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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, it happened again, a guy complaining about the price of gas...
I was just across the street, there is a combination liquor store/gas station there.
I was in the gas station part, buying one of the cheeseburgers they sell.
Guy storms in, cussing a blue streak, "I just put a hunnerd bucks in my gas tank!"
Continues cussing while paying.
Gives the guy at the counter one of those "I did this!" Biden stickers.
After the guy leaves, the counter guy throws it out.
I watched after the complainer left, sure enough, he gets into a HUGE pickup truck, by himself.
Drives off, his truck making a huge noise.
mucifer
(23,522 posts)Hoping things get better
aggiesal
(8,909 posts)COL Mustard
(5,893 posts)Controlled gas prices itd be a buck a gallon. No President wants to be saddled with high gas prices.
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)I found one of those stupid looking stickers on the gas pump I was using. I pulled it off and threw it in my car trash bag.
3 days later, I get a call from my bank saying there is suspicious activity on my card. Turns out, there was one of those electronic devices on the pump I used that steals your credit card numbers. The thief was trying to get breakfast at a Waffle House......I never eat there so easy call to deal with to cancel my card. I would have probably gotten them breakfast if they had asked.
So beware, those stickers maybe identying pumps with theft devices.....or not......
budkin
(6,699 posts)They're gross.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)...a private farm tank and fill it with the 1$ a gallon gas we had during the pandemic? he just looked at me....
MacKasey
(986 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Shows like the Walking Dead arent just not realistic because of the zombies. Unless they figured out how to keep making gas after the world fell apart, nobody would be driving after
we will be generous and say a few years.
At least that is how I understand it with gas life.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Making gasoline isnt that difficult, really.
If you can figure out how to make a still, you can make gasoline. Some basic principle.
Of course, you need the crude oil first!
You can also make alcohol fuels as well.
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Synthetic-Gasoline
So its not as if all gas would be gone after an apocalypse.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)I've never seen that aspect of exploitation explored in a zombie movie.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Perfect!
Ive been looking for a new purpose for my monster cauldron!
Jerry2144
(2,095 posts)I am hoping they discourage the purchase of these gashogs no one really needs and discourage the use of gas-powered power equipment (mowers etc) and recreational motor sports. All of those contribute hugely to pollution (VOCs, particulates, hydrocarbons, and of course carbon dioxide).
The sheer numbers of mondo-huge SUVs driving down the road with only one person is a problem. IF they would go to smaller cars that get 40-50 (or more) MPG or BEV/PHV and double up, we can reduce our demand for fuel and all the pollution by a significant amount.
It just sucks for people right now that can't afford to buy a new car, trade in their old to get a more efficient (and expensive) used car, and can't afford gas.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Time gas was way up they actually drove their small vehicles instead of their 150's.
onetexan
(13,033 posts)And for the batteries to have a much longer drive span before the need recharging for me to buy one. My crossover is not a gas guzzler. The hubby has a RAM 1500 that does have a large tank & he uses it for work travel. We're not complaining about the gas prices given its bc of basic supply/demand situation. Im hopong when we r ready to buy a new vehicle i have the option of getting one that we can travel long distance with.
AllyCat
(16,174 posts)And get hybrids or electrics. If this gets people to stop buying those hulks, we are all better.
Drove by a Toyota dealership in a nearby city. Not one vehicle for sale except the huge Tundras. Everything else sold. Or not in stock.
Jerry2144
(2,095 posts)Are focusing on making the huge gas hogs and not realizing there is a hidden demand for efficient vehicles.
We do drive too much as a society, but given that, we could be smarter about what we drive. If we can afford the cost. But people struggle to put food on the table, have a table under a roof.
We really need another New Deal settle aggressive progressive program
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Little Toyotas and Nissans and the old Ford Ranger.
Decent mileage, and as much truck as most people need.
Anymore, big truck, small johnson.
Jerry2144
(2,095 posts)I'd had a '72 Datsun pickup and an 88 Toyota 4X4 (inherited it). Small and nimble. Not the best mileage. But a small truck like that would meet most home owner's needs. If they would bring those back as electric or plug-in, I'd get one
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Greatest car/truck hybrid ever.
New Escapes are to stay wag and car like.
Drove my brother's Dodge little truck when I blew out my knee--my car was a stick shift then, his had an automatic. Loved that little truck.
Now, they all look like they're trying to be vehicle extras in the next Star Wars movie.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Maggiemayhem
(809 posts)JanMichael
(24,881 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,737 posts)I thought that super ironic, since the only reason we were in Iraq is because of our dependence on oil and Iraq and neighboring countries have lots of it. Burning (wasting) more oil to support fighting a war to get more oil seems silly to me.
My neighbors think I'm crazy.
aggiesal
(8,909 posts)Mopar151
(9,977 posts)Runs cooler, very high octane. Can be made to make mad power!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Mopar151
(9,977 posts)NBachers
(17,097 posts)Archae
(46,312 posts)1/3rd pound.
pwb
(11,258 posts)People bought Suvs for comfort. The fuel industry enjoys all our vacation money. The hospitality industry and all should be screming. Big oil is taking from everyones pursuit of happiness. I cut way back on driving. Fugum.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It is hard to overstate how profitable the war in Ukraine and the resulting financial pain have been for oil executives. Companies already benefited from inflated gas prices in 2021 as the economy bounced back from the COVID-19 pandemic shutdownsin fact, the top 25 companies made more than $205 billion in profits in 2021but the recently announced first-quarter profits for 2022 are even more astounding.
The top five oil companies aloneShell, ExxonMobil, BP, Chevron, and ConocoPhillipsbrought in more than 300 percent more in profits than in the first quarter of 2021.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)if they knew the U.S. is exporting oil? They always puffed up with pride when The Pig was in office and petro was cheap. Drill baby drill! Oh, they're drilling, but the oil companies are exporting that oil so they can increase their profits.
The oil companies don't give a crap about the American consumers. Never have.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I hear ads from Republican candidates who yap about pumping more domestic oil, but they never mention that once it's out of the ground, it doesn't belong to the U.S. anymore. Shell or BP or whoever owns the oil and they sell it for the best price they can get around the world; it doesn't stay here. And God forbid you suggest that maybe the Free Market may not be the bestest economic program everywhere all the time.
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)I think Palin made her vast ignorance well known with that "drill, baby drill" slogan. And the idiots chanted it for months after, not realizing drilling would not bring the price down.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)wnylib
(21,417 posts)the 2000 election. They supported Bush, of course. When the SC selected Bush as the winner, they cheered. One poster repeatedly posted in caps "Oil is King" and "Burn baby burn."
That was over 20 years ago. By now they are not likely driving the same vehicles, but probably still driving gas guzzlers. Wonder how they're dealing with today's prices.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)onethatcares
(16,165 posts)that you give the cashier the $100.00, he puts it in the register and then the guy puts $100.00 worth of gas in the truck.
I know we're getting close but they haven't come up with an internal combustion engine that runs on paper yet...
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)You bought a vehicle that cost 3 time what mine does.
It costs more to insure.
It costs more to maintain.
It costs more to repair.
It costs more to drive.
What the fuck were you thinking?
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)when inflation is factored in. It was during the last year of the GWB administration. The difference is that the cost of a barrel of oil was $140 ($190 factoring in inflation). Right now it's around $110 - $115. So please explain how the oil companies justify $5 gasoline? It's just good old greed and wanting Biden to look bad. POTUS doesn't control the price of gas and never has.
calimary
(81,192 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)spike jones
(1,678 posts)a little clown truck that he sits on the outside.
CaptainTruth
(6,582 posts)In this case his action was buying a big gas-guzzling truck with a huge gas tank, & he just experienced the consequences of that action.
Tots & pears.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)It would make sense if it were up there with Esteem, but the visceral need to have the biggest truck they can afford speaks to something else going on. I'd like to make a snide comment about a sexual display thing like peacocks, but I actually think it's a Love and Belonging thing. I honestly don't feel sorry for most people with these giant trucks, they had choices and it's not like fuel prices had never gone up in the past. That said I do think a lot of them are trapped into buying vehicles like that. It's an incredibly easy way to buy yourself into a community. Sure you'll probably never talk to the other people driving their spotless F350 or Dodge Ram, but you and they have marked yourselves out as a specific tribe. I suspect that sense of belonging is hard for a lot of these people to find, sure church is supposed to do that for you, but you probably spend way more time on your commute.
But what do I know, I'm retired, I ride my bike 3 miles to get to the local trail system and ride around for 42 or so before heading home. If I go out these days I take my Prius to Costco or the grocery store for shopping. 8 gallons lasts me a month or so usually.
Ps. Lest you ask, I ride to the grocery store, but I live at the top of a 400' Cat 4 climb. I can do it on the bike, but not with the bike, trailer and groceries.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)And when I had my tractor, I pulled the flatbed with it. I'll keep that truck because it's paid for, has relatively low miles (170,000 on a vehicle that could last for over 350,000), and I don't use it enough anymore to buy a new one. Now it only gets started maybe every two or three months but it is reliable so it sits in my carport.
The guy that mows my pasture and clears trees for me has two F350s - he hauls a huge tractor with a 10' wide mower and a big grapple, or a flatbed with two zero turn mowers and all the support equipment for his lawn care/pasture maintenance business. His family also owns a farm that grows watermelons and other stuff - it's been in his family for at least four generations.
Our other two vehicles are a Prius V and a Honda Fit. Both of those get about 40 mpg. The Suburban gets 13 mpg, no mater if we're driving it empty or if we have a fully loaded trailer and full truck. With its forty gallon tank, I don't fill it up these days - I just don't drive it.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)I'm not saying that trucks aren't useful, in fact I do have sympathy for guys that need bigger vehicles to do their jobs when it comes to fuel prices. I just look at most of the big trucks on the road at the moment and wonder, "Did you really need a 1 ton truck." There's an actual need like yours, and then there's compensating.
Mopar151
(9,977 posts)My (old, homemade) 72 ish F350 goes a couple thousand miles a year. Our Minivan (Vanna) takes up the rest. The general observation among my hillclimb friends? "It takes a short man, to drive a tall truck!"
csziggy
(34,135 posts)That's why this truck sits so much. I do still have four mares who are also retired and are now pasture potatoes. The oldest is 25, youngest is 17. A family moved their horses onto the farm in 2008 and they take care of my horses in return for getting to keep their horses here. Great arrangement!
I like your hillclimbing friends observation!
COL Mustard
(5,893 posts)Off the tank here on Long Island this morning. Honestly, if the Government controlled gas prices, theyd be a buck a gallon into perpetuity.
Quixote1818
(28,926 posts)someone middle class and wealthy should not be that big a deal. Just don't go out to eat a couple less times.
Permanut
(5,596 posts)for torpedoing HR7688, the bill that would crack down on price gouging. He probably is aware that the bill was proposed and supported by Democrats, but not one Republican voted for it.
These Einsteins are always up on the facts of the issue, right?
onethatcares
(16,165 posts)if the economy is so bad under President Biden how are so many people buying $40K trucks? and $5/gal gas?
Here in sunny west coast floriduh, they either have a lawn service or drive them to the office where they sit in the lot all day.
Do you have any idea how many parking lots you have to cut just to break even on that payment?
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musette_sf
(10,200 posts)Last time gas prices were ridiculous was the era of the Hummer.
maxsolomon
(33,281 posts)that said "YOU GOT CONNED".
I put them on vehicles with Trump stickers if I was reasonably sure I wouldn't get caught.
Every place I stuck them on in public, they got peeled off.
Initech
(100,059 posts)But they own giant trucks, boats, RVs, ATVs, you name it. So yeah they complain, but they are a huge part of the problem.
I want to scream "Hey idiots! You know why gas was so cheap in 2020? It's because of that virus you kept denying existed and that idiot in the White House that you voted for that kept denying it existed and nearly completely destroyed the economy in the process!!". They are their own worst enemy here.