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Krystal Ball just schooled the fuck out of Bill Maher on inflation (Original Post) Swede Jun 2022 OP
What did the Fed do in response to the COVID-19 crisis? Swede Jun 2022 #1
👀 excellent article. Thanks. Nt underpants Jun 2022 #4
Exactly. I said it in the beginning of the inflation problem Claustrum Jun 2022 #2
Ball was the only one that remembered this. Swede Jun 2022 #8
It actually triggered the circuit breaker 3 times in March 2020 under TFG. Claustrum Jun 2022 #11
Maher was picking at words to slow her down. underpants Jun 2022 #3
K&R. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #5
I saw this episode. I hated that they were regurgitating talking points In It to Win It Jun 2022 #6
No one on our side is saying that's the only problem. Claustrum Jun 2022 #7
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #18
Maher has a short memory GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #9
It's because the MSM like to pretend it never happened. Claustrum Jun 2022 #12
Yet they were all screaming about their retirements for a few days GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #14
I thought he was gas lighting uponit7771 Jun 2022 #17
They both were gaslighting In It to Win It Jun 2022 #19
From the looks of it, Maher still doesn't believe a word CB said. Claustrum Jun 2022 #20
He has his MAGA talking points and repeats them uponit7771 Jun 2022 #21
The stimuluses only added a point or two to inflation. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2022 #10
RIGHT !! uponit7771 Jun 2022 #16
Those checks have already been spent but the inflation still persists. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2022 #22
Yep and the lion share of inflation is not organic especially stripping gas prices uponit7771 Jun 2022 #23
K&R for her crisply holding her voice to make this point while being interrupted continuously. JudyM Jun 2022 #13
Only MAGA can be this fundamentally uninformed as Maher on this subject. CB to s 100% right !!! Feds uponit7771 Jun 2022 #15
Well, she certainly confused the heck of me. UTUSN Jun 2022 #24
Based on what I've seen of Krystal Ball In It to Win It Jun 2022 #25
Don't even get me started on Conway. CTyankee Jun 2022 #26
CB is 100% right, feds put trillions into corp bonds that propped equities but 1% lovers or those uponit7771 Jun 2022 #27
Ball constantly trashes Democrats. She's a self proclaimed progressive. Not suprised she wants emulatorloo Jun 2022 #28
I thought her appearance was highly annoying superpatriotman Jun 2022 #29
Sweet misanthrope Jun 2022 #30

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
2. Exactly. I said it in the beginning of the inflation problem
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

that TFG administration poured so much money to keep the stock market from crashing and people pretend that isn't part of the inflation problem.

And people forgot the stock market crashed 10,000 points within a week and we closed the stock market under TFG because it dropped too much on a single day (circuit breaker), selective memory at work right there.

Here is wiki about the 2020 crash that republicans or Libertarians alike seem to forget about:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_stock_market_crash

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
11. It actually triggered the circuit breaker 3 times in March 2020 under TFG.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jun 2022

The only reason the stock market recovered is because of the trillion dollars that TFG poured into the stock market using OMG the all evil "government spending".

underpants

(182,982 posts)
3. Maher was picking at words to slow her down.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

She brought up a great point and, at least in this clip, didn’t mention food and oil companies gouging that’s still going on.

In It to Win It

(8,299 posts)
6. I saw this episode. I hated that they were regurgitating talking points
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jun 2022

Yes, the stock market was crashing. It was swinging up and down about 2000-3000 points a day. They kept having circuit breakers. That was the time to get stocks for cheap and make the greatest trades ever.

Inflation is not only contributed to government spending and the government pumping too much money... but ok whatever. An out of whack supply chain and the shortages it created also helped.

I never knew who James Kirchick was but I found out he was a conservative so that explains why he was spewing the Fox News talking points.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
7. No one on our side is saying that's the only problem.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

It's the republicans blaming it all on government spending, while a large part of the spending was also done during TFG era.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
12. It's because the MSM like to pretend it never happened.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jun 2022

None of my republican or Libertarian friends remember it. All of them react the same way Maher did. "When did it happen and what trillions of dollars are you talking about?"

GoodRaisin

(8,933 posts)
14. Yet they were all screaming about their retirements for a few days
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jun 2022

before the “magic rebound”. They were ready to jump off the nearest bridge and two short years later can’t remember.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
20. From the looks of it, Maher still doesn't believe a word CB said.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jun 2022

He will continue to blame it fully on democrats without doing any research about what happened to the stock market in 2020 and the trillions of dollars poured into it.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
15. Only MAGA can be this fundamentally uninformed as Maher on this subject. CB to s 100% right !!! Feds
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jun 2022

... bought bonds OPENLY !!!!

UTUSN

(70,773 posts)
24. Well, she certainly confused the heck of me.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jun 2022

She's never been on my radar, just heard her name as a guest here and there, never stayed to hear her, just thought her name was too precious.

So not knowing her leanings, I was put off by her repeating (plowing through verbally) that prosecuting Drumpf "won't solve the core problem". Only after the show did I see clips of her being labeled as the "Liberal" and the guy as the wingnut.

Overall it was like last week when Mrs CONWAY plowed through without answering direct questions, zeroing in on plugging her book.






In It to Win It

(8,299 posts)
25. Based on what I've seen of Krystal Ball
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jun 2022

She doesn't seem to be a DU favorite for her criticism of the Democratic Party.

She leans left. She's a progressive. From what I know, she's of her Bernie Sander's variety. She's extremely critical of the Party when there is compromise on progressive issues. She's of the "no compromise" and "nothing less" side of the Party. She wants Medicare-for-all and nothing less, universal pre-K and nothing less, etc.

CTyankee

(63,922 posts)
26. Don't even get me started on Conway.
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:51 PM
Jun 2022

Remember how she went on Morning Joe and proclaimed "alternative facts" about Trump's LIES. Mika, to her everlasting credit, promptly BANNED her from the show, period, the end.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
27. CB is 100% right, feds put trillions into corp bonds that propped equities but 1% lovers or those
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jun 2022

.. who don't know they repeat their screeds aren't claiming the feds move on corp bonds as a reason for inflation.

It's maddening, stimulus checks might be 2 - 4% of the whole problem but feds buying corp bonds ... nah, that didn't do anything

emulatorloo

(44,257 posts)
28. Ball constantly trashes Democrats. She's a self proclaimed progressive. Not suprised she wants
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

Trump to avoid consequences. Seeing praise about Trump lately on ‘left twitter’, Bernie’s former 2020 press secretary among those.

misanthrope

(7,435 posts)
30. Sweet
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jun 2022

I recall this from Friday night and how much I liked it. "But oh my God, people were able to feed their kids and they had a little bit of money in their bank account." It's another form of what we've seen in the two years since, the complaints that "no one wants to work" or that "people would rather just stay home and live off the government" long after the COVID-19 benefits had ceased. America is terrified of wage slave emancipation because misery is the lubricant needed for the gears of American capitalism to turn.

These are the same class warfare tactics that have been utilized against the middle and lower classes in this nation for centuries, where we become the cause of every problem, the target of every blame.

It also shows Maher's blind spots and tendencies toward broad brush perspectives. The fact he can't recall the market crash and Fed response is pretty damnable for someone whose forte is this format and these topics.

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