Rosenburg said (in regards to an actual trial conviction, which is a high standard) the fact that Trump was told about the Electoral Count Act, etc is dispositive, but as it stands, you have to make an inference (an inference is non dispositive) so far that Trump fully understood that what he was doing was illegal under the law (in terms of showing mens rea). To fully convict you need to show that he understood fully that what he was doing was absolutely illegal. Rosenberg said that one of the most common take-downs of Trump is how stupid he is, so there needs to be sufficient dispositive evidence that he absolutely understood the illegality of his actions across the board (to get a conviction).
Chuck Rosenberg is an American attorney. He formerly served as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) and for the Southern District of Texas, as a senior FBI official on the staff of two FBI Directors, as Counselor to the Attorney General, as the Chief of Staff to the Deputy Attorney General, as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in EDVA in Norfolk and Alexandria, and as the former acting Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration.
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