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Today would be a good day to indict Donald John Trump (Original Post) SoonerPride Jun 2022 OP
That will never happen. Trump could, in fact, shoot comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #1
Is there a current federal grand jury hearing testimony on this? MineralMan Jun 2022 #2
That's true per indictment. H2O Man Jun 2022 #7
It seems highly unlikely that the DOJ would use either of those alternatives MineralMan Jun 2022 #8
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #9
I fully understand how the DOJ works. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #11
I don't doubt that you do. MineralMan Jun 2022 #13
Why today (as opposed to any other day)? Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #3
Every day. Any day. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #5
Any day would be a good day. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #4
It could be Sunday afternoon and it would get plenty of media. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #6
And wear a mask! Nt USALiberal Jun 2022 #10
Ahhahaha. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #12

MineralMan

(146,364 posts)
2. Is there a current federal grand jury hearing testimony on this?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jun 2022

I am not aware of one. Only a grand jury can indict someone in a federal case. That is how it works.

H2O Man

(73,720 posts)
7. That's true per indictment.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jun 2022

It is unlikely the public would know if there is a grand jury considering Trump etc. The DOJ isn't limited to indictments, though; they can use either a "criminal information" or "criminal complaint" to press federal charges.

MineralMan

(146,364 posts)
8. It seems highly unlikely that the DOJ would use either of those alternatives
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jun 2022

in a case involving a former President. I can't imagine them doing that, actually. You're right, of course, about public knowledge of sitting federal grand juries. We don't know what grand juries are seated, nor what they are considering.

Is there an active one regarding Trump? I doubt it, at the present time. That will be a special case, no doubt.

My reply, really, was just to bring up the whole indictment thing. Some people don't know much about indictments and how they happen. That occurred to me on reading the OP of this thread.

H2O Man

(73,720 posts)
9. Right.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jun 2022

If anything, there might be an investigative grand jury that is focused on those not directly involved in the riot, though not Trump specifically. And I agree with you on both posts ..... just trying to spark conversations, as they tend to bring out the best in DU.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
11. I fully understand how the DOJ works.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

They have had more than enough time to impanel a grand jury and indict a criminal.

Today would be a good day to act.

Stop dithering.

MineralMan

(146,364 posts)
13. I don't doubt that you do.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:17 PM
Jun 2022

However, given the separation of powers and some sense of professional courtesy, I do anticipate an indictment of Donald J. Trump before the House Committee wraps up its schedule. I think sometime in September has been mentioned. I doubt that AG Garland will want to step on the committee's toes by acting before then.

From outside of all of this, I think we often forget the etiquette that generally holds among the three branches of federal government. While they are not openly coordinating with each other, all parties are certainly aware of what is going on in all three. We have a sense of urgency, being out of the loop entirely. However, there is likely a respectful lack of urgency at the DOJ in light of the ongoing Committee activities.

The interplay between the branches is a delicate one, and has a traditional, yet unwritten, dance card. Separate, but equal, each branch takes its turn on the floor.

In the end, nothing will be completed before this November's elections. Navarro's scheduled trial is an indicator of that. However, we may well see a set of indictments of major players before November. All of the issues will be fully resolved before the 2024 election, I am sure. That has been my sense of the timing all along. Is there agreement among the branches on timing? Probably not a formal one, but each branch knows what the others are doing, and timing is bound to be a factor.

Are we impatient? Yes, we are. However, we are also not privy to the background planning of any of those branches. We demand action, and are annoyed that it doesn't come quickly enough. Still, when action occurs, it will set a number of important things into play. I am content, or at least tolerant of things playing out as they will.

Seeking Serenity

(2,844 posts)
3. Why today (as opposed to any other day)?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

Actually, IMO, it would not be a good day, today being a Friday going into a three-day weekend. That's when you dump stories you want to get lost and generally ignored.

Ocelot II

(116,079 posts)
4. Any day would be a good day.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jun 2022

But preferably not on a Friday. That sort of thing works best on Mondays and Tuesdays when there's plenty of media coverage.

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