Donald Trump Has 'Zero' Defense in Georgia Investigation: Akerman

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Donald Trump has "zero" defense against a criminal investigation into whether him pressuring Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to tilt the election in his favor constitutes as election interference, said former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman on Sunday.

The ex-president is facing an investigation in the key swing state's Fulton County about whether or not his phone call with Raffensperger, whom Trump implored to "find" 11,780 votes to tilt the election in his favor, amounts to interfering in the election. The state's investigation is coupled with the House select committee that is investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol last year, which is seeking to determine the extent of Trump's involvement in inciting the violence.

The committee's now-televised hearings have received much attention, but Akerman said during an appearance on MSNBC's The Katie Phang Show that the investigation in Georgia is more likely to "send Donald Trump to prison" because the tapes could bolster the prosecution's case against him.

"What is significant with those tapes is that when you put it in context of all of the evidence that the January 6 committee has uncovered—you put that together, Donald Trump has zero defense in Georgia," he said. "If I had to put my money on one prosecution that's going to go forward here that will send Donald Trump to jail—it's Georgia. No question about it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-has-zero-defense-in-georgia-investigation-akerman/ar-AAYCVG4

[Walleye]

1. I hope I live long enough to see him in a Georgia prison. That would be sweet

[Hortensis]

11. :) Yes, it would. Who knows, he might agree to plead guilty to

some minor federal crime just to get transferred.

[jaxexpat]

32. Mental institution has my vote. Preferably a state-run hellhole in Mississippi or Nigeria.

Trump is psychologically and emotionally incapable of admitting to ANY personal loss, flaw or miscalculation. Simply being arrested would drive him so far over the edge it would be hard for anyone to ignore the pathetic weakness of character. But fear not, citizen Republicans, nurse Ratched will have him back in shape and ready for the hunt by 2028.

[SoonerPride]

2. When will he be arrested?

Tomorrow is ok by me.

[usaf-vet]

8. The timing is right but as far as a place of detention GITMO would be my preference. And we would...

... get the added benefit that the treasonous terrorist would not be able to easily plot more attempts to overthrow our Democracy here.

To slightly alter the phrase "better fight them over there than to fight them here."

I would suggest it's "better to incarcerate him over there than to have him close to plotting allies here."

[EndlessWire]

22. An excellent suggestion! n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Again, if he is a democrat he was indicted two years ago.

But he is a con and trump, so almost no chance.

But if this is up to a law abiding AG in GA, who knows, maybe.

[Escurumbele]

30. So much optimism, its contagious...

Lets write the script in a positive way. Too many people understand the need for trump to go to jail, they understand that Democracy in the USA is on a tight rope, any hard wind and Democracy falls.

I am convinced that trump will either go to jail this year, or beginning of next, that SOB WILL NOT be running for office again.

[gulliver]

4. "I want you to do us a favor though," didn't get him.

Neither will, "I just want to find 11,780 votes." In the recording, he says "we won the state" or "we won the election," both before and after the bit about the 11,780 votes.

What "might" get him is Trump's nasty little threats against Raffensberger supposedly risking being charged with a "criminal offense." That sounds low, and juries would respond to the low.

Otherwise, the recording will be used by the defense in any case, state or federal. Trump repeatedly portrays a belief that he won the election. That can be used to undermine "intent."

[Qutzupalotl]

16. The J6 Committee has evidence he knew he lost.

There's also a thread on the Greatest page that has an aide saying she heard him admit privately he lost. So while Trump can claim he believed that he won, there is evidence to counter that….not to mention the fact that he actually did lose.

[EndlessWire]

23. There's a nuance that I don't get.

How is it that, just because he thinks he won, he can defend himself against charges of interfering with an election result by threatening an election official with criminal prosecution if he doesn't get his way? I don't see any change in the "intent" here. He clearly intended to change the vote, clearly threatened Raffensperger, and clearly intended for an election fraud to occur. And, there is clear evidence of that.

If that is his excuse, that he believed he had overall won the election, then he better get the search on for some free lawyer firm he can call his own. Everyone is entitled to a defense, but I don't think this will fly. It will be interesting to see how the SC will spin this set of facts to excuse his criminal intent. He ain't no Patriot, that's for sure.

[Escurumbele]

31. If I am not mistaken he said "we find those 11,780 votes, we win the State and we win the election".

[cloudboy07]

5. what about the others on the phone call ?

[Mme. Defarge]

6. No room

for reasonable doubt.

[MyOwnPeace]

7. So, you're telling me.......

that SOMEDAY we just may see Dotard somewhere out on a Georgia highway, wearing a bright orange suit (matching his face) whacking weeds and picking up trash (oh, wait, that's what he USED to do!)?

O-M-G - I'm planning a road trip - I don't care WHAT gas costs!!!!!!

[nuxvomica]

13. They'll call him "Small Hand Donald"

[MyOwnPeace]

29. So, do you think he can.....

eat more hamberders than anybody else in his cell block? :
Just think - something he could finally win!

[EndlessWire]

24. LOL! n/t

[malaise]

9. The full tape

[EndlessWire]

26. TY for posting.

Trump fed them a lot of reasons that they could claim as substantiation for changing the vote count. He's real slick, but they repeatedly responded that their numbers were correct. He then moved on to threatening them, first with criminality, then with lost campaigns by his withdrawing endorsements. But they didn't crumble at all in the face of the whirlwind he brought.

This was painful to listen to, as Trump says almost everything twice in a row. It is so wonderful not to have to listen to his crap anymore, but listening to this phone call is worth it. He really, really tried to corrupt the vote. I also wondered whether this Ruby person and her daughter could sue for defamation. Not up on that, though.

[UGADawg]

10. Where are you going to find 12 who willl convict in Georgia?

I live in N GA.

[pnwmom]

12. In Atlanta? n/t

[40RatRod]

14. With all the MAGAs in Georgia...

...it would virtually impossible to find a jury that would convict.

[Takket]

15. is there some reason this investigation is taking so long?

this crime was committed some 18+ months ago. And it was a single event, a phone call. The whole event lasted, what, maybe 15 minutes a the most? This isn't a months long conspiracy like the jan 6 terrorist attack. What in the world could they be investigating that they have not already looked into?

[Tommymac]

20. They may want a change of Governor. When Stacy wins this will be a slam dunk charge in 2023.

Unless the current asswipe Gov. pardons him pre-emptively.

[kimbutgar]

17. If they indict and convict him I can see Governor Kemp pardoning him to make the maggots

Like him again.

[PTWB]

21. He will be pardoned long before it ever gets to a conviction.

[OAITW r.2.0]

18. By the time Jan 6 rolled around.....

overthrowing the government was his last deperate act, a motivation to stay out of jail.

[Lil Liberal Laura]

19. He has a Great Defense

Legal and political inaction.

[Grins]

25. That should also imprison Mitchell and Meadows.

Cleata and Mark. Both were on that call in the Oval Office when it was made.

[EndlessWire]

27. Did you notice

how Trump really didn't want her to speak? She kept trying to get the missing data from them, the records that are not allowed by Georgia law to be released, and Trump kept interrupting. He sure didn't want that data, because that data would show that the Georgia count was correct. That's not what he was interested in.

[UTUSN]

28. K&R

[Evolve Dammit]

33. Please let it be so. Seems like he has enough enablers to drag out any charges

In perpetuity. We will see.

[LiberalFighter]

34. Garland should be asked the following question.

Do you want to open the door to make it easier for someone like Putin violating election laws and the Constitution? If you believe in the law and the Constitution then you must prosecute and convict Trump and all of his conspirators.

[LiberalFighter]

35. Make sure Guiliani and Graham are included.