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Nevilledog

(50,680 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:36 PM Jun 2022

Here's what it might be like to travel on a double decker airplane seat (Nope Nope Nope)





https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/chaise-longue-double-decker-airplane-seat/index.html



Hamburg (CNN) — Flying economy for any extended period of time is an experience usually endured rather than enjoyed, but one airplane seat designer reckons his design could revolutionize budget travel.

Alejandro Núñez Vicente's Chaise Longue Airplane Seat concept started small scale last year, as a college project for the then 21-year-old. A nomination in the 2021 Crystal Cabin Awards -- a top prize in the aviation industry -- swiftly followed, and the design became the focus of a flurry of online attention following a CNN Travel article.

Since then, Núñez Vicente's been making waves in the world of aviation. He's paused his master's degree to pursue the project full time. He's in talks with big-name airlines and seat manufacturing companies. He's been granted some hefty investment that's allowed the project to develop.

But while some marvel at Núñez Vicente's innovation, others recoil, concerned about claustrophobia and convinced sitting underneath someone else would be worse, not better, than the current airplane economy set-up.

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Here's what it might be like to travel on a double decker airplane seat (Nope Nope Nope) (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2022 OP
For those who fantasize about being buried alive! Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
Or those who reminisce about siblings farting in their faces. Nevilledog Jun 2022 #3
OMG! That made me guffaw! Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #8
My first thought as well. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #21
I would only take an aisle seat. Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #6
Can you imagine how difficult it would be to get out of one of the window seats? . . . Journeyman Jun 2022 #10
Great. She gets to have her face quite literally inches from the butt of those in front of her. hlthe2b Jun 2022 #2
There's a barrier. Igel Jun 2022 #36
A minimal barrier at the literal height of her face. That is the issue, not that people all around hlthe2b Jun 2022 #39
"Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom" says woman sitting in the below seat by window Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #4
The designer is a man cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2022 #33
This is how we'll all be boarding planes in a few years EarlG Jun 2022 #5
And stacked like containers on a cargo ship. Igel Jun 2022 #37
How do you get to the toilet? Where does your meal/laptop go? NightWatcher Jun 2022 #7
An easier solution: dalton99a Jun 2022 #9
I heard about these when I was stationed... 3catwoman3 Jun 2022 #25
That was my every morning moonscape Jun 2022 #26
An effort to incentivize "first class". Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #11
I think that was incentivized about thirty years ago. DFW Jun 2022 #20
Oh, hell no! StarryNite Jun 2022 #12
This is a very ableist concept purr-rat beauty Jun 2022 #13
I'M ON TOP! Lochloosa Jun 2022 #14
Not shown: Demons jabbing your butt with pitchforks gratuitous Jun 2022 #15
Not terribly claustrophobic but...not in a million years! Maeve Jun 2022 #16
I am claustrophobic and definitely hell no. CentralMass Jun 2022 #34
Ass Class Celerity Jun 2022 #17
Bizarre. Disaffected Jun 2022 #18
How would you get into the middle seat? wryter2000 Jun 2022 #27
The woman's seat is reclined. Look at the row above. NCLefty Jun 2022 #43
Makes me think of double-decker cattle trailers! KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2022 #19
As long a people insist on flying on the basis of the lowest cost ticket....... brooklynite Jun 2022 #22
I have had a plan for years.... nobody listens. albacore Jun 2022 #23
I'd still go with an on-wing seat plan. And charge extra for them. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #24
This is not new. Just brighter colors. There was a quad decker scheme in use for quite some time Stinky The Clown Jun 2022 #28
That worse than Igel Jun 2022 #40
What's next? Cattle cars? Initech Jun 2022 #29
Glad I'm retired from flying on airplanes if this is the future. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #30
Beyond claustrophobia, farts, discomfort, etc. you'd have Golden Raisin Jun 2022 #31
Better hope the people sitting above you aren't feeling gassy SunImp Jun 2022 #32
here's 2 images from different perspective make it look a tiny bit better than the first pic above: IcyPeas Jun 2022 #35
Unless the extra weight for the seating structure is more than compensated for... Hugin Jun 2022 #41
Yes, from these angles it's MARGINALLY LESS FUCKING AWFUL . . . hatrack Jun 2022 #45
What'll they do with overweight passengers? kskiska Jun 2022 #38
How protected are the lwr seated passengers from ass gas? Kaleva Jun 2022 #42
No. Way. In. Hell. Talitha Jun 2022 #44
Unlikely any airline ever installs these seats on aircraft. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #46
Sits on a pole? Nevilledog Jun 2022 #47
Just strap them to the wing! VGNonly Jun 2022 #48
Paul Mantz VGNonly Jun 2022 #49
Why is that girl smiling? She's obviously just sitting there for the photo Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #50

Journeyman

(15,001 posts)
10. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to get out of one of the window seats? . . .
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:46 PM
Jun 2022

Everyone else would have to get out first, and you'd have to crawl over the seats to get to the aisle.

Forget claustrophobia. I'd have visions of myriad forms of death dancing through my head the entire flight.

hlthe2b

(101,728 posts)
2. Great. She gets to have her face quite literally inches from the butt of those in front of her.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:40 PM
Jun 2022

As if the claustrophobia alone were not bad enough.

Igel

(35,197 posts)
36. There's a barrier.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jun 2022

Next time you're in a public restroom, think about what's 2 feet behind you as you take a crap.

Or separated from by you by a 1.25" door or a rather thin partition. Isolated? Hardly.

Fortunately, that barrier doesn't have to be that thick to stop gas, and airplane air circulation is pretty constrained, ceiling to floor.

hlthe2b

(101,728 posts)
39. A minimal barrier at the literal height of her face. That is the issue, not that people all around
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jun 2022

with their myriad of body functions, we expect throughout life--, but the height puts the traveler's face literally and directly inches from the butt of the person in front. I think the designer has one warped sense of humor.

Demovictory9

(32,323 posts)
4. "Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom" says woman sitting in the below seat by window
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jun 2022

would have to wiggle and slide out.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. How do you get to the toilet? Where does your meal/laptop go?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jun 2022

Why not just knock us out and toss our incapacitated bodies into a slightly heated cargo hold and revive us after landing?

moonscape

(4,664 posts)
26. That was my every morning
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:33 PM
Jun 2022

subway ride to 42nd St in Manhattan in the early 70’s … though going home after work was marginally better.

DFW

(54,055 posts)
20. I think that was incentivized about thirty years ago.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:14 PM
Jun 2022

They just made the coach seats smaller and smaller, and gave away less to eat, drink or check in the luggage hold until coach passengers found themselves paying extra for just about everything except the oxygen in the main cabin.

Before they stick me in one of the seats depicted, I'll fly Air France, even if I have to fly New York to Atlanta via Paris.

purr-rat beauty

(542 posts)
13. This is a very ableist concept
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jun 2022

I don't think this would be comfortable for many people with physical or even mental health concerns.

Disaffected

(4,507 posts)
18. Bizarre.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jun 2022

And what about an emergency evacuation after a crash? Also looks like a fine recipe for leg thrombosis.

How the hell would you enter/exit? Looks like you would have to squat down standing on the seat and somehow slide your legs forwards. Exit would be even harder - is there a bar you would have to grasp to pull yourself up? Reserved for contortionists only.

Good grief, the isle seats would be bad enough let alone the centre. Sounds like something Trump would dream up...

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
27. How would you get into the middle seat?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:38 PM
Jun 2022

And how would the person in the middle get up to use the restroom? Would they charge more to sit up top?

I remember several years ago they were going to experiment with benches passengers strapped them selves onto. Never heard anything more about that.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
43. The woman's seat is reclined. Look at the row above.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 07:14 PM
Jun 2022

It looks comparable to the crappy amount of room they already give us.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
19. Makes me think of double-decker cattle trailers!
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jun 2022


No sane human with back trouble would buy a seat on that plane from hell.

Looks like something a Republican would design (profits before principles).

KY

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
22. As long a people insist on flying on the basis of the lowest cost ticket.......
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jun 2022

The "Golden Age of Air Travel" that people think they remember came with significantly higher fares.

albacore

(2,387 posts)
23. I have had a plan for years.... nobody listens.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jun 2022

First... everybody gets a Depends.

The plane doesn't have seats... it has tubes that can be stacked in the cabin.
You show up, don your diaper, they start an IV of joy-juice, slide you into the tube, and fork-lift you onto the plane.

When you land, your IV has run out, and your baggage has been unloaded.
A quick shower in the communal locker room, and off you go on your travel adventure.

I mean.... as long as we are just cargo anyway.....

Stinky The Clown

(67,678 posts)
28. This is not new. Just brighter colors. There was a quad decker scheme in use for quite some time
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:39 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

EDIT to remove an image that doesn't want to be hot linked



Igel

(35,197 posts)
40. That worse than
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jun 2022

" target="_blank">this.

But let's not get carried away with ourselves. You want to stack people like cordwood, you get things like that.

Spent a night on the Battleship Houston.

" target="_blank">Bunks were, um, constrained--not not like in the first link. No, the "mattresses" aren't *nearly* as comfortable as they appear.

(On edit: On my screen, the HTML is giving weird results.)

GoodRaisin

(8,885 posts)
30. Glad I'm retired from flying on airplanes if this is the future.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jun 2022

I had to travel on airplanes almost constantly and I already hated it without having to experience something like this. I haven’t been on a plane since the day I retired and have no intention of ever going back again.

Good luck to those who may be forced to endure this. Hopefully the institute of spine health will come down hard on this idea.

Golden Raisin

(4,600 posts)
31. Beyond claustrophobia, farts, discomfort, etc. you'd have
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jun 2022

to be 21 or younger just to get in and out. Not made for older, creaky, unwieldy bodies.

Hugin

(32,778 posts)
41. Unless the extra weight for the seating structure is more than compensated for...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jun 2022

by the extra fares from the added passengers, they won't go with this set up.

I can see them starting with this and what they end up with being even more draconian and hideous as they hack away at the weight.



hatrack

(59,440 posts)
45. Yes, from these angles it's MARGINALLY LESS FUCKING AWFUL . . .
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:08 PM
Jun 2022

I'll freaking walk before subjecting myself to this bullshit.

This concept won an award?

kskiska

(27,041 posts)
38. What'll they do with overweight passengers?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jun 2022

Americans have gotten much heavier over the years. From what I see on TV, they can't even fit in today's seats.

Talitha

(6,477 posts)
44. No. Way. In. Hell.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 08:55 PM
Jun 2022


I'm 70.

With arthritis.

I need access to a bathroom now and again.

No way in hell would I subject myself to this nonsense.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
46. Unlikely any airline ever installs these seats on aircraft.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:08 PM
Jun 2022

Every few years this story gets done. Last time around it was planes where everyone sits on a pole. It’s just clickbait.

VGNonly

(7,430 posts)
49. Paul Mantz
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:26 PM
Jun 2022

renowned racing pilot, movie stunt flier and airplane consultant died during the making of this film. Notice the difference between the Phoenix and the plane in the end. It crashed during tests, flipping over, Mantz broke his neck.

Rhiannon12866

(202,978 posts)
50. Why is that girl smiling? She's obviously just sitting there for the photo
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:24 PM
Jun 2022

And not preparing for an overseas flight...

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