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ancianita

(36,023 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:02 PM Jun 2022

Criminal referrals? No worries.

Let's be clear. The Department of Justice never needs criminal referrals from any committee to pursue prosecution. Ever. Every line of the hearings is being heard by Main Justice.

There is no reason to judge the Jan 6 Committee for making or not making criminal referrals to the DOJ. No reason to be concerned. At all.

Personally, I'd prefer that the Jan 6 Committee give voice from the House and The People and send criminal referrals to the DOJ. But whether they do or not, the facts, merits, and arguments of the case are more than sufficient to prove multiple counts of loss, harm, and damage to the People of the United States per 5 federal laws:

18 USC 2384 -- seditious conspiracy -- If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both

18 USC 2383 -- insurrection

18 USC 371 -- conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

18 USC 1505 -- Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees -- Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress

18 USC 1343 -- Fraud by wire, radio, or television -- any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice



No one is above the law.



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Criminal referrals? No worries. (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2022 OP
DOJ Expects Transcripts from the 1,000 J6 Committee witnesses (in September) Justice matters. Jun 2022 #1
Right. Thanks for your post. ancianita Jun 2022 #2

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
1. DOJ Expects Transcripts from the 1,000 J6 Committee witnesses (in September)
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:43 PM
Jun 2022
DOJ lawyers expect transcripts from the 1,000 January 6 committee witnesses to be made public in September

Business Insider link: https://www.businessinsider.com/january-6-committee-transcripts-witnesses-doj-investigation-2022-6

So that would be around the time the committee could finalize its report.

The DOJ lawyers want to compare them to their own interrogations to make sure nobody will perjure themselves under oath? Not impossible.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
2. Right. Thanks for your post.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:55 PM
Jun 2022

IIRC, the DOJ asked for documents a few weeks ago, so it will happen.

Of course the DOJ will get anything it needs form the Jan 6 as soon as they've completed their report.

It can certainly get copies of witness testimony or anything else in advance, for that matter, just as a matter of recordkeeping for such a large scale case building. In the course of actual prosecution they can then get the originals.

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