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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:36 AM Jun 2022

Man Given Jan. 5 Tour of Capitol Complex Captured Yelling Threats During Riot, Report Says



Man Given Jan. 5 Tour of Capitol Complex Captured Yelling Threats During Riot, Report Says
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The Jan. 6 committee reportedly has footage of the man making threats against lawmakers outside the Capitol while the riot was underway.
Allison Quinn
News Editor
Published Jun. 15, 2022 7:37AM ET


A man who took part in a tour of the U.S. Capitol complex on Jan. 5, 2021, with Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) was reportedly captured on video hurling threats at lawmakers during the insurrectionist riot the next day.

The man, who has not been identified publicly, was outside the Capitol as the attempted insurrection was underway, and he does not appear to have been charged in connection with the events of that day, according to Punchbowl News, which broke the news of the Jan. 6 committee having video of both the man being given a tour, and his alleged threats.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is said to have been among those at the receiving end of his alleged threats. Members of the House select committee investigating the circumstances of the deadly Jan. 6 riot have reportedly been discussing what to do with the footage.

Releasing the footage to the public is said to be among the options under consideration.

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In a January 2021 letter to the U.S. Capitol Police, more than two dozen Democratic lawmakers asked for an “immediate investigation” into “an extremely high number of outside groups” visiting the Capitol complex the day before the riot.

“Members of the group that attacked the Capitol seemed to have an unusually detailed knowledge of the layout of the Capitol Complex,” the letter noted.

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Man Given Jan. 5 Tour of Capitol Complex Captured Yelling Threats During Riot, Report Says (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2022 OP
Important malaise Jun 2022 #1
You would think they would have NAMES (dates, etc.) of individuals touring the Capitol???? Hulk Jun 2022 #26
They may malaise Jun 2022 #29
arrested inside the Capital building? stopdiggin Jun 2022 #34
Interesting that this news is coming out Quakerfriend Jun 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #3
Want to see who hoisted gallow..when was it built, who hauled building RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2022 #7
BTW, why did the Capitol police NOT have additional security on stand-by January 6th 2021? jaxexpat Jun 2022 #9
Excellent questions. barbaraann Jun 2022 #11
K&R 2naSalit Jun 2022 #4
Loudermilk's tour is just the tip of the iceberg Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #5
"Loudermilk's tour" according to Loudermilk was just a family w/kids who were visiting D.C. from ... Botany Jun 2022 #13
And yet one of those tour member was at the riot the next day Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #16
I didn't see any kids in that footage demtenjeep Jun 2022 #27
We are in dagerous times .... 70% of the republican members of the House in Jan., 2021 voted .... Botany Jun 2022 #28
Bring in Loudedrmilk and this J6 suspect. Question them together as to Captain Zero Jun 2022 #14
Interesting, but I don't think that it is wnylib Jun 2022 #6
I read that he left them on their own at one point. Maybe this is when they went through offices onecaliberal Jun 2022 #8
Learning about which? The fact that he wnylib Jun 2022 #12
you're confusing separate things stopdiggin Jun 2022 #35
Hopefully there is a plan for the next attack on the Capitol. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #10
I sure hope that question is not like wnylib Jun 2022 #15
? twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #17
Who do you hope has a plan for the wnylib Jun 2022 #23
The US government. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #31
Do you think there will be another attack? wnylib Jun 2022 #32
I think it is a possibility that should be seriously considered. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #33
The plan (as I see it) is to campaign for electing more Democratic members in Congress Justice matters. Jun 2022 #18
I was thinking more in line with defending the building from Trumpsters. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #20
I think measures to do that will be included in the proposed legislation. Justice matters. Jun 2022 #24
AMEN! Novara Jun 2022 #25
MSNBC breaking J6 releases video SilasSouleII Jun 2022 #19
No, THAT's interesting. It's gonna all come out, now. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #22
See also: Novara Jun 2022 #21
Will the House expel him? Loudermilk! struggle4progress Jun 2022 #30
No collusion though? czarjak Jun 2022 #36
What a coincidence! BobTheSubgenius Jun 2022 #37
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
26. You would think they would have NAMES (dates, etc.) of individuals touring the Capitol????
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jun 2022

Seems a simple task to cross check if any were arrested inside the Capitol Building on January 6th.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
34. arrested inside the Capital building?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 07:47 PM
Jun 2022

I was unaware of this. I thought almost all arrests were performed after that date.

(And it's still not clear to me why a list of Jan 5 'tours' have not been made public - we sure as hell have heard plenty about it ... And yet, maddeningly 'coy' about real details.)

Quakerfriend

(5,442 posts)
2. Interesting that this news is coming out
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:42 AM
Jun 2022

1 day after the MSM is reporting that an investigation of the Loudermilk tour showed nothing nefarious.

Response to Quakerfriend (Reply #2)

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,434 posts)
7. Want to see who hoisted gallow..when was it built, who hauled building
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

..materials in--would need a truck, right? Who gave the order to even build such a thing? Who paid for the material?

I'm sure capitol police has footage of how many people it took to build it, their faces on camera, yet nothing has been reported about that one detail that seemed to just appear at the time ..chant to hang Mike Pence started. Anyway.

jaxexpat

(6,799 posts)
9. BTW, why did the Capitol police NOT have additional security on stand-by January 6th 2021?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jun 2022

They're, like the Secret Service, corrupt already. There were resignations after Jan 6, investigate the retirement venues of these civil servants. Follow the money. Follow THEIR money. It will reveal the identity of those who chose personal gain over their responsibilities, duty and worthless oaths.
Follow it closely enough and you'll find yourself on the same path taken by principled governance nationwide, into the bottomless pit of corruption, lust for power and greed.

barbaraann

(9,143 posts)
11. Excellent questions.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jun 2022

Too bad the media's shadow narrative for today is Joe Biden's age. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT ALLIGATOR BITING YOUR LEG OFF! WHY ISN'T THERE A FROG SITTING ON THAT LILY PAD???

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
5. Loudermilk's tour is just the tip of the iceberg
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:46 AM
Jun 2022

These tours were apparently off the record, not recorded in logs, so the only record would be within the representative’s office or on security camera footage.

If the committee has that, it would definitely “blow the roof off” the house.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
13. "Loudermilk's tour" according to Loudermilk was just a family w/kids who were visiting D.C. from ...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jun 2022

... his district and he threatened to file suit against Rep. Mikie Sherrill for saying the following:

[There were] "members of Congress who had groups coming through the Capitol that I saw on January 5th for reconnaissance for the next day," Sherrill said.

https://www.salon.com/2022/05/19/was-a-capitol-tour-given-by-rep-barry-loudermilk-on-jan-5-a-dress-rehearsal-for-the-insurrection/

BTW There were no tours allowed of the Capitol @ that time because of a C-19 lock down.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
16. And yet one of those tour member was at the riot the next day
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:02 AM
Jun 2022

And numerous reps report multiple tours given in the days before 1/6.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
27. I didn't see any kids in that footage
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jun 2022

did you?


or are 18 and +considered kids for this instance?

Botany

(70,447 posts)
28. We are in dagerous times .... 70% of the republican members of the House in Jan., 2021 voted ....
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jun 2022

.... to over turn the will of American voters and make Trump a dictator and to that end a certain
% of them gave tours of the US Capitol so with in a day or two they could use violence to stop the
Constitutionally mandated transfer of power to the winner of the Presidential election.

Being a Republican and being a good American is now an antithetical act. It got to be 100 degrees
F here yesterday and we lost electric power so I had on a local radio station for information about the
outage and the local and national talk shows were nothing short of outright sedition.

BTW many years ago in N.W. PA in a middle class neighborhood our next door neighbor was the
county D.A. and his brother, Ray Shafer was the Governor of the state. You would never have met
a better man and he was republican too.

Captain Zero

(6,783 posts)
14. Bring in Loudedrmilk and this J6 suspect. Question them together as to
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jun 2022

WHO WERE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT TOUR? What was their names? Did they know they would be back there the next day?

wnylib

(21,339 posts)
6. Interesting, but I don't think that it is
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jun 2022

damning evidence since the video shows him outside of the Capitol building.

It would be damning if it showed him (or any others who took the tour) on the inside, leading people to the right places.

onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)
8. I read that he left them on their own at one point. Maybe this is when they went through offices
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

taking out panic buttons.

Why are we just learning about this now?

wnylib

(21,339 posts)
12. Learning about which? The fact that he
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

left some of them on their own? Or that he gave tours?

The issue of tours was brought up within days of J6. But it took longer to confirm Loudermilk's role.

Or did you mean that the guy in the video was just identified as one of the "tourists" taken on a walk inside the Capitol on J5?

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
35. you're confusing separate things
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

the panic button 'story' is fairly convoluted (and seems to have lost a lot of it's legs) - but to my knowledge it has never been conflated with 'civilian' tours.

wnylib

(21,339 posts)
23. Who do you hope has a plan for the
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:23 AM
Jun 2022

"next attack on the Capitol"?

And what next attack on the Capitol?

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
18. The plan (as I see it) is to campaign for electing more Democratic members in Congress
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jun 2022
for legislation based on the J6 committee recommendations to prevent another insurrection has a chance to pass.

Once that's done, DOJ indictments can come all the way through September 2024.

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
24. I think measures to do that will be included in the proposed legislation.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jun 2022

But voters (especially more millenials and gen Z...) must rush to the polls to vote for more Dems in Congress (more Democratic Senators, in particular...) to make sure saving democracy can PASS...

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
30. Will the House expel him? Loudermilk!
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022

Will the House expel him? Loudermilk!
Well, if the House expels him, we'll all volunteer to tell him!
We'lll cheer whoever fells him: Loudermilk!

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