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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:53 AM Jun 2022

Chris Hayes Says It Out Loud: Trump Tried To Have Pence Killed

If this isn't grounds for the DOJ to do something, I don't know what is.

https://crooksandliars.com/2022/06/chris-hayes-says-it-out-loud-trump-tried

Chris Hayes Says It Out Loud: Trump Tried To Have Pence Killed
The most reasonable interpretation of the facts is it was an assassination attempt. Wow, but true.
By Frances Langum — June 17, 2022

I don't know why

TRUMP TRIED TO GET MIKE PENCE KILLED

isn't the headline in every major outlet today. Wait, yes I do.


The sitting so-called president was okay with this. That's the actual headline. Our corporate media is too chickenshit to say it. https://t.co/ATM09RrrHX

— Frances Langum 🧶🇺🇦 (@bluegal) June 16, 2022


Chris Hayes has to couch his language but is courageous enough to say it out loud with a carefully worded preface:

HAYES: Establishing clearly, they [the White House] knew there was violence at the Capitol when he sent the tweet...

Trump Tweet about Pence Credit: Screenshot/PBS NewsHour

...I think the most reasonable interpretation of the facts, not necessarily the most definitive one, but the most reasonable interpretation of the facts as introduced...

...is that the President of the United States tried to get the Vice President killed.


Saying that sentence sounds...a little nuts, but what closed the loop for me on this today? Was the definitive establishing in the testimony today that they knew when he sent the tweet [that the mob was violent]. That was always...it seemed clear at the time...we were all watching it on TV...but the fact he had been briefed, the fact they told him how hairy it had gotten, how scary it had gotten. There were internal communications going to the President, and he sent that tweet. It is very difficult to find an interpretation, that is NOT that... the President decided to sic the crowd on the Vice President.


Lawrence Tribe also says a thing:

Trump’s 2:24 pm tweet on 1/6/21 calling Pence a coward is in retrospect the smoking gun.

— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) June 17, 2022

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Chris Hayes Says It Out Loud: Trump Tried To Have Pence Killed (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2022 OP
Trump reminds me of King Richard II who riled up his supporters to Kill Bishop Beckett. katmondoo Jun 2022 #1
The whole country is in more danger every day that passes, secondwind Jun 2022 #2
Trump is guiltier than Henry II exboyfil Jun 2022 #3
Stand back and stand by Johnny2X2X Jun 2022 #4
The committee is doing it's job in that the People are seeing Baked Potato Jun 2022 #5
What legal charge is there for riling up a mob by blaming Pence? Novara Jun 2022 #6
Attempted murder is a huge stretch BettyonRed Jun 2022 #7
Why is this a huge stretch if you accept babylonsister Jun 2022 #9
I agree on DT bonkers comment. BettyonRed Jun 2022 #10
He was inciting violence toward Pence and he knew what the likely result was. milestogo Jun 2022 #8

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
1. Trump reminds me of King Richard II who riled up his supporters to Kill Bishop Beckett.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jun 2022

Beckett was brutally killed in church while praying. I feel Trump is doing the same with his supporters and Pense is in even more danger now.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. The whole country is in more danger every day that passes,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jun 2022

and this asshat is still not held responsible.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
3. Trump is guiltier than Henry II
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jun 2022

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome VP? I have my good buddy Chuck Grassley on the line to do what is right.

Johnny2X2X

(19,065 posts)
4. Stand back and stand by
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

The Proud Boys were ordered to kill Pence. Biden knew Trump was using the Proud Boys during the campaign, that's why he mentioned them, he knew Trump wouldn't condemn them because they were working for him.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
5. The committee is doing it's job in that the People are seeing
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

what a danger Republicans are to a functioning Democracy.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
6. What legal charge is there for riling up a mob by blaming Pence?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jun 2022

I doubt "attempted murder" would stick. I believe you'd need a hell of a lot more than that to convict him of attempted murder.

I think it was wholly irresponsible for Hayes to say that on air.

 

BettyonRed

(40 posts)
7. Attempted murder is a huge stretch
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

From the information and the tweet. Just saying…that is a big step to make with really no solid evidence in between. The need to go after the republicans with solid charges that can actually stick.

babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
9. Why is this a huge stretch if you accept
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:09 PM
Jun 2022

the fact that they were trying to overthrow the government, and given how bonkers dt really is? I put nothing past him.

And welcome to DU.

 

BettyonRed

(40 posts)
10. I agree on DT bonkers comment.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jun 2022

But their is a large conceptual gap between the tweet and a murder charge.

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