Not trying to be snarky but I have an honest question. If someone who is anti-abortion is revealed

[Quixote1818]

to have had an abortion, do some here think this is off limits to bring up the hypocrisy because you feel this is "slut-shaming"? If so, is there any instance where it would not be slut shaming to you, to point out the hypocrisy? Where is the line drawn or are all who had abortions but suggest abortion is evil off limits to criticism because you feel it's a sensitive and private matter? Again, just trying to understand where you draw the line or where you see the line being crossed.

This would also go for politicians and religious figures who say prostitution is an evil sin but then indulge in the behavior they say is sinful.

As far as I could see, pretty much 100% of DU members posting were very careful not to slut shame on the Boerbert story and went out of there way to only point at the hypocrisy angle. The press release made this distinction as well.

Since the Boebert story is un-substantiated at this point, this post isn't about her and I hope posters can stay focused on the hypothetical situation I laid out above.

I am not going to argue with anyone. I am just interested in the responses and if perhaps there is something I am not being sensitive to. Trying to keep an open mind as the story seemed to upset a number of people.

[RainCaster]

1. Everyone I know that is rabid pro-life

Has had an abortion in their past. No exceptions.

[walkingman]

3. Yep, that seems to be SOP for Conservatives - same goes for anti-gay people.

[SKKY]

20. The only person I know who has had an abortion is now pro-life due to...

...her own personal guilt for choosing her military career over becoming a single mother in the military. So, I don't have a large sample size, but I do know she still votes fairly consistently for Democrats so who knows.

[onecaliberal]

2. It's calling out hypocrisy. Not only that but I'm fed up with these people putting their

Fake morals for others to live by while they actually stand for nothing. They’re vapid and soulless. There is no bottom. NO BOTTOM.

[Skittles]

10. THANK YOU

I absolutely agree; yes INDEED.

[brooklynite]

4. I'm still waiting for the hypocrisy....

...which assumes that someone has actual evidence of what the "Muckrakers PAC" has alleged.

[keithbvadu2]

5. The only moral abortion is my abortion

The only moral abortion is my abortion

https://tinyurl.com/2j8xu8km

[Effete Snob]

6. Mother Jones...

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2022/06/lauren-boebert-sexism-abortion-rumors/

Stop Spreading Those Deeply Misogynistic Rumors About Lauren Boebert

…

Sure, one could call Boebert a hypocrite for allegedly having abortions despite publicly opposing them. But accusing Boebert of having done sex work and gotten abortions involves an obvious layer of contempt, of shaming a woman for things that she shouldn’t have to be ashamed of—especially when there’s no shortage of actually shameful things to talk about.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

13. Interesting take...

The fact that these dropped before Republican primaries and the PAC is endorsing their primary opponents lends credence to them being more about the behavior than the hypocrisy..

[grumpyduck]

7. If she had two abortions as alleged,

AFAIC, that's her own business. But if she's opposing it now for political purposes, as alleged, then she's a fucking hypocrite.

I would say the same about anyone else doing one thing and then making an issue of opposing it for political purposes. At least have the decency to admit you changed your mind about it.

Still... where's the proof?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

8. "Slut shaming" is bogus.

Anyone who has had an abortion who now wants to deny that to others, is a hypocrite. A dishonest hypocrite.

Some years ago I read a piece about a woman who had had something like six or seven abortions, and who now thought that that no woman should ever be able to have one. I was outraged. Just because you made a whole lot of bad choices, doesn't mean you get to restrict other women from making good or appropriate choices.

If you've had an abortion, if you claim to have been opposed to abortion but then when your daughter turned up pregnant and you offered her the abortion possibility, then you are pro-choice. Even though you don't get it. Being opposed to abortion until a young woman close to you needs one simply shows your hypocrisy.

I'm old enough that I came of age before Roe v Wade, and so I get it in ways younger people simply don't. I remember various home abortion things, some of which ended the pregnancy, most of which didn't. Others of which ended the pregnancy, but rendered the woman infertile. There is a reason a lot of Hollywood stars wound up adopting. Think about it.

Oh, and I remember the hypocrisy of a young, pregnant woman going to a group of doctors and stating that yes, if she had to stay pregnant she'd kill herself. I remember those who could afford it sending their teenage daughter to Hawaii to get an abortion there.

I don't know if it's still true, but a couple of decades ago I read that in Brazil, some huge number of maternity ward beds, up to 50%, were occupied by women who'd had illegal abortions.

[Walleye]

9. I believe a person's pregnancy is their own private business. Too bad the GOP doesn't believe that

But the GOP has already told us that a pregnant woman has no right to privacy

[canetoad]

12. So do I, Walleye

Until they go public, as a US member of congress and use an extremely dubious religious reason to ban that right to almost every other woman or childbearing age.

[Walleye]

14. Exactly. I agree 100%.

[TreasonousBastard]

11. I know a few women who had an abortion, or two, and became..

rabidly anti abortion. I'll leave it to the barroom shrinks to explain it, but it is verfiable phenomenon.

[MuseRider]

15. Not a subject for discussion.

They did what they did for whatever reason they had at the time. Why does anyone care how they felt at any certain time? If they tell you, listen and accept it otherwise it is none of your business to call them anything.

Times and situations change and that is NO business of anyone to judge no matter who they are and no matter what they may say later.

Slut shaming? Really? So they had one and then decided nobody else should makes her a slut? Changing her mind makes her a slut? Why is that horrible term even seen here under any circumstances? Horrible people can be just as horrible without the sexist name calling.

[leftyladyfrommo]

18. That's how I feel. It's nobody's fucking business. nt

[patricia92243]

16. How far apart to the two things have to happen? When does the past become

the past?

Slut shaming is never appropriate.

[Kaleva]

17. The threads were about Boebert specifically, despite lack of substantian

So your post is about her.


One of two things will happen here. The stories will be verified and Boebert will rightly be called out for hypocrisy or the reports will be found false and those who used what turned out be be lies to attack will be exposed to similiar charges. The truth doesn't matter if points can be made.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. Weaponizing abortion history against people we don't like normalizes weaponizing abortion history

in general.

[Samrob]

21. Sorta like all the GOP House Managers who jumped all over Bill Clinton for Monica Lewsinsky

and then had to resign when their extramarital children and affairs were exposed? or the GOP homophobic Congressmen who were caught soliciting young boys on Capitol Hill. When can one call a thing a thing?

[Sympthsical]

22. Norm MacDonald on hypocrisy

This whole thing just keeps bringing this bit to mind, the shallowness of the obsession with hypocrisy.

(There's some mild language, and it's about Bill Cosby's rape convictions).

Norm was a legend.

[Novara]

23. Wait. Let me get this straight.

So stripping women of bodily autonomy while being an utter hypocrite about it is distasteful to some?

Suck it up, Buttercup.

If you're taking my rights away and telling me it's a "moral" thing while you indulged in the same rights you're now taking away, I'ma call you out on your hypocrisy.

I don't give a shit what she did to be pregnant. The very idea that she ended pregnancies yet pushes a holier-than-thou restriction on other women makes her a fucking hypocrite and hell yes, she should be called out on it. It's the same for any legislator who passes anti-gay legislation and is exposed as gay. It's the hypocrisy.

[Dysfunctional]

24. It would depend on when and why she had the abortion(s).