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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 10:59 AM Jun 2022

It is pretty clear to me now that the Republican Party belongs to Trump and must be outlawed

as we would if there were a party called USA ISIS. The remnants of the old GOP must rename, rebrand, and reform themselves into an acceptable opponent of the Democrats with respect for humankind, our Constitution and ability to change it when necessary to protect the Republic, and respect for JUST and fair law and order.

We can not and will not survive with power resting in a party hell-bent on our destruction as a nation with democratic ideals and laws.

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It is pretty clear to me now that the Republican Party belongs to Trump and must be outlawed (Original Post) Samrob Jun 2022 OP
The First Amendment is a messy little thing, isn't it? Ocelot II Jun 2022 #1
It's more than the 1st Amendment. It about a clear and present danger. nt Samrob Jun 2022 #3
Yours is the siren's song of authoritarians and tyrants across history. tritsofme Jun 2022 #4
Thank you. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #6
Agreed! Turn this around and post it on BettyonRed Jun 2022 #7
+100. It's truly mind boggling ... -(nt)- stopdiggin Jun 2022 #10
Thanks. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #16
1st amendment doesn't protect terrorist organizations or those who sympathize with them uponit7771 Jun 2022 #25
Only - maybe - if the organization in question has been designated Ocelot II Jun 2022 #26
What kind of nonsense is this? tritsofme Jun 2022 #2
Uh. No. onenote Jun 2022 #5
So which political party do you think would be banned Ocelot II Jun 2022 #8
Outlawed? stopdiggin Jun 2022 #9
How do you propose it happen? mcar Jun 2022 #11
Nonsense like this AnyFunctioningAdult Jun 2022 #12
I've been contemplating this question MyMission Jun 2022 #13
It's as if DU is turning into a drinking game. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #14
No. That is not how it goes. Hekate Jun 2022 #15
Ain't the 1st Amendment a wonderful thing? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #17
_ LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #18
Congrats UnderThisLaw Jun 2022 #19
Congrats. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #20
It doesn't belong to Trump Jarqui Jun 2022 #21
Supporting fascism, are we? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #22
Clumsy Wording Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #23
Yep, Putin's Whore controls /20% of GZP base uponit7771 Jun 2022 #24

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
4. Yours is the siren's song of authoritarians and tyrants across history.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jun 2022

No difference.

The First Amendment exists to protect everyone from folks like you.

Ocelot II

(115,834 posts)
6. Thank you.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

It makes me sad and frustrated to see authoritarian sentiments expressed on a purportedly liberal forum. Unfortunately, too often the response to authoritarianism is more and worse authoritarianism.

Ocelot II

(115,834 posts)
8. So which political party do you think would be banned
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

if the GOP managed to seize all three branches of government? There's a damn good reason the First Amendment protects the right to free expression and the right of assembly.

stopdiggin

(11,358 posts)
9. Outlawed?
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jun 2022

So - how does that work exactly? Going with re-education camps? Purges? McCarthy hearings?

Giving your post more credit than it is really due ...
The radicalization of the GOP (and other fringe groups) needs to be opposed - and strenuously. But ...
The term 'outlawed' is severely misplaced here. Either that - or you're just about as dangerous as the other guys.
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12. Nonsense like this
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jun 2022

Only helps convince people not to vote for anyone proposing it. It honestly sounds like something Trump would propose.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
13. I've been contemplating this question
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

Because after the hearings, when most is said and done, and some have been convinced of 45's involvement, there will still be a substantial number of cult 45 members who would vote for and support 45 and his designated representatives. They are crazy, angry, hateful, delusional, dangerous, unpatriotic, deplorable and so many more adjectives. They need the party to give them legitimacy, and they control the GOPQ now. Many have left that party over the last 5+ years, but many have stayed. Could we label it a hate group? I don't think they qualify quite yet.

But what do we do about the millions of them ready, willing and able to lie, steal, cheat, and wage war to subvert our government, commit treason, sedition, and anything needed to install their warped leaders and followers. This includes the planners, leaders, followers, and enablers. They are a clear and present danger. We can't lock them all up (although if we built more mental institutions and prisons, I'm sure many of them would qualify for a spot=harsh sarcasm) Maybe we can strip them of their citizenship, and deport them to Russia and other authoritarian regimes. Or send them off into space, with Elon musk. I clearly went all over the place thinking about how we might be rid of them, because they're a danger, even if the majority of us want to peacefully coexist. A few (or just one) can ruin it for the rest of us. Outlawing the party won't stop their agenda or their reach.

We do need to avoid responding in an authoritarian manner, but it's understandable to me how thoughts can move in that direction. It's very frustrating and scary, they are an infection in our society. My scientific mind suggests we isolate and remove them, and reprogram them from a cult mentality, if possible. But I'm aware that's an extreme and authoritarian response, which is why it's used to control the masses.

What's most troubling to me is the realization that we are at war against this internal enemy, and we must be ever vigilant, and it's exhausting.



MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
17. Ain't the 1st Amendment a wonderful thing?
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

But apparently you want to violate that Amendment.
Any other Amendments you want to violate?

UnderThisLaw

(318 posts)
19. Congrats
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jun 2022

Deliberately or not, you found the post which the usual suspects can use as today’s rallying point

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
21. It doesn't belong to Trump
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

It enabled Trump.
It will throw Trump under the bus and replace him with DeSantis or whoever when it feels like it.
It is a corrupt party but not something that Trump owns.
They own Trump.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,655 posts)
22. Supporting fascism, are we?
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

Instead of unconstitutional actions like banning political parties, I support aggressively prosecuting groups and individuals who seek to overthrow democracy.

I’d be fine using the Patriot Act or Military Commissions Act to declare Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, etc. terrorist organizations, and seize their assets. Hidden benefit might be that those actions help get those 9/11 era laws repealed.

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
23. Clumsy Wording
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jun 2022

But let me express a generic version of what I think was said.

Trumplicans should be ostracized from the legitimate political organization that was once the Republican Party. If Republicans claim to be a responsible and peaceful political organization participating in U.S. elections, they must outlaw the nutjobs in their party and declare themselves Trump-free. Republicans cannot shield criminals in their club, like the insurrectionists who they say violence is legitimate discourse. If those people want a political party, break off and call it the “Moron Criminal Hater” party or something. The change must be enforced by Republicans, not the government as I understand the OP.

It’s a worthwhile concept but easily misunderstood as government declaring a political group ineligible for participation in the election process.

And thus, this thread. As for me, if Republicans self-implode I’m all for it. It’s much more better than now with every moron with a hateful grievance flying under the Republican flag. Make the criminals declare their opposition to a legal, peaceful, and free election process and enforce current criminal statutes they blatantly and proudly violate.

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