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Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) told MSNBC that she saw Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) giving tours of the Capitol the day before the certification was going to take place on January 6, 2021.
Said Dingell: There was a whole group of visitors. We werent even supposed to have visitors inside of the complex
They werent wearing masks and I was irritated enough that went over and complained to the police.
She added: There were tours and I was a witness to more than one.
https://politicalwire.com/2022/06/17/debbie-dingell-says-loudermilk-gave-multiple-tours/
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)viva la
(3,284 posts)"I didn't do those others either!"
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)said that and if she says she saw two and both aren't laudermilk then she saw one of the other usual suspects.
all the congresspeople who saw those would have been interviewed and she wouldn't want to name the other knowing it would come out.
i hope earlier in the interview she didn't say both were laudermilk
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)Pinback
(12,154 posts)There were a number of children. But none of Herschel Walkers, to be clear.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)He is the epitome of all the RW's blatant dishonesty, hypocrisy, and projection.
Emile
(22,639 posts)to have these tours.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)calimary
(81,194 posts)soldierant
(6,846 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)Have to wonder too if the Capitol Police included who approved the visitors too. If they didn't why not?
mopinko
(70,071 posts)in '12 i had tickets i had to pick up at my rep's office.
it's an absolutely insane week at the capitol. no nobody gets facetime w their rep, let alone a guided tour by other than staff. there sure dont get jack shit w/o identifying themselves.
does.not.happen.
cap police f'ed this big time.
heads need to roll.
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Nevilledog
(51,064 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,086 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)certainly by the DOJ. Just like the sample presented to us at the hearing.
But in any case, we know that the house committee has interviewed over 1000 people and that the very close-mouthed DOJ has requested transcripts.
Chuck Rosenberg believes both will have interviewed (many of) the same people and the biggest reason the DOJ would want the house's documentation would be to look for discrepancies between their respective interviews of people they plan to prosecute.
rubbersole
(6,684 posts)Over 1,000 witness interviews...they had to sign in somewhere. I hope they get them all.
patphil
(6,164 posts)To make it look like the tour was legit.
Hekate
(90,633 posts)patphil
(6,164 posts)Honey, I'm taking the kids out for a little recon, I mean civics lesson, in the Capitol. We should be back in a couple days...or not, depends on how it goes.
onecaliberal
(32,814 posts)gab13by13
(21,290 posts)the FBI should have confiscated all of the video, or are they waiting for the select committee to turn over what it has?
Going after Magats will appear to be partisan.
onecaliberal
(32,814 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)There will be no justice.
DBoon
(22,354 posts)If so, these should be revoked immediately
drray23
(7,627 posts)elected officials get clearance by virtue of being elected, they do not need to go through a specific clearance process like others. They see the intel as needed. Meaning, those on intelligence committee will be able to see it without having to go through a vetting process.
JanMichael
(24,881 posts)Like you know what's the daily average? Or the monthly average? There's got to be record of this. So if dipshit only gives 10 tours a year than all the sudden gives five on the day before and it's pretty much proven what he was doing.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)JanMichael
(24,881 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)He's giving reasonable probability for arrest. If the idiots got arrested, charged, and convicted, this guy was that so-called back channel.
gab13by13
(21,290 posts)gives them time to cover their tracks and come up with a tale.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)Lilaclady
(71 posts)How many tours has he personally conducted for people he doesnt know during his time in office? Doesnt he have legislative work to do? How often do legislators conduct hours long personally guided tours?
calimary
(81,194 posts)All good questions.
Now, who do we have to see for some honest answers? I think we should be asking everybody, everywhere, who is, or might be, in a position to know (or know WHO knows). And we shouldn't shut up about it til we get some confirmed answers from some objectively reliable sources.
gab13by13
(21,290 posts)who stated he saw nothing out of the ordinary, needs to testify to someone under oath.
OrangeJoe
(332 posts)I worked for a Senator, so it was even more unlikely that the member would give a tour himself as everyone in the state was a constituent. However, the only time I saw him give a tour was to the family of a young man who died in the Iraq war (which my boss voted against so it was doubly awkward.)
Captain Zero
(6,800 posts)And congress in general can answer how often this is done by members.
GentryDixon
(2,948 posts)They know they can get away with their lies, as they have the entire media complex to protect them.
gab13by13
(21,290 posts)wish we had a couple of honest billionaires who would start a cable news network that didn't just push a right wing narrative.
certainot
(9,090 posts)rest of the media follows the national buzz thinking it's legit instead of manufactured merely because the victims of it's lies ignore it - the biggest political mistake in history continues
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)Remember when the representatives were 'crashing' the metal detectors that were install at chamber doors? People keep saying "and the Capital was closed to tours during Covid." That's for people who care to obey the rules! That doesn't include this crowd. So what are the police really suppose to do when do when a rep shows up with 5 people in tow? "Its' alright, they're with me Jerry."
Hammerlock and frog march the elected official to the exits?
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Thank you for this.
Deminpenn
(15,273 posts)the tours had 33 co-signers, who, iirc, had also seen groups of people touring the Capitol before Jan 6th.
gab13by13
(21,290 posts)Did they actually have to see tours to be a co-signer?
Mr. Evil
(2,839 posts)These defective people trying to break everything in sight with absolutely no plan for the future (any future) must be stopped at all costs. The pawns; proud boys, patriotic (psychotic) front, kkk (what's left of those sick fucks), oath (definitely 'oaf') keepers, et al, are for the most part the dregs of society. They don't realize they're being played to do the dirty work and ultimately pay the price. The instigators, they continue to come up with more insanity while laughing all night long. Sipping cognac, brandy, REALLY good bourbon on the rocks, they scheme, they scam, they really don't give a fart, shart or even an entire actual shit about this country or its future. Money... power... that's it.
Don't bother protesting the likes of Moscow Mitch, Radical Rand, Cornyn, DeathSentence, etc. Go straight to the HQ's of the gougers. Go to Wall Street and/or any other stock exchange. Harass the traders and speculators. Endless, non-stop. They may only be the messengers in this case but, they're some of the major cogs that facilitates all this madness.
I'm too poor to mount a significant front by myself but, there are actually millions of us. I always vote straight D. No purity tests, no qualms (unless we know they're a POD in sheep's clothing). I have no problem with joining with anyone in my area to push the issue. In my mind that's, just what kind of society do we really want to live in? Take a good long look at the cold, hard realities we experience every day. We can do better.
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Captain Zero
(6,800 posts)But what I noticed in loudermilks 'tour' I saw was that one person was talking to him. One. Like keeping him distracted while other adults were straying away from him and snapping pictures while the ONE kid acted all ADHD to me.
Then I saw Lowdermilk interviewed and his excuse was well there were KIDS on the tour. (and he said THEY were really interested in the TROLLEY CARS members use !) I didn't see that kid interested in anything. He was bouncing off the walls.....but I think the adults were interested. Hmmm The trolley cars members ride in between the Capitol and the offices, ya don't say, hmmm? I can't imagine why insurrectionists would be interested in the TROLLEY cars THE MEMBERS MOVE ABOUT IN.
Captain Zero
(6,800 posts)They have at their disposal then they are a bunch of stupid fucks or they are in on it.
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BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)This dude must go down in flames!
DFW
(54,335 posts)And it was never more urgently nedded.
The people hired by tfg, that are still in place should be scrutinized, if not given their walking papers.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)This entire event was throughly planned. It is only blind luck that they ended up being too incompetent to carry it out effectively.
tanyev
(42,541 posts)Has the AG tried him, Loudermilk?
Well, if the AG tries him I sure hope he will confine him
Could be this plot will bite him, Loudermilk.
Heavens, hes hasty. And seditious.
keithbvadu2
(36,747 posts)Oregon state representative fined, told to resign by House speaker after letting rioters into bldg
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Kid Berwyn
(14,863 posts)A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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