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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:18 PM Jun 2022

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the whole idea of a "pardon list" bizarre?

"Yeah, I'd like to be, uh, added to that pardon list before, uh, we leave the White House..."

It''s almost funny. I said "almost."

I didn't even hear it during Watergate.

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Ocelot II

(115,670 posts)
1. Nixon had the opposite, an extensive enemies list.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jun 2022

But it seems that Jared was compiling a pardon list, and I bet TFG was keeping track of who was doing favors for him and who was the most successful at furthering the Big Lie. If you did well you got a pardon, like Oprah handing out cars, but Eastman didn't get one because his plan didn't work. I'd love to know who else was on the list and which members of Congress also asked to be on it.

viva la

(3,285 posts)
10. well, we do know who Trump publically pardoned---
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jun 2022

Names I recognize as connected to Trump crimes-- (Kushner Sr just payoff to Jared, some of the others maybe just GOP buddies, and some are "clemency" not pardons)
There might be more here-
https://www.nytimes.com/article/who-did-trump-pardon.html


Bernard B. Kerik
George Papadopoulos
Alex van der Zwaan
Roger Joseph Stone Jr.
Michael T. Flynn
Paul J. Manafort
Charles Kushner
Paul Erickson
Elliott Broidy
Albert J. Pirro, Jr. (Jeanine's hub?)
Nicholas Slatten (Blackwater murderer-- pay off to Erik Prince, no doubt)
Stephen K. Bannon
Dinesh D’Souza
Duncan Hunter
Chris Collins
Steve Stockman
(he also pardoned several rappers.... maybe at the behest of Kanye and Kim?)


flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
2. Particularly bizarre considering they come from a twice-impeached president.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jun 2022

The inability to emit valid pardons should be curtailed after even the first impeachment.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
3. I feel that a kind of personal pardon list very corrupt
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:26 PM
Jun 2022

I think most White Houses have such a list, but it is drawn up by some professionals in the White House. The list would probably be of people who for some reason some group in the WH thought had been wrongly sentenced or who had suffered some miscarriage of justice by most standards.

The idea of pardons as a presidential favor is something else entirely.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
4. Funny how Trump is still dangling pardons.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jun 2022

It's like the old pictures of the cart driver holding a long stick on which a carrot dangled in front of a donkey, to get the donkey to move forward to where the driver wanted to go.
But in reality the donkey is an elephant...a supremely dumb elephant, but certainly NOT a donkey.

bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
6. Pardons were meant for righting injustice, humanitarian clemency, for good will - of past crimes
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jun 2022

Specific crimes. No blanket pardons. That's absurd.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
7. Not bizarre, considering it was Trump's CYA Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free Ticket.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jun 2022

More political leverage, if not financial compensation, for his "mercy".

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. You know who didn't need a "pardon list"?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jun 2022

Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden. Basically any Democratic President in the last century.

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