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mobeau69

(11,138 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:55 PM Jun 2022

A frightening thought keeps reoccurring to me! It's the image of

of those traitors actually hanging Pence or Nancy in the gallows they built in front of the Capitol. Anyone who thinks, if given the chance, they wouldn’t have done just that has no understanding of mob mentality.

Think about that picture for a minute.

OMG.

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A frightening thought keeps reoccurring to me! It's the image of (Original Post) mobeau69 Jun 2022 OP
And That Still Wouldn't Have Been Enough For TFG To Be Held Accountable nt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #1
It would be the Capitol instead of Fifth Avenue. AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #18
Meh, that gallows was a prop... Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #2
They would have torn Pelosi apart limb from limb SoonerPride Jun 2022 #4
A typical 4x4 x 10 can support approximately 3.5 to 4.5 thousand lbs. vertically. mobeau69 Jun 2022 #7
Ah yes, the old "it wasn't a real hangman's noose or gallows" trope. #1 strangulation works as well Hekate Jun 2022 #11
They're cowards GenThePerservering Jun 2022 #3
You aren't paying attention. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #5
The danger to Pelosi and Pence GenThePerservering Jun 2022 #20
IMO, you are extemely naive. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #6
Dangerous, naive, and perhaps wishful thinking intrepidity Jun 2022 #8
There have been a few plots,, out of Mich and WI, by these kind of Trump supporters to kill Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #12
You mean the Vice President & the Speaker of the House? That is the line of succession, folks... Hekate Jun 2022 #9
Yes this was the plan. Like in the old days, killing off all those in line for the throne. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #13
Since TFG always makes things personal, it was easy for him to project hate on Pelosi and Pence... Hekate Jun 2022 #16
I think he made it very personal after someone explained how the system works. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #17
I was more scared for our country that day watching it unfold, Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #10
I felt like I was watching the Reichstag burn. I've been to many protests, from Main Street to D.C. Hekate Jun 2022 #14
Nope, it was all solidarity songs, laughter, and petitions. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #15
I posted a long time ago something to the effect LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #19
I think it would have been worse GenThePerservering Jun 2022 #21

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
2. Meh, that gallows was a prop...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:00 PM
Jun 2022

it didn't look like it would hold up to more than 25 lbs of weight.

They would have used other means.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. They would have torn Pelosi apart limb from limb
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:07 PM
Jun 2022

They are monsters and would have behaved like monsters

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
11. Ah yes, the old "it wasn't a real hangman's noose or gallows" trope. #1 strangulation works as well
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jun 2022

…as a broken neck, it just takes longer; and #2 a tree limb or a balcony works as well as a gallows.

Did you watch the videos of the mob at all? They were out for blood and murder.

GenThePerservering

(1,797 posts)
3. They're cowards
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jun 2022

and would never hang anyone or kidnap anyone. That stupid noose was just theatre - it's an old protest trope that wasn't even done well.

The mentality of that entire insurrection can be summed up in two images: The idiot in Pelosi's office taking one of her letters and then posing with it with a stupid grin on his face, like a 12-year-old that pulled a prank.

And the idiot carrying off the lectern and waving.

They're spoiled children.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
5. You aren't paying attention.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jun 2022

They would have killed as many Democrats as they could get their hands on.

They came armed for and ready to do it.

GenThePerservering

(1,797 posts)
20. The danger to Pelosi and Pence
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jun 2022

would have lain with those who were manipulating that mob - mobs don't think, particularly this one, but there was organisation behind it - previous recon, dirty money - it's all coming out. The coup was very well organised, and that mob of rubes and idiots were simply a tool. IF they had got their hands on Pelosi and Pence, they would have been forced to retain them, keep them alive, as hostages. At that point, the organisers (Repubs) would be holding a pretty full hand.

No - I'm not naive nor stupid. Mob behaviour has not changed in thousands of years - look for the real danger, that people behind the mob.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
6. IMO, you are extemely naive.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jun 2022

That was a MOB of angry people. Did you not watch the video? They would have raped and murdered Nancy Pelosi without a second thought. Just wow.

intrepidity

(7,288 posts)
8. Dangerous, naive, and perhaps wishful thinking
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jun 2022

Mobs have a whole different dynamic that can escalate quickly out of control and beyond what any individual thought themselves capable of.

Bluethroughu

(5,148 posts)
12. There have been a few plots,, out of Mich and WI, by these kind of Trump supporters to kill
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jun 2022

Rape and kidnap their Democratic enemies and their sympathizers.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
9. You mean the Vice President & the Speaker of the House? That is the line of succession, folks...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jun 2022

This wasn’t about personal dislike of “Pence” and “Nancy.” Trump was actually going to have the two people murdered who were closest in line to succeed him to the Presidency.

How about them apples?


Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
13. Yes this was the plan. Like in the old days, killing off all those in line for the throne.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jun 2022

Someone had to explain it very carefully to Trump.

No way he could have figured this out all by himself.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
16. Since TFG always makes things personal, it was easy for him to project hate on Pelosi and Pence...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jun 2022

And it was all too easy for us and for those reporting the news to overlook the part where he was trying to kill off (say the titles) the VP and Speaker. I think he knew there were multiple reasons they were in his way, and he just went for it.

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
17. I think he made it very personal after someone explained how the system works.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jun 2022

Someone had to explain it to him carefully many times.

He hates so many people, someone had to tell him which people to hate leading up to 1/6.

Pelosi was easy for him, he has hated her a long time.

Pence he was always disgusted with, had no liking or respect for.
But those feelings turned to hatred when Pence would not do his bidding.

Bluethroughu

(5,148 posts)
10. I was more scared for our country that day watching it unfold,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jun 2022

Than 9/11.

It was like watching the Nazis burn down the German government building, before they went full frontal on the Germans, then the world.

I sincerely hope the white gloves come off for those being convicted of Sedition. No more picketing or protesting convictions.

I've been to many protests some with 10s of thousands and Nothing happened but singing, chanting and walking with the baby strollers.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
14. I felt like I was watching the Reichstag burn. I've been to many protests, from Main Street to D.C.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jun 2022

Not one of them promised violence or had that vibe.

Bluethroughu

(5,148 posts)
15. Nope, it was all solidarity songs, laughter, and petitions.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

That insurrection was an attack on our country by a bunch of haters of America. That's why they fly the Trump flag.

LuckyCharms

(17,421 posts)
19. I posted a long time ago something to the effect
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:40 PM
Jun 2022

that if they reached any congress people, there would be body parts flying down the hallway. They would have torn them apart.

If I remember correctly, I think I got a bit of flak for that post...but I'm not quite sure.

I'm assuming I would get no flak today, knowing what we do now.

I too draw the same picture in my mind. It would have been horrible.

GenThePerservering

(1,797 posts)
21. I think it would have been worse
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:32 PM
Jun 2022

they would have been taken as hostages - there was a direction and some leadership in that rabble, and a lot of distraction. Rather than instant bloody reprisal for killing leaders in the hallways, or kidnapping for some kind of formal execution, this country would have been locked in an agonizing battle of negotiation with succession held at gunpoint.

They're playing the long game here, and came very close to pulling it off.

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