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WARNING! Hyperbole below!
I edited to make the counterproposals less extreme, but please, no more milquetoast.
Thanks!
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Democratic leadership always seems to be painted into a corner.
How about proposing
A bill that eliminates the capital gains tax, AND BANS ASSAULT WEAPONS.
LET THE BASTARDS VOTE IT DOWN.
A bill that doubles oil and gas subsidies, AND GUARANTEES REPODUCTIVE RIGHTS.
LET THE BASTARDS VOTE IT DOWN.
A bill that pardons all Jan 6 participants, AND GUARANTEES VOTING RIGHTS.
LET THE BASTARDS VOTE IT DOWN.
And so on.
How can we let bozos with the emotional and mental maturity of a 4 year-old outfox us? (they're an insult to 4-year olds)
From DKos:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/17/2104746/-WTF-Democratic-Leadership
WTF, Democratic Leadership?
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Honestly, you really dont get this? No bill is going to pass. So define Republicans with it and energize your base by growing a spine. Dare Repubicans block it. They dont think you have the stones. Then when they do, go on every news program on cable, on every Sunday talk show, and write Op-Eds in every newspaper from now until the midterms about how Republicans are blocking meaningful gun legislation. Say it in a few words without going into the weeds. Heres an example:
Democrats have passed a common sense gun reform bill supported by the overwhelming majority of Americans. Repubicans have blocked it at every turn because they value guns more than the lives of our children. Republicans wont even agree to debate it!
And for crying out loud, use the word Republican.
Not Congress.
Not GOP.
And for fuck sake, not Our friends on the other side of the isle.
Republicans.
Republicans are the hold up.
Republicans are extreme.
Republicans are why we cant have nice things.
Republicans are why our kids are being slaughtered in our schools.
Honestly Democrats, its just not that fucking hard. Our kids are dying.
You want a true majority in the Senate not controlled by millionaire coal Barron Joe Manchin? Do this and maybe Democrats will have a chance.
Keep giving Republicans political cover and the ability to delay any action and were all toast.
unsnip
So, battling people who are COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE, and they outfox you?
lapfog_1
(29,189 posts)really?
usonian
(9,680 posts)Just let them vote down their own idiot causes for a change.
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keithbvadu2
(36,640 posts)Adam Clayton Powell used the threat of adding integration to bills to influence other legislation he favored.
Integration issues would kill whatever bill they were attached to.
ancianita
(35,926 posts)When voters see the Republican votes, will they show enough spine to GOTFV?
How does the DNC's lack of a fifty-state strategy help that? As we've seen from current primaries, the extreme isn't going away, and some of those states are not called battlegrounds.
Magoo48
(4,697 posts)rsdsharp
(9,135 posts)Something that is impossible under the Constitution, even if passed, is not a carrot, especially when paired with a stick.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Their voters do not follow proposed legislation, they simply believe whatever lie their member of Congress tells them. John Cornyn has already refused further discussions on gun safety because hes tired of negotiating. Im sure hes not tired of the PAC money gun manufacturers send his way.
Republicans cannot be embarrassed because they have no shame. Tactics like this will simply let Republicans portray Democrats as fools.
czarjak
(11,253 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,027 posts)No sense in giving away the store. You'll never get it back. I think this is bad strategy. The reason our Democratic leaders haven't done it is because there are things we value and we don't have to make a game of risking them all for a short term political gain.