hanging fruiit

But Rudy is officially a drunk laughing stock. Everyone knew that anyway.

[PJMcK]

13. Please see my response #12 above (n/t)

[NCLefty]

4. OMG don't bother him. He's only on his fifth drink of the day and it's 3:20 AM!

He'll be ready for the press conference at the dildo shop when he's fully lubricated.

[NJCher]

5. I don't see Rudy as the fall guy

I think the J6 Committee has done a careful connection between trump and the storming of the Capitol. That is why on the first hearing they played the clip of trump promising to walk with the rioters. That was played by the Committee and also by the news and political shows: over and over and over.

Au contraire, the numerous witnesses/former advisers today were discarded by trump in favor of the views of a drunk! There is a deliberate turning away from hearing bad news from people like stepien to those like the crazy lady lawyer and Guiliani. Their point in drawing this line is very clear: trump had the knowledge that he lost but he chose to walk away from it.

Oh, I’ll bet trump thought he was oh so clever when that 250 million in small donations came in. As was revealed today, however, there are no records showing that this money was spent for its stated purpose. This makes it yet another serious crime by the sweaty flim flam man.

[NJCher]

6. Now checking out Kimmel

Be sure to see Rhiannon’s Colbert thread!

[Aussie105]

8. A smart man will know

when he has outlived his usefulness and time in the Sun, and step aside gracefully and be thought of well for the rest of his life.

A less intelligent person will keep pushing himself to the fore well past his time to move out of the limelight, and come across as needy, desperate, and destroy any positive reputation he established earlier.

Where would you put:
Hillary.
Obama.
Trump.
Giuliani?

(Rhetorical question, really)

Of course, there are those who never had their time in the Sun, but pretend the limelight shone bright on them some undisclosed time in the past.
Whats-his-name of Cancun fame, for instance.

(Yes. Mixing metaphors. Tell someone who cares!)

[Crowman2009]

9. Some Marines in my unit from the Bronx have always thought he was a POS.

And this was before 9/11.

[smb]

10. I Have A Mental Image Of A Documentary

The opening scene would be the clip of him being punked by Borat, leading up to a freeze-frame closeup of him with his hand down his pants over which the narrator would intone, "Remember when this was the most embarrassing moment of Rudy Guiliani's life?"

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Anyone who has followed him for decades

know about his multiple divorce dramas, so it is unsurprising that he would become a lush.

https://apnews.com/article/287ed8192a26450a031d81e2b9647986

Oh and as a side note, if anyone was wondering where the idea of the removal of boxes of "official documents" at the end of an administration came from, take a look at this from 15 years ago -

Giuliani's Mayoralty Shrouded In Secrecy

December 20, 2007 / 5:37 PM / CBS/AP

When a mayor of New York leaves office, little goes out the door but memories - unless he's Rudy Giuliani.

Government rules discourage the city's most powerful officeholder from departing with more than token gifts collected on the job. Ed Koch, mayor from 1978 to 1989, recalls keeping some neckties. His successor, David Dinkins, walked away with knickknacks from his desk, including a crystal tennis ball and a collection of photographs documenting his meetings with celebrities and business icons. When Giuliani stepped down, he needed a warehouse.

Under an unprecedented agreement that didn't become public until after he left office, Giuliani secreted out of City Hall the written, photographic and electronic record of his eight years in office - more than 2,000 boxes.

Along with his own files, the trove included the official records of Giuliani's deputy mayors, his chief of staff, his travel office and Gracie Mansion - the mayor's residence that became a legal battlefront during his caustic divorce.

(snip)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/giulianis-mayoralty-shrouded-in-secrecy/

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

[Chainfire]

14. As a recovering alcoholic, (20 years dry) I sincerely have some sympathy for the man.

He needs help. Hopefully he can get help and dry out in prison. We don't forgive alcoholics that kill people while driving, we shouldn't forgive them for seditious conspiracy. Rudy is a bad man, drunk or sober.