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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:47 PM Jun 2022

The Whole Herschel Walker Thing Illustrates Something

The old idea of throwing a former "Football Hero" into a major political race gets less and less likely to work when that "Hero" can't string five words together to make a sentence. Herschel Walker can't really give a speech. He's just not that articulate. When he speaks, particularly off-the-cuff, word salad falls from his mouth.

Bad choice by the GQP.

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The Whole Herschel Walker Thing Illustrates Something (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2022 OP
I Got Called a "Racist" Deep State Witch Jun 2022 #1
Nothing to do with race at all. MineralMan Jun 2022 #3
I hope a DUer didn't say that... your comment would describe Walker no matter his color..... Karadeniz Jun 2022 #4
No Deep State Witch Jun 2022 #10
The GOP probably nominated him hoping Democrats would be too "woke" to criticize Herschel. sop Jun 2022 #18
Unfortunately, the GOP knows its base, although we should properly refer to them as a flock (of Karadeniz Jun 2022 #2
The GQP is not looking for a candidate with intellect. Norbert Jun 2022 #5
Herschel strikes me as a loose cannon, not likely to take marching orders from McConnell. sop Jun 2022 #20
SENATOR Tommy Tuberville maxsolomon Jun 2022 #6
Warnock is trailing him slightly in polling. Can you f'ing believe it? CurtEastPoint Jun 2022 #7
Maybe, but 538 currently has Walker up by almost 2 points over Warnock. SYFROYH Jun 2022 #8
There's still time for things to sink in. MineralMan Jun 2022 #11
I think the issue is that this is a case of extreme reverse partizanship. SYFROYH Jun 2022 #17
I agree but I also think they're letting him run as a distraction. Probatim Jun 2022 #9
What falls out of his mouth isn't a word salad, it's a random assortment of vegetables and ms liberty Jun 2022 #12
I was trying to be kind... MineralMan Jun 2022 #13
That's how he ended up running, kindness! No one was brutally honest with him! ms liberty Jun 2022 #16
Disagree. ruet Jun 2022 #14
Except his polling is good. Too good. herding cats Jun 2022 #15
Gotta take exception to your conclusion packman Jun 2022 #19
And yet the race is super close... Caliman73 Jun 2022 #21
We'll see, in the end. MineralMan Jun 2022 #22
Of course we will see in the end... Caliman73 Jun 2022 #23

Deep State Witch

(10,425 posts)
1. I Got Called a "Racist"
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

For commenting that he was too stupid to know that he was being used. Those were my exact words. No racial animus involved. I said the same thing about Tommy Tuberville.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
2. Unfortunately, the GOP knows its base, although we should properly refer to them as a flock (of
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jun 2022

Sheep), since a total moron is polling well.....

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
5. The GQP is not looking for a candidate with intellect.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

Just someone to vote their way 100% of the time.

maxsolomon

(33,331 posts)
6. SENATOR Tommy Tuberville
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jun 2022

contradicts your point.

All that matters is the R after the name. GQP voters don't require legislative skills. They require obstruction.

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
8. Maybe, but 538 currently has Walker up by almost 2 points over Warnock.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/georgia/

I have to believe that Warnock will pull this out, but it won't be easy.

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
17. I think the issue is that this is a case of extreme reverse partizanship.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022


It doesn't matter who the Republican nominee is. It doesn't even matter who the Democratic nominee/incumbent is.

They (Republicans and right learning indies) hate Democrats in power and they will vote for any Republican over any Democrat.

In GA, they make up about half the state.

I live her and we're fighting for Abrams and Warnock.

Probatim

(2,528 posts)
9. I agree but I also think they're letting him run as a distraction.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

Focus our efforts on his obvious mental deficiencies while they're running a much longer game.

I can't help but think of the hundreds, if not thousands, of co-conspirators involved in 1/6 and everything that came after it. We all recognize TFG's role and that of his close surrogates in launching and running the big lie, but it seems we're missing the bigger picture that includes:

1. Several states selecting an alternate set of electors - that takes coordination among many in each state and nationally.
2. Coordination among many states to quickly draft and pass legislation reducing our voting rights - that will have a direct impact on midterms this year.
3. Close cooperation between media outlets and those running the big lie.

My hope is that these hearings are the loose thread that unspools the knot. My expectation is much lower.

Trying not to be a downer, but we're at 10 months since insurrectionists stormed the Capitol and we're rapidly running out of time.

ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
12. What falls out of his mouth isn't a word salad, it's a random assortment of vegetables and
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jun 2022

Condiments that don't go together. It's really that bad. Bless his heart, he doesn't even get it either.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
14. Disagree.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jun 2022

He is the means to an end. The end being a reliable RW vote on EVERY issue. They don't give two shites about how he speaks as long as he can indicate yeah or nay. They would vote for Clint Eastwood's empty chair if it came out as a Republican.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
15. Except his polling is good. Too good.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jun 2022

It's as if the fact he was a Dawg and later a famous pro football player is all some people are seeing. It terrifies me.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
19. Gotta take exception to your conclusion
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jun 2022

"Bad choice by the GQP."

That's all the choices they seem to be going for now - the flash, the name, the bang on the drum. Remember Lincoln about fooling the people, ' You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but never all the people all the time."

They had success with Ronnie the movie star and it went downhill from there it could be argued

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
21. And yet the race is super close...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jun 2022

The GOP is not relying on persuasive candidates. They are relying on capturing the infrastructure of voting (which they have) and suppressing enough votes, to win by whatever margin.

Walker is name recognition for Georgia Conservatives. He has over 65% of the White vote and less than 7% of the Black vote according to one poll that shows him in a statistical dead heat with the excellent Raphael Warnock.

Walker won't debate, he can avoid speeches, and these "foot in mouth" incidents will not stop GOP from voting for him. It will be about getting out the vote and avoiding all of the roadblocks the GOP will set up for Democratic voters.

It should not be, in the least, a tough race. It will be.

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