Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:35 AM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
Today would be a good day to indict Donald John Trump
Today would be a good day to indict Donald John Trump
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SoonerPride | Jun 2022 | OP |
comradebillyboy | Jun 2022 | #1 | |
MineralMan | Jun 2022 | #2 | |
H2O Man | Jun 2022 | #7 | |
MineralMan | Jun 2022 | #8 | |
H2O Man | Jun 2022 | #9 | |
SoonerPride | Jun 2022 | #11 | |
MineralMan | Jun 2022 | #13 | |
Seeking Serenity | Jun 2022 | #3 | |
SoonerPride | Jun 2022 | #5 | |
Ocelot II | Jun 2022 | #4 | |
SoonerPride | Jun 2022 | #6 | |
USALiberal | Jun 2022 | #10 | |
SoonerPride | Jun 2022 | #12 |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:52 AM
comradebillyboy (9,718 posts)
1. That will never happen. Trump could, in fact, shoot
someone on fifth avenue and get away with it.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:54 AM
MineralMan (144,947 posts)
2. Is there a current federal grand jury hearing testimony on this?
I am not aware of one. Only a grand jury can indict someone in a federal case. That is how it works.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:18 PM
H2O Man (70,600 posts)
7. That's true per indictment.
It is unlikely the public would know if there is a grand jury considering Trump etc. The DOJ isn't limited to indictments, though; they can use either a "criminal information" or "criminal complaint" to press federal charges.
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Response to H2O Man (Reply #7)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:23 PM
MineralMan (144,947 posts)
8. It seems highly unlikely that the DOJ would use either of those alternatives
in a case involving a former President. I can't imagine them doing that, actually. You're right, of course, about public knowledge of sitting federal grand juries. We don't know what grand juries are seated, nor what they are considering.
Is there an active one regarding Trump? I doubt it, at the present time. That will be a special case, no doubt. My reply, really, was just to bring up the whole indictment thing. Some people don't know much about indictments and how they happen. That occurred to me on reading the OP of this thread. |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:29 PM
H2O Man (70,600 posts)
9. Right.
If anything, there might be an investigative grand jury that is focused on those not directly involved in the riot, though not Trump specifically. And I agree with you on both posts ..... just trying to spark conversations, as they tend to bring out the best in DU.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:33 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
11. I fully understand how the DOJ works.
They have had more than enough time to impanel a grand jury and indict a criminal.
Today would be a good day to act. Stop dithering. |
Response to SoonerPride (Reply #11)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:17 PM
MineralMan (144,947 posts)
13. I don't doubt that you do.
However, given the separation of powers and some sense of professional courtesy, I do anticipate an indictment of Donald J. Trump before the House Committee wraps up its schedule. I think sometime in September has been mentioned. I doubt that AG Garland will want to step on the committee's toes by acting before then.
From outside of all of this, I think we often forget the etiquette that generally holds among the three branches of federal government. While they are not openly coordinating with each other, all parties are certainly aware of what is going on in all three. We have a sense of urgency, being out of the loop entirely. However, there is likely a respectful lack of urgency at the DOJ in light of the ongoing Committee activities. The interplay between the branches is a delicate one, and has a traditional, yet unwritten, dance card. Separate, but equal, each branch takes its turn on the floor. In the end, nothing will be completed before this November's elections. Navarro's scheduled trial is an indicator of that. However, we may well see a set of indictments of major players before November. All of the issues will be fully resolved before the 2024 election, I am sure. That has been my sense of the timing all along. Is there agreement among the branches on timing? Probably not a formal one, but each branch knows what the others are doing, and timing is bound to be a factor. Are we impatient? Yes, we are. However, we are also not privy to the background planning of any of those branches. We demand action, and are annoyed that it doesn't come quickly enough. Still, when action occurs, it will set a number of important things into play. I am content, or at least tolerant of things playing out as they will. |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:56 AM
Seeking Serenity (2,616 posts)
3. Why today (as opposed to any other day)?
Actually, IMO, it would not be a good day, today being a Friday going into a three-day weekend. That's when you dump stories you want to get lost and generally ignored.
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Response to Seeking Serenity (Reply #3)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:11 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
5. Every day. Any day.
Some day.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:00 PM
Ocelot II (105,750 posts)
4. Any day would be a good day.
But preferably not on a Friday. That sort of thing works best on Mondays and Tuesdays when there's plenty of media coverage.
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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #4)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:12 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
6. It could be Sunday afternoon and it would get plenty of media.
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:31 PM
USALiberal (10,832 posts)
10. And wear a mask! Nt
Response to USALiberal (Reply #10)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:33 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
12. Ahhahaha.
Sure. Let’s add that to the pile.
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