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CTyankee

(63,911 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:06 AM Jun 2022

"Getting wrapped around the axle" Did anyone else notice this phrase in one witnesses' testimony?

I always heard this growing up post WW2 in Texas and I thought it was a Navy term.

I still use it. Anyone else know the derivation?

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"Getting wrapped around the axle" Did anyone else notice this phrase in one witnesses' testimony? (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2022 OP
I use it too, but I don't know where it came from. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #1
Here: dalton99a Jun 2022 #2
Thank you. You just gave me a new website! How did I not know this one? niyad Jun 2022 #4
Luttig... I loved that line... targetpractice Jun 2022 #3
And let's not forget dancer Isadora Duncan viva la Jun 2022 #5
gmta,,,, exactly. n/t KarenS Jun 2022 #7
I thought about the death of dancer Isadora Duncan when I heard the phrase. sop Jun 2022 #6
I heard it. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2022 #8
Yes, I felt the same way. Very sad... CTyankee Jun 2022 #14
Still hear that phrase all the time in my work. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #9
Definitely not a naval term, as examples above show... Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #10
It was a Navy guy, actually a Seabee, who worked at the Pentagon at the time that used it once to CTyankee Jun 2022 #15
Love that expression! Ptah Jun 2022 #11
The Grammarphobia Blog states: zuul Jun 2022 #12
I use the term. Urban dictionary defines it as follows: LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #13
It is an expression cksmithy Jun 2022 #16
wagon and/or automobile term Kali Jun 2022 #17

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
3. Luttig... I loved that line...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jun 2022

... I didn't know the origin, but it's a great visual image... Happened to me with my bike as a kid, a lawnmower, and kitchen disposal.

The earliest example we’ve seen of the phrase in its original sense is from a 19th-century account of a mishap at a California woolen mill. The accident happened when a belt driving a piece of machinery, broke and “became wrapped around the axle or shaft of the wheel” (Sacramento Daily Union, Dec. 16, 1867).

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2020/06/wrapped-around-the-axle.html

sop

(10,167 posts)
6. I thought about the death of dancer Isadora Duncan when I heard the phrase.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jun 2022

In 1927 Isadora Duncan was strangled when the long silk scarf she was wearing became tangled in the rear wheel and wrapped around the axle of her open car as it traveled down tne road.

Happy Hoosier

(7,295 posts)
9. Still hear that phrase all the time in my work.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:10 AM
Jun 2022

Mostly from old farts such as myself, but pretty common in defense aerospace circles.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
10. Definitely not a naval term, as examples above show...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jun 2022

It does come out of industry/automotive usages. I've known it and used it for a long time.

CTyankee

(63,911 posts)
15. It was a Navy guy, actually a Seabee, who worked at the Pentagon at the time that used it once to
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jun 2022

describe someone getting worked up and screwing up. So I figured, well he's a construction guy, he oughta know...

Ptah

(33,028 posts)
11. Love that expression!
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:14 AM
Jun 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216808278#post11

Luttig said "all the players" in the effort not to certify the 2020 election results "got wrapped around the axle by the historical evidence claim by Mr. Eastman," referring to John Eastman, the conservative lawyer who helped craft the scheme to overturn the election results on Jan. 6.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
12. The Grammarphobia Blog states:
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jun 2022

"The earliest example we've seen of the phrase in its original sense is from a 19th-century account of a mishap at a California woolen mill. The accident happened when a belt driving a piece of machinery, broke and “became wrapped around the axle or shaft of the wheel” (Sacramento Daily Union, Dec. 16, 1867).Jun 15, 2020"

My boss uses that phrase all the time and he is neither sailor nor a machinist. of course, he uses it in the wrong context, which makes it pretty hilarious.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
13. I use the term. Urban dictionary defines it as follows:
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jun 2022

The Urban Dictionary definition of “wrapped around the axle”: To be caught up in a situation or with a person to the extent that whatever happens in the situation or to the person also affects you, often disastrously.

I've used the term most of my life, probably because it is a common saying in my neck of the woods.

cksmithy

(231 posts)
16. It is an expression
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jun 2022

we've used when string, grass, hair, anything that get stuck on an axle. I have removed hair that gets caught on my roomba rollers where the axle attaches to the roomba. I used to clean/remove what ever got caught on my kids tricycle back wheels. (Take the cotter pin out and clean the axle.) My husband, a retired journeyman mechanic, has removed highway trash, plastic bags, etc., during the 1970's usually from 4x4 trucks axles, which at that time, the axles had more exposure to debris on the road.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
17. wagon and/or automobile term
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jun 2022

out here we sometimes get fence or baling wire wrapped around an axle. can be a dangerous situation or just a pain in the ass mess.

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