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Is Stepien's wife working on breaking the record for the longest labor, ever... (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
Perhaps the actual birth, while a matter of public record, isn't newsworthy... brooklynite Jun 2022 #1
Conspiracy theory? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #4
Josh Marshall of TPM.com also found the timing suspicious Bucky Jun 2022 #35
Thank you for your point of view and info. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #38
I'm calling it a "nothing burger" MissMillie Jun 2022 #9
Except that births are public record. Except for that. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #13
When I had my kid I had two weeks to get his dad's signature on the birth certificate... MissMillie Jun 2022 #17
If it matters that much to you, why don't you look it up yourself? onenote Jun 2022 #21
Public record in the community where the birth occurred Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #34
Do you think Stepien thought the J6 Committe would have delayed the start malaise Jun 2022 #23
I have no idea what he was thinking MissMillie Jun 2022 #25
Who cares? TwilightZone Jun 2022 #2
She may have only been experiencing Braxton Hicks (false contractions) and thus sent back home hlthe2b Jun 2022 #3
The Jan. 6th Committee is five stars. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #6
We have more important fish to fry. Meadowoak Jun 2022 #11
a lot of things can happen eShirl Jun 2022 #5
If it's public record, it's no big deal. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #7
The family posted about the baby shower on Facebook but not the birth malaise Jun 2022 #24
Maybe he has to shut down the GW Bridge again to get there Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #8
I don't get the impression that he's don working behind the scenes. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #14
Who cares...he could have used it to get our of testifying or not...she could have had false Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #10
The preoccupation with this is weird Sympthsical Jun 2022 #12
Is it? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #16
I do not usually spend multiple days preoccupied with another woman's uterus Sympthsical Jun 2022 #18
Agreed. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #19
my 1st took 4 days to get here. mopinko Jun 2022 #15
Probably. They were married April 2021. mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #20
The Committee was prepared for the possibility that he might not be available onenote Jun 2022 #22
It was not malaise Jun 2022 #28
I am completely on your side on this one Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #26
The committee excused him from testifying because of this. AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #29
If this was all bullshit, can Stepien be held in contempt? AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #27
You do realize this isn't a criminal court, right? Sympthsical Jun 2022 #36
So it's okay to lie, if in fact he did lie? AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #37
When I learned the excuse for a "family emergency" was his wife had gone into labor mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #30
My friend's wife recently was in labor for nearly 3 days. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #31
This fucking place. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #32
We went to the hospital three times BettyonRed Jun 2022 #33
My very first labor was 94 hours. usedtobedemgurl Jun 2022 #39
In other news VGNonly Jun 2022 #40

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
1. Perhaps the actual birth, while a matter of public record, isn't newsworthy...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:23 AM
Jun 2022

The Hearing was held; Stepien's evidence was presented.

Thompson, Cheney and other members of the Committee wished them well.

All I see is a reluctance to let go of a conspiracy theory.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
4. Conspiracy theory?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:26 AM
Jun 2022

You're really taking this to extremes. I just read a Huffington post article that claims that the man is still profiting from Trump, and I think his veracity can be ascertained with a simple check to see if his story held up regarding his wife's labor.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
35. Josh Marshall of TPM.com also found the timing suspicious
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:05 AM
Jun 2022

Marshall is no conspiracy theorist. He's very mainstream, very respected in Washington. He's this generation's David Broder. But he too thought it seemed fishy, a little too convenient that Stepien had to skeedaddle at the most public and most important testimony of his life.

My guess is that Stepien isn't exactly a perfect witness, that he might still be throwing out pro-Trump messaging in his testimony, or at least wants to stay less than candid about the anti-Trump facts he's being asked to provide.

Remember that this isn't just a fait accompli presentation of facts. It's still an ongoing investigation of a very active and recalcitrant criminal conspiracy.

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
9. I'm calling it a "nothing burger"
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:50 AM
Jun 2022

I think that the taped testimony was enough, and if it wasn't they can call him back in, or ask him to respond to new questions in writing (as they have suggested may happen the witnesses who did appear publicly).

I don't see the need for any of us to hang on to this "story."

Bigger fish to fry.

We talk about reproductive rights as being an issue of privacy. Let's demonstrate that we believe that sentiment.

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
17. When I had my kid I had two weeks to get his dad's signature on the birth certificate...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jun 2022

...and file it with the city clerk.

Let's not get side-tracked by the shiny object.

On edit: The guy's taped testimony seemed to HELP the Committee. I think arguments that may question his credibility are counter-productive.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
21. If it matters that much to you, why don't you look it up yourself?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:12 AM
Jun 2022

I'm not seeing a widespread clamoring for this information from the public at large.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
34. Public record in the community where the birth occurred
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

My grand daughter was born May 18 in Portland OR, and my son and his wife just received the birth certificate a couple of days ago.

Do you know where Stepien lives? That would be where the birth is recorded.

So, put your tinfoil hat away, at least for a couple of weeks.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
23. Do you think Stepien thought the J6 Committe would have delayed the start
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:17 AM
Jun 2022

so that his taped interview could be shown?
I think the proven liar was trying to sabotage the hearing with a very good lie.
Was the baby born - simple question.

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
25. I have no idea what he was thinking
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jun 2022

and I don't really care.

There are bigger fish to fry and this is, IMHO, a distraction we can do without.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
2. Who cares?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:23 AM
Jun 2022

Is this really the kind of stuff that we think is important?

Considering the death threats some of these people are receiving, it wouldn't surprise me (or bother me, for that matter) if they're trying to retain some semblance of privacy.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
3. She may have only been experiencing Braxton Hicks (false contractions) and thus sent back home
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:24 AM
Jun 2022

to wait. Regardless, I think the 01/06 committee handled it extremely well with their video/audio interviews well interwoven as though he were there.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
24. The family posted about the baby shower on Facebook but not the birth
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:19 AM
Jun 2022

Spare me please. The fucking liar lied.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
8. Maybe he has to shut down the GW Bridge again to get there
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jun 2022

and it's taking a lot longer this time.

(Yes, he's one of the guys who actually did that for Christie.)

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
10. Who cares...he could have used it to get our of testifying or not...she could have had false
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jun 2022

labor...I don't think it matters. The tapes were pretty damn good.

Sympthsical

(9,072 posts)
18. I do not usually spend multiple days preoccupied with another woman's uterus
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jun 2022

But apparently mileage on that one is varying.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
22. The Committee was prepared for the possibility that he might not be available
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:15 AM
Jun 2022

It was no secret that his wife was pregnant and was due the week of the hearing. She posted on FB about her baby shower back on May 1 and indicated there that she had six weeks to go.

I'm willing to bet that the Committee was advised of the possibility that he would be unavailable well in advance and thus was prepared to go forward with the video presentation.

Not that this information will quiet the tin foilers on this thread.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
28. It was not
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:23 AM
Jun 2022

That’s why the start was delayed. You could say they had contingency plans in the event of a withdrawal but it took them 45 minutes to organize.
My bet is that he did not expect this to work.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
26. I am completely on your side on this one
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:22 AM
Jun 2022

The news media reported that Stepien missed the hearing because his wife was in labor.

He doesn't show. The committee scrambled to present his evidence in a different way. They were successful. Yay!

Now, circle back to Mr. Stepien's claim. Was it the truth or was it another Trump administration lie?

I'm betting on the latter. And whether it was consequential in the end or not, it would be just another instance of a Trump official denigrating our institutions.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
29. The committee excused him from testifying because of this.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:26 AM
Jun 2022

That’s what’s infuriating. Stepien may have used his wife and kid for sympathy points to get out of directly answering questions.

Sympthsical

(9,072 posts)
36. You do realize this isn't a criminal court, right?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:21 AM
Jun 2022

Because I'm beginning to wonder if people understand what the hearings are based on this.

Stepian's appearance would be to answer questions he already answered in deposition and that the committee knows the answers to.

The testimony and questions are prepared. That is why they have the deposition video ready to go. The committee said last week that they have contingencies like this in case anyone couldn't appear. It changes nothing to their approach or the kinds of testimony we'll be seeing. It only caused a small delay so they could get the video up and running.

Are people . . . expecting a cross examination or something? That this is a courtroom and there's going to be some relevatory gotcha moment?

That's not what this is. The committee has made no bones that this is not what this is.

I think I'm understanding a bit better why this bizarre obsession with this woman's uterus is happening.

Stepian has dodged nothing. All his answers are right there. Nothing has been withheld by this. They said he might appear later.

I don't get why people can't be normalsauce for just one day.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. So it's okay to lie, if in fact he did lie?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jun 2022

He was supposed to show, gave a reason why he shouldn’t, and was excused for what is looking like a fabrication.

And the “normalsauce” comment was uncalled for.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
30. When I learned the excuse for a "family emergency" was his wife had gone into labor
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:27 AM
Jun 2022

I laughed. Immediately posted that it would probably turn out to be Braxton Hicks contractions (false labor). Great excuse, because who is going to criticize him for wanting to immediately go be with his wife? Posted this at 10:15 am yesterday:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16794399

But I think it was planned. A con from the guy who ran the campaign for the greatest con of the American people in our history.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
31. My friend's wife recently was in labor for nearly 3 days.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

So, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Whatever. The committee appears to believe it was authentic, we got his video testimony which was damning enough, so it's really not an issue at this point.

 

BettyonRed

(40 posts)
33. We went to the hospital three times
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

With false labour. This is a nothing burger and an actual birth doesn’t really prove he didn’t need to be at his wife’s side.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,137 posts)
39. My very first labor was 94 hours.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

Just sayin’. I don’t believe she was in labor, but if she was, maybe she could still be in labor. If still in labor, there would be no birth announcement.

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