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Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 03:30 PM Jun 2022

CA neighbors called police 8 times, each time "no disturbance... substantiated" at torture home

Woman Flees Home, Describes Torture, Rape Over 6 Months
Peter McGuire of Chino Hills, Calif., arrested Saturday, is held without bail


Though a sheriff's deputy responded numerous times to a California home where a young woman was held captive and tortured over six months, help remained elusive until she managed to escape on her own Thursday, according to authorities. The 22-year-old woman, who'd unknowingly moved in with a man who would turn out to be the roommate from hell, "had visible injuries consistent with the allegations" that she was physically assaulted and raped when she fled the Chino Hills home of 59-year-old Peter McGuire and alerted bystanders at a park, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department says, per the Los Angeles Times.

"Shortly after moving in, the victim was not allowed to leave and was forcibly held against her will by McGuire," says department rep Mara Rodriguez, per KTLA. While the victim was taken to a hospital, officers descended on McGuire's home but found he had fled. "We heard flash bangs ... the whole garage door, they tore it down ... and they'd gone through the house," a neighbor tells KTLA. Police allegedly found evidence of the crimes at the home, KTTV reports. McGuire was ultimately arrested at a home in Placentia in Orange County on Saturday after a standoff that included a SWAT team. Authorities say the suspect had "barricaded himself in the home and refused to come out," per the Orange County Register.

Held without bail, he pleaded not guilty Monday to torture, kidnapping, kidnapping to commit another crime, mayhem, assault with a deadly weapon, false imprisonment by violence, forcible rape, sodomy by use of force, and forcible oral copulation. The district attorney's office has also filed special allegations of personal infliction of great bodily injury, administering a controlled substance during commission of a sex crime, and infliction of great bodily injury during a sex offense. Rodriguez tells KTLA that neighbors had placed seven or eight calls regarding domestic disturbances at the home since the start of the year but "no disturbance was ever substantiated. The house was quiet and no one answered the door."


https://www.newser.com/story/321783/woman-flees-home-describes-torture-rape-over-6-months.html


Investigators say the victim made her way to nearby Alterra Park where she screamed for help and good Samaritans came to her rescue.

"They were able to basically take her away from the area where she had come to the park and called 911, and stayed with her until deputies and paramedics could get there," Rodriguez said.

Hours after the escape, police caught up with McGuire at a home in Placentia where investigators say he barricaded himself inside.

Early Saturday morning he was taken into custody. He also faces a special allegation of great bodily injury for disfigurement.

"She suffered some severe trauma, a lot of physical injuries, and she is still hospitalized and being treated for those injuries," Rodriguez said.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/chino-hills-kidnap-captive-escape-msguire/2916886/
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CA neighbors called police 8 times, each time "no disturbance... substantiated" at torture home (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2022 OP
I doubt his antisocial Mind can ever be trusted with liberty. Karadeniz Jun 2022 #1
Hope he gets to experience what he did to her dalton99a Jun 2022 #2
really awful. Chino PD needs to do review of their procedures Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #6
10 fold. chowder66 Jun 2022 #7
That piece of shit just needs to die. I don't care how. JanMichael Jun 2022 #18
That poor, poor woman. I hope she gets every bit of care she will need. chowder66 Jun 2022 #3
I think after x numbers of times Karma13612 Jun 2022 #4
a deeper investigation was definitely warranted. How IS someone supposed to get help Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #5
Exactly. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #13
In college house.. Someone made a joke 911..there was.no.turning.back Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #15
Yup--- Karma13612 Jun 2022 #17
That'd probably have to be enacted via the legislature, given the privacy concerns in play. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #11
Absolutely I agree with the concerns you raised. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #14
Wouldn't they be at least a little suspicious wnylib Jun 2022 #21
They might be, but would that suspicion rise to the level of probable cause to seek a warrant? Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #28
In case you were wondering: Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2022 #8
yikes! The look in his eyes. I have to say... he doesn't look age 59. Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #9
Thought the same thing. Never would have guessed him as nearly 60 years old. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #12
Apparently cutting out and eating the tongues of 22-year-olds makes youthful JanMichael Jun 2022 #24
It's a shame she couldn't kill him dalton99a Jun 2022 #10
I wonder how she escaped. wnylib Jun 2022 #22
Wow.... Karma13612 Jun 2022 #16
reminds me of the torture and murder of Junko Furuta in the 80s in Japan IcyPeas Jun 2022 #19
I read a detailed article about that incident. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2022 #25
I am sorry i googled that..so horrible.. Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #26
I guess Uvalde isn't the only town with worthless cops. Hassler Jun 2022 #20
Watch. He will be let go without bond alphafemale Jun 2022 #23
This reminds me of something that happened wnylib Jun 2022 #27
yikes. I hope there was justice Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #29
So do I. I feel guilty for not calling someone, wnylib Jun 2022 #36
A lot of Cops just aren't that smart . How could they not consider that they aren't purposely JI7 Jun 2022 #30
This is my neighbor Bluesaph Jun 2022 #31
But they did recieve mulitple calls for that home so they should have gone in after the 3rd call at JI7 Jun 2022 #32
wow!!! I'd be freaked out too. and second guessing myself Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #34
NOT victim blaming Brenda Jun 2022 #33
she might have felt safer with guy old enough to be her father/grandfather Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #35

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
4. I think after x numbers of times
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

That there is a disturbance reported at the same location, that LE be required to enter the premises to investigate. I’m sorry but this is horrendous.

Of course, now that we know he was holding her against her will, and had disabled her ability to even talk, that explains why it was quiet whenever the answered the calls.

Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
5. a deeper investigation was definitely warranted. How IS someone supposed to get help
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jun 2022

if abuser can just pull the curtains and go silent? Neighbors knew something was wrong...too bad none of them broke in.

Reminds me of the couple who called cops because they suspected something wrong next door. Cops came and left. Couple broke in when cops left.
to to find young kids with dead mom. if they hadn't broken in... kids could have died.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
13. Exactly.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jun 2022

At least in Connecticut where I lived at the time, the police are REQUIRED to make an in-person visit if someone calls 911, even in error. I was trying to figure out which telephone number to dial (this was 20 years ago!), to simply get telephone information. I kept dialing all different combos ending in 11. I must have accidentally dialed 911. I hung up. Got a call back from 911 asking if I was OK. I said sure, I just made a mistake in dialing. They said that they still needed to make a house call.

Wow, so this victim spent MONTHS of her life being systematically tortured and the police just figured all these disturbance calls were not worth following up?

Frightening as hell.

Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
15. In college house.. Someone made a joke 911..there was.no.turning.back
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jun 2022

Everyone in house had to come diwnstairs and present before police

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
17. Yup---
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:14 PM
Jun 2022

At least they knew in my case it was the mistake of a grown mature woman who was just a bit confused. I was relieved they didn’t fine or ticket me!

And I was glad they took those precautions.

My gosh, I still can’t get this horrific story out of my head. And now we have a picture of the broken human who perpetrated the violence. He looks a tiny bit like a friend of mine who just lost his son to suicide a few months back. Heart breaking.




Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
11. That'd probably have to be enacted via the legislature, given the privacy concerns in play.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:58 PM
Jun 2022

The only way the cops could've entered the home would have been to get a warrant, since none of the exceptions to that requirement allowed them to make entry without one. I'd be curious to see whether a judge would issue a warrant based on multiple reports of domestic violence from neighbors but no actual evidence of CDV beyond that. I imagine it'd depend a lot on exactly what the neighbors reported. If the reports were just people yelling/arguing, that's one thing. If the reports indicate screaming for help and similar, that's different.

Your suggestion is a good one, though. Perhaps after three reports of CDV from neighbors, law enforcement must request a warrant (or even a sneak and peek warrant) and then go in whether someone answers the door or not. Even if no one's home at the time, they may well find enough evidence to indicate that CDV is taking place and then go from there.

I'm sure some would push back hard on that on privacy grounds, but in the interests of protecting victims of CDV, it's a conversation worth having at the very least.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
21. Wouldn't they be at least a little suspicious
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jun 2022

after the 3rd or 4th call? Based on repeated calls, it seems like they could have staked out the house to watch or listen for something suspicious.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
28. They might be, but would that suspicion rise to the level of probable cause to seek a warrant?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:48 PM
Jun 2022

The linked articles say the neighbors reported "disturbances," which is incredibly vague. Given the privacy concerns involved, a judge would be unlikely to authorize a search warrant without more to go on, and the fact that the house was repeatedly quiet when officers were onsite would weigh against it. If the officers themselves had heard the disturbance, that might be different depending on exactly what they heard. If they'd heard obvious violence and/or screams for help, then it becomes exigent circumstances and no warrant is required.

As for staking out the house, in a perfect world that might be an option. The unfortunate reality is that, given the number of calls they're likely getting in an average day, they don't have the manpower to have at least two officers post up outside a house where something might be happening.

IcyPeas

(21,858 posts)
19. reminds me of the torture and murder of Junko Furuta in the 80s in Japan
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:26 PM
Jun 2022

from wiki:

Junko Furuta (古田 順子, Furuta Junko) was a Japanese high school student who was abducted, raped, tortured and murdered in the late 1980s. Her murder case was called the "concrete-encased high school girl murder case" , due to her body being discovered in a concrete drum. The abuse was mainly perpetrated by four teenage boys, Hiroshi Miyano, Jō Ogura, Shinji Minato, and Yasushi Watanabe, over a period of 40 days from 25 November 1988 to 4 January 1989. [6]

The crime was believed to be the "worst case of juvenile delinquency" in post-war Japan.[7]

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
25. I read a detailed article about that incident.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jun 2022

What those boys did to that girl was beyond horrific, but all 4 of them would have been released several years ago, the longest sentence was 20 years (Hiroshi Miyano).

If the man in this story was inclined to torture her to death, she is lucky to have escaped.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
27. This reminds me of something that happened
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 07:45 PM
Jun 2022

many years ago when I was in my 20s.

My husband and I had a first floor apartment in a nice Cleveland suburb. There was a single male, around our age, in the apartment above us. He was a big sports fan. We often heard him stomp his feet and cheer when his favorite team scored. I saw him occasionally when I went to the apartment building's laundry room.

My husband was a retail manager and sometimes worked until closing at 10:00 pm. I worked 9 to 5. One evening when I was home alone, I heard rumbling noises above me, as if our neighbor was wrestling with someone. Occasionally I heard grunts during this time. I thought the neighbor got into an argument with someone over a game. Some really dedicated sports fans take wins and losses seriously. Then it got quiet and I heard the exterior door to the building open and close. I figured that his visitor had left after their wrestling match.

A couple weeks later, when the landlord was doing some work on the building grounds, he asked me if I had seen my upstairs neighbor in the past few weeks. I hadn't. The neighbor had not mailed his rent check or answered his phone. So the landlord went into the apartment to check on him. He told me that the apartment was empty. The neighbor had moved out without telling anyone. The carpet was soaked in dried blood and there were blood spatters on the wall.

Had I overheard a murder taking place when I thought it was just a couple guys wrestling? No body. No way to contact the guy who had moved out. I never heard what came of it. I presume that the landlord contacted police, but never heard any more about it. A few months later, we moved to another city for my husband's job.

I have wondered since then if I should have been suspicious of the sounds and called police. What would they have found if they had arrived? I will never know.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
36. So do I. I feel guilty for not calling someone,
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 07:57 AM
Jun 2022

but who thinks of murder as the first explanation for rumbling sounds from an overhead apartment?

JI7

(89,247 posts)
30. A lot of Cops just aren't that smart . How could they not consider that they aren't purposely
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 03:31 AM
Jun 2022

answering the door ? Or that it's something to look into. Especially with multiple calls for the same place .

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
31. This is my neighbor
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 04:16 AM
Jun 2022

And I did hear noises and crying. But I thought it was our other neighbors fighting again. We live in one of the safest cities in the US. Altera Park is my back yard. I have seen this man at the grocery store. This just freaked everybody out. It’s one of those neighborhoods where people walk a lot and ride bikes and play at the park. Been quiet this week. We should have done more. Our cops are overpaid street security guards they give tickets like there’s no tomorrow. Nice enough. But I guess nobody would suspect this in chino hills.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
32. But they did recieve mulitple calls for that home so they should have gone in after the 3rd call at
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 04:34 AM
Jun 2022

least . Nice neighborhoods usually just means less property related crimes .

Brenda

(1,047 posts)
33. NOT victim blaming
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:32 AM
Jun 2022

but wtf was she thinking at 22 moving in with a 59 year old man? Maybe she was desperate for housing but it sounds like she did zero research if this happened soon after she moved in.

Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
35. she might have felt safer with guy old enough to be her father/grandfather
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 07:13 AM
Jun 2022

and guy owning big big house in safe neighborhood... doesn't expect he would be a FREAK

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