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Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:15 PM Jun 2022

Do children in heaven stay children forever?


So the Texas attorney general is also a religious philosopher with apparent knowledge to share on dead children and the afterlife.

https://people.com/politics/texas-ag-faces-backlash-for-advice-to-uvalde-families/

Texas AG Faces Backlash for Saying He'd Tell Families Who Lost Children in Uvalde That 'God Always Has a Plan'



I’ve heard quite a few folks opine that the parents will be reunited with their children in Heaven eventually. I guess that will be great for the parents, but it’s got to be weird for the children since their parents will be a lot older than they remember. Also, it kind of sucks that the children do not get to become adults, but have to stay children forever.

My children are adults already, so I won’t have any children in Heaven. That kind of sucks that other parents will have perpetual children in Heaven, but other parents won’t have children. I guess my parents will be kind of bummed out, too, since it looks like all of their children are going to be older than my father, which will be kind of awkward if you think about it, but he died young.

The State of Texas is lucky to have an attorney general who has this all sorted out.
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Do children in heaven stay children forever? (Original Post) Effete Snob Jun 2022 OP
Hmm... Mike Nelson Jun 2022 #1
A local preacher here says everyone in heaven PXR-5 Jun 2022 #2
Or why he just can't come down and tell us himself. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #9
So Heaven is like a dating app? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #11
God's just messing with them Retrograde Jun 2022 #15
You may have the key Effete Snob Jun 2022 #23
What psychics say is that they continue to develop, but I'm not a psychic... I depend on Paxton Karadeniz Jun 2022 #3
Well, maybe Paxton might know Effete Snob Jun 2022 #13
such absurdities RussBLib Jun 2022 #4
Like Vampires? LakeArenal Jun 2022 #5
No thanks, I just had a werewolf Effete Snob Jun 2022 #14
Delicious LakeArenal Jun 2022 #18
Reminds me of eating a wookie Effete Snob Jun 2022 #21
Beware of false prophets. Right now, they're making a fortune MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #6
There is no reason to have a rational discussion over a hypothetical about a fairy tale. Celerity Jun 2022 #7
Doncha just love people who live in fantasy worlds Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #8
Using this logic, god also has a plan for fetuses that are aborted /nt wackadoo wabbit Jun 2022 #10
God's will. 70sEraVet Jun 2022 #19
Heaven - the most ironic scam Lemonwurst Jun 2022 #12
Oh well, at least the shooter is in Hell. Heaven must be a gun-free zone, so OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2022 #16
They have guns in heaven Effete Snob Jun 2022 #22
In Heaven, everyone has the quickest draw. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2022 #24
Mass shooters can always claim they did what they did because it was God's plan Solly Mack Jun 2022 #17
Of course not. They just wait for the next opportunity to reincarnate. Binkie The Clown Jun 2022 #20
great movie. nt orleans Jun 2022 #26
Also: all your family pets... they didn't make it because god didn't give them souls! 🙀 NCLefty Jun 2022 #25
"when children die they do not grow" orleans Jun 2022 #27
Heaven is whatever you think it is... nobody is wrong, and we don't share heavens. Lucid Dreamer Jun 2022 #28

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
1. Hmm...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:23 PM
Jun 2022

... I always thought it would be just a "soul" - with no specific age. Every soul is the same age. BUT, I have no Earthly idea!

PXR-5

(522 posts)
2. A local preacher here says everyone in heaven
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jun 2022

is the same age, 35.

So you, your kids, grandparents etc will all be the same age.

I don't understand why God tells preachers different things.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
15. God's just messing with them
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:59 PM
Jun 2022

telling them different things, seeing which ones spread the furthest.

But I have a question - for much of humanity's existence, the average life span was less than 35 years - in some societies, a lot less. In medieval and early modern Europe (largely a Christian area) most people didn't even see their 5th birthdays. Wouldn't it to be disorienting to have died as a young girl only to find yourself in heaven, having gone through puberty and all its bodily changes - and now being possibly on the verge of menopause. Has God really thought this all through?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
23. You may have the key
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:21 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe God’s just way in over his head and really has no idea what he’s doing.

He created humans and listens to us pray in case anyone has any good ideas.

I know my ex wife gives him advice on what to do all of the time.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
3. What psychics say is that they continue to develop, but I'm not a psychic... I depend on Paxton
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:27 PM
Jun 2022

Completely for knowledge about the mind of God....

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. Well, maybe Paxton might know
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jun 2022

Because Texas is a big state. It’s not like God would tell anyone in Rhode Island.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
4. such absurdities
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:33 PM
Jun 2022

people twisting themselves into knots to try to justify their religious ideas.

or, worse, people are so fucking lazy they just call everything God's will, so they don't have to think, or emote. I mean, why mourn the loss of your child if they are now in heaven?

Lemonwurst

(285 posts)
12. Heaven - the most ironic scam
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:51 PM
Jun 2022

Just a moment of reasoning leads to a realization that self-awareness that lasts forever would be a hell unlike any imaginable.

Our singularity is valuable only because of its finality.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
16. Oh well, at least the shooter is in Hell. Heaven must be a gun-free zone, so
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:59 PM
Jun 2022

the NRA and their gun nuts will probably have an eternity to be pissed off.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
17. Mass shooters can always claim they did what they did because it was God's plan
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:00 PM
Jun 2022

or it was God's will or God had his reasons for wanting them to shoot a bunch of people.

They can always call on the people, like Paxton, who claim it was God's will/God's plan/God has his reasons as expert witnesses. They're quite a few among the right-wing who make this claim about everything.

Why not?

If it was God's plan, then surely that makes the shooter an instrument of God and the shooter was simply doing the Lord's work. Mysterious ways and all that.

Surely all those gun-humping religious folks would agree.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
20. Of course not. They just wait for the next opportunity to reincarnate.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:08 PM
Jun 2022

Anyone who thinks otherwise has clearly never watched What Dreams May Come.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
25. Also: all your family pets... they didn't make it because god didn't give them souls! 🙀
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:36 AM
Jun 2022

From the Catholics...

We know from the natural light of human reason that the pets we have now will not exist in the new heaven and new earth. The souls that animals have are entirely dependent on their material makeup. As such, they do not continue to exist after bodily death as human souls do. Therefore, all animals that die before the advent of Christ’s second coming will not exist in the new heaven and new earth.

And there couldn’t be any sort of resurrection of these animals since resurrection presupposes a continued existence of some sort. Fido can’t be resurrected and brought into existence from nothing at the same time.

https://www.catholic.com/qa/do-pets-go-to-heaven


Of course, the current pope has apparently changed god's mind on this (funny how they can do that!). From 2014:

Pope Francis confirmed during his weekly address in the Vatican’s St. Peter’s Square that canines, along with “all of God’s creatures,” can make it to heaven.

The leader of the Catholic Church made the remark in order to comfort a young boy who was mourning the death of his dog, according to the New York Times.

https://time.com/3631242/pope-francis-dogs-heaven-catholic-church/

orleans

(34,051 posts)
27. "when children die they do not grow"
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:21 AM
Jun 2022


(one of the first, maybe the very first, anti-war song i learned when i was a kid)

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
28. Heaven is whatever you think it is... nobody is wrong, and we don't share heavens.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jun 2022

Freestyle... Everybody is right.
And you can't prove me wrong.

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