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RandySF

(58,728 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:18 PM Jun 2022

Debbie Dingell Says Loudermilk Gave Multiple Tours

Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) told MSNBC that she saw Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) giving tours of the Capitol “the day before the certification was going to take place” on January 6, 2021.

Said Dingell: “There was a whole group of visitors. We weren’t even supposed to have visitors inside of the complex… They weren’t wearing masks and I was irritated enough that went over and complained to the police.”

She added: “There were tours and I was a witness to more than one.”



https://politicalwire.com/2022/06/17/debbie-dingell-says-loudermilk-gave-multiple-tours/

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Debbie Dingell Says Loudermilk Gave Multiple Tours (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2022 OP
Time to change his story again SheltieLover Jun 2022 #1
"Now which tour did I lie and say I didn't do?" viva la Jun 2022 #5
Right... SheltieLover Jun 2022 #29
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #39
did she actually say both were laudermilk? i only saw the end of it but it didn't sound like she certainot Jun 2022 #46
you're correct. people are 'assuming' (not for the first time) -(nt)- stopdiggin Jun 2022 #62
"It was a much larger family than I remembered." Pinback Jun 2022 #20
Bazinga! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #30
And file another bogus ethics complaint. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #55
Time for a reporter to ask him who gave him permission Emile Jun 2022 #2
Time to ask the Capitol police for a list of the names of the "visitors" and a FBI interview. Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #3
Well said. OnDoutside Jun 2022 #4
I wonder why it hasn't already been done? Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #35
Unless said logs simply don't exist, which is another can of worms... NullTuples Jun 2022 #37
No kidding! calimary Jun 2022 #58
How do we know it hasn't already been done? soldierant Jun 2022 #47
Hopefully the committee has that list. LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #64
ya know, i went to both obama inaugurations. mopinko Jun 2022 #6
Yes but this was not inaugural week. It was still two plus weeks away. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author EYESORE 9001 Jun 2022 #15
And they were closed to tours due to covid Nevilledog Jun 2022 #23
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #7
:) They'll all be on video obtained by the committee, and almost Hortensis Jun 2022 #8
They probably already know who these assholes are. rubbersole Jun 2022 #13
In the tour that was shown by the Jan 6th committee, it was evident the kids were for cover. patphil Jun 2022 #10
Like bringing the baby & stroller along for the shoplifting outing... Hekate Jun 2022 #40
That got a chuckle. patphil Jun 2022 #45
Where is the FBI? These people are a national security risk. onecaliberal Jun 2022 #11
Exactly, you get it, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #28
I don't know why elected Dems are not demanding these people be prosecuted. onecaliberal Jun 2022 #38
I bet many at the FBI are tRumpsters. BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #51
do any of them hold clearances as part of their jobs as reps? DBoon Jun 2022 #54
it does not work that way. drray23 Jun 2022 #60
How many tours did they gave prior to right before January 6th? JanMichael Jun 2022 #12
The Capitol was supposed to be closed to tours, so they shouldn't have been giving any. nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #14
I know but since he did a couple why not more before? Just one more lie to have him create. JanMichael Jun 2022 #21
Cal the fbi, get his email and phone data, and his computers lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #16
Waiting for DOJ to get ducks in a row, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #31
Treason sarcasmo Jun 2022 #17
So this wasn't investigated previously and thus known to the Committee and the DOJ? jalan48 Jun 2022 #18
Previous tours Lilaclady Jun 2022 #19
Welcome to DU, Lilaclady! calimary Jun 2022 #26
The head of the Capitol police, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #32
Extremely rare for member to personally give tour OrangeJoe Jun 2022 #43
Yes he needs to be asked this. Captain Zero Jun 2022 #56
The problem we face is Republicans are not held to the rule of law. GentryDixon Jun 2022 #22
I hear you, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #33
no, all they need is 1500 radio stations and fox, while the left ignores it, yr after yr and the certainot Jun 2022 #44
that's it exactly stopdiggin Jun 2022 #61
Kick dalton99a Jun 2022 #24
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #25
Rep Mikie Sherrill's letter asking for an investigation of Deminpenn Jun 2022 #27
Why only 33? gab13by13 Jun 2022 #34
K&R UTUSN Jun 2022 #36
This seems to me, to be our time at the precipice. Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #42
Seems like they would be on cam if they did Captain Zero Jun 2022 #48
If our FBI can't figure this out with everything Captain Zero Jun 2022 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #52
I had no idea there was such a public interst in stairwells. BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #50
The word "Housecleaning" has an additional meaning now DFW Jun 2022 #57
Indeed wendyb-NC Jun 2022 #66
Traitor Snackshack Jun 2022 #59
Has the AG tried him, Loudermilk? tanyev Jun 2022 #63
This republican let rioters in... Police blocked them. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #65
Inside Jobbers Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #68
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
46. did she actually say both were laudermilk? i only saw the end of it but it didn't sound like she
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:48 PM
Jun 2022

said that and if she says she saw two and both aren't laudermilk then she saw one of the other usual suspects.

all the congresspeople who saw those would have been interviewed and she wouldn't want to name the other knowing it would come out.

i hope earlier in the interview she didn't say both were laudermilk

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
20. "It was a much larger family than I remembered."
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jun 2022

“There were a number of children. But none of Herschel Walker’s, to be clear.”

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
55. And file another bogus ethics complaint.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:02 AM
Jun 2022

He is the epitome of all the RW's blatant dishonesty, hypocrisy, and projection.

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
64. Hopefully the committee has that list.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

Have to wonder too if the Capitol Police included who approved the visitors too. If they didn't why not?

mopinko

(70,071 posts)
6. ya know, i went to both obama inaugurations.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:34 PM
Jun 2022

in '12 i had tickets i had to pick up at my rep's office.
it's an absolutely insane week at the capitol. no nobody gets facetime w their rep, let alone a guided tour by other than staff. there sure dont get jack shit w/o identifying themselves.
does.not.happen.

cap police f'ed this big time.
heads need to roll.

Response to jimfields33 (Reply #9)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. :) They'll all be on video obtained by the committee, and almost
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jun 2022

certainly by the DOJ. Just like the sample presented to us at the hearing.

But in any case, we know that the house committee has interviewed over 1000 people and that the very close-mouthed DOJ has requested transcripts.

Chuck Rosenberg believes both will have interviewed (many of) the same people and the biggest reason the DOJ would want the house's documentation would be to look for discrepancies between their respective interviews of people they plan to prosecute.

rubbersole

(6,684 posts)
13. They probably already know who these assholes are.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jun 2022

Over 1,000 witness interviews...they had to sign in somewhere. I hope they get them all.

patphil

(6,164 posts)
10. In the tour that was shown by the Jan 6th committee, it was evident the kids were for cover.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:23 PM
Jun 2022

To make it look like the tour was legit.

patphil

(6,164 posts)
45. That got a chuckle.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:38 PM
Jun 2022

Honey, I'm taking the kids out for a little recon, I mean civics lesson, in the Capitol. We should be back in a couple days...or not, depends on how it goes.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
28. Exactly, you get it,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jun 2022

the FBI should have confiscated all of the video, or are they waiting for the select committee to turn over what it has?

Going after Magats will appear to be partisan.

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
54. do any of them hold clearances as part of their jobs as reps?
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:04 AM
Jun 2022

If so, these should be revoked immediately

drray23

(7,627 posts)
60. it does not work that way.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

elected officials get clearance by virtue of being elected, they do not need to go through a specific clearance process like others. They see the intel as needed. Meaning, those on intelligence committee will be able to see it without having to go through a vetting process.

JanMichael

(24,881 posts)
12. How many tours did they gave prior to right before January 6th?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jun 2022

Like you know what's the daily average? Or the monthly average? There's got to be record of this. So if dipshit only gives 10 tours a year than all the sudden gives five on the day before and it's pretty much proven what he was doing.

lindysalsagal

(20,648 posts)
16. Cal the fbi, get his email and phone data, and his computers
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jun 2022

He's giving reasonable probability for arrest. If the idiots got arrested, charged, and convicted, this guy was that so-called back channel.

Lilaclady

(71 posts)
19. Previous tours
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:59 PM
Jun 2022

How many tours has he personally conducted for people he doesn’t know during his time in office? Doesn’t he have legislative work to do? How often do legislators conduct hours long personally guided tours?

calimary

(81,194 posts)
26. Welcome to DU, Lilaclady!
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:39 PM
Jun 2022

All good questions.

Now, who do we have to see for some honest answers? I think we should be asking everybody, everywhere, who is, or might be, in a position to know (or know WHO knows). And we shouldn't shut up about it til we get some confirmed answers from some objectively reliable sources.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
32. The head of the Capitol police,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jun 2022

who stated he saw nothing out of the ordinary, needs to testify to someone under oath.

OrangeJoe

(332 posts)
43. Extremely rare for member to personally give tour
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

I worked for a Senator, so it was even more unlikely that the member would give a tour himself as everyone in the state was a constituent. However, the only time I saw him give a tour was to the family of a young man who died in the Iraq war (which my boss voted against so it was doubly awkward.)

GentryDixon

(2,948 posts)
22. The problem we face is Republicans are not held to the rule of law.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jun 2022

They know they can get away with their lies, as they have the entire media complex to protect them.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
33. I hear you,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jun 2022

wish we had a couple of honest billionaires who would start a cable news network that didn't just push a right wing narrative.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
44. no, all they need is 1500 radio stations and fox, while the left ignores it, yr after yr and the
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:36 PM
Jun 2022

rest of the media follows the national buzz thinking it's legit instead of manufactured merely because the victims of it's lies ignore it - the biggest political mistake in history continues

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
61. that's it exactly
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jun 2022

Remember when the representatives were 'crashing' the metal detectors that were install at chamber doors? People keep saying "and the Capital was closed to tours during Covid." That's for people who care to obey the rules! That doesn't include this crowd. So what are the police really suppose to do when do when a rep shows up with 5 people in tow? "Its' alright, they're with me Jerry."

Hammerlock and frog march the elected official to the exits?

Deminpenn

(15,273 posts)
27. Rep Mikie Sherrill's letter asking for an investigation of
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

the tours had 33 co-signers, who, iirc, had also seen groups of people touring the Capitol before Jan 6th.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
41. This seems to me, to be our time at the precipice.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jun 2022

These defective people trying to break everything in sight with absolutely no plan for the future (any future) must be stopped at all costs. The pawns; proud boys, patriotic (psychotic) front, kkk (what's left of those sick fucks), oath (definitely 'oaf') keepers, et al, are for the most part the dregs of society. They don't realize they're being played to do the dirty work and ultimately pay the price. The instigators, they continue to come up with more insanity while laughing all night long. Sipping cognac, brandy, REALLY good bourbon on the rocks, they scheme, they scam, they really don't give a fart, shart or even an entire actual shit about this country or its future. Money... power... that's it.

Don't bother protesting the likes of Moscow Mitch, Radical Rand, Cornyn, DeathSentence, etc. Go straight to the HQ's of the gougers. Go to Wall Street and/or any other stock exchange. Harass the traders and speculators. Endless, non-stop. They may only be the messengers in this case but, they're some of the major cogs that facilitates all this madness.

I'm too poor to mount a significant front by myself but, there are actually millions of us. I always vote straight D. No purity tests, no qualms (unless we know they're a POD in sheep's clothing). I have no problem with joining with anyone in my area to push the issue. In my mind that's, just what kind of society do we really want to live in? Take a good long look at the cold, hard realities we experience every day. We can do better.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Captain Zero

(6,800 posts)
48. Seems like they would be on cam if they did
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:00 PM
Jun 2022

But what I noticed in loudermilks 'tour' I saw was that one person was talking to him. One. Like keeping him distracted while other adults were straying away from him and snapping pictures while the ONE kid acted all ADHD to me.

Then I saw Lowdermilk interviewed and his excuse was well there were KIDS on the tour. (and he said THEY were really interested in the TROLLEY CARS members use !) I didn't see that kid interested in anything. He was bouncing off the walls.....but I think the adults were interested. Hmmm The trolley cars members ride in between the Capitol and the offices, ya don't say, hmmm? I can't imagine why insurrectionists would be interested in the TROLLEY cars THE MEMBERS MOVE ABOUT IN.

Captain Zero

(6,800 posts)
49. If our FBI can't figure this out with everything
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:03 PM
Jun 2022

They have at their disposal then they are a bunch of stupid fucks or they are in on it.

Response to Captain Zero (Reply #49)

Response to Captain Zero (Reply #48)

wendyb-NC

(3,320 posts)
66. Indeed
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jun 2022

The people hired by tfg, that are still in place should be scrutinized, if not given their walking papers.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
59. Traitor
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jun 2022

This entire event was throughly planned. It is only blind luck that they ended up being too incompetent to carry it out effectively.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
63. Has the AG tried him, Loudermilk?
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

Has the AG tried him, Loudermilk?
Well, if the AG tries him I sure hope he will confine him
Could be this plot will bite him, Loudermilk.

Heavens, he’s hasty. And seditious.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
65. This republican let rioters in... Police blocked them.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:56 PM
Jun 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214899710

Oregon state representative fined, told to resign by House speaker after letting rioters into bldg
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Rep. Mike Nearman helps right-wing demonstrators breach Oregon Capitol

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017630872

Kid Berwyn

(14,863 posts)
67. Inside Jobbers
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jun 2022

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.” — Marcus Tullius Cicero

Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #67)

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