Krystal Ball schools Bill Maher

[womanofthehills]

Link to tweet

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[uponit7771]

1. Maher not knowing the stock market was propped by the feds after 2020 crash is crazy

[gratuitous]

6. It doesn't fit his prejudices

So of course he forgot about it or (more likely) it never registered with him that that's what happened. In Maherworld, government spending on the wealthy is as it should be, but government spending to benefit the underclass is worse than Hitler times Stalin squared.

[NCLefty]

11. Or his area of expertise. His degree is English/history and he's a comedian.

I pay a lot of attention to news and don't recall hearing about "fed action" for Wall Street on Covid (though I do remember 2008/9s Wall Street bailout). I don't pay a ton of attention to economic details though.

[moonshinegnomie]

51. biggest 1 day declines in the dow jones ever (by points)

all of these were in 2020
march 16 down 2997
march 12 down 2352
march 9 down 2013
june 11 down 1861
march 11 down 1465
march 18 down 1338

in the 2 weeks between march 9 and march 23 the down fell from 25k to 18200 at its low. that 27% in 2 weeks. thats a crash

[uponit7771]

37. +1,

[Voltaire2]

36. Maher is frequently uninformed.

Besides being a bigot, he is an ignorant pompous ass.

[Jim__]

2. The stock market crash of 2020.

From wikipedia - stock market crash 2020:

Though the crash began on 20 February, selling was intensified during the first half of March to mid-March. During the crash, there were multiple severe daily drops in the global stock market, the largest drop was on 16 March, nicknamed 'Black Monday II' of 12–13% in most global markets.[28][29][30] There were two other significant dates of crashes in the stock markets, one being 9 March, nicknamed 'Black Monday I',[31][32][33] and on 12 March, nicknamed 'Black Thursday'.[34][35] To deal with the panic, banks and reserves across the world cut their interest rates, bank rates and cash flow rates, as well as offering unprecedented support to investors and markets

[applegrove]

3. She made a great point.

[Demsrule86]

4. I can't stand her...hates Democrats.

[applegrove]

5. I don't follow her. Don't know her but if she is against good Democrates

then I'm glad she is not on my radar. Still a good point.

[Demsrule86]

16. She advised Democrats to leave their ballots blank in 20.

[applegrove]

17. Sicko.

[betsuni]

21. Yet somehow everybody's a huge Ball fan now.

I don't know why anybody thinks Ball, who hates Democrats, is a big "progressive."

[In It to Win It]

30. From my understanding of Krystal Ball

She doesn’t think Democrats are progressive enough. She appears to extremely uncompromising when it comes to progressive issues so she criticizes Democrats.

[betsuni]

34. But what's "progressive"?

[In It to Win It]

52. From the little I know about her

She's for Medicare-for-all, universal pre-k, and stuff like that. She calls herself a "Bernie Sanders leftist." IIRC, on this same Bill Maher episode, she said she supported Biden's COVID relief bill and I believe she said she also supports the Biden's Build Back Better plan. She said she didn't think the BBB plan went far enough, or at least, she implied that she felt that way. She wants a Green New Deal.

On the other side, she thinks the Democratic Party isn't serious about their position for these things or that their support is disingenuous. I remember her campaigning for Democrats in past but that was quite some time ago when I saw it. She thinks Democrats won't deliver so she blasts them. AFAIK, she is on the "no compromise" part of the political spectrum.

[womanofthehills]

7. She's a progressive Dem - she doesn't hate democrats

I think the party is inclusive enough to have progressives.

[Demsrule86]

12. No she is not. She did not vote for the Democratic nominee in 20 and she takes money from the GOP.

Link to tweet

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[betsuni]

20. +1

[Demsrule86]

25. Thanks

[Just A Box Of Rain]

35. We will have to disagree about what it means to be progressive.

For me it is being an agent of positive change and not a euphemism for extremist anti-Democratic nuttery.

The term has been co-opted in my estimation.

Bill

[betsuni]

8. She was viciously anti-Democratic, really pushed the propaganda to discourage voting for them.

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Loves to call Democrats corrupt corporatist centrist establishment elites who hate the working class, rigging conspiracy theories. Now she's more Both Sides Lite because those old insults aren't as popular anymore. According to twitter comments, a lot of people claim not to know her.

One of those people who hate Democrats, like Tulsi Gabbard or Nina Turner, who say they're "progressive" and everybody believes it for some reason. For example Ball: "Previewing Hellish Future of a Biden Administration."

Seeing people praising Ball, who has helped Republicans/Russia is quite nauseating.

[Demsrule86]

13. She is awful.

[Demsrule86]

15. I can't see how folks like her. She wanted the GOP to win in 20.

[betsuni]

22. If you say you're "progressive" but hate Democrats and love Russia,

you're like, totally "progressive" -- what does "progressive" mean?

[Polybius]

9. Krystal Ball is one of my biggest political crushes

I absolutely adore her.

[Demsrule86]

14. She didn't vote for our candidate in 20. Fuck her.See above.

[Polybius]

19. I'm mostly in love with her looks

I also find her entertaining. Doesn't mean I'd vote for her.

[betsuni]

23. She's not running for office.

She's working for the corporate MSM, for money. Capitalism. I thought the corporate conglomerate media whatever was bad.

[Polybius]

49. Oh I know she isn't

I'm just saying that if she did, it doesn't mean that I'd vote for her.

[Demsrule86]

26. I do not find her entertaining. She wanted Trump to win. She is pretty but like all haters that

won't last long. The hate seeps out...as you age, you get the face you earn.

[Polybius]

50. I like Ana Kasparian too

I've always been a sucker for good looks.

[womanofthehills]

42. I like her podcast "Breaking Points" - she broke with corporate media

And it’s refreshing to hear different points of view. I definitely don’t agree with all she says, but she is bright and has some good alternative points.

[DFW]

10. Way back when she had her show on MSNBC, we used to be friends

I haven't seen her in many years, and, since my views seem to have diverged from hers somewhat, she hasn't been in touch, either. Time marches on.
From the good old days of "The Cycle:"

[uponit7771]

31. +1, nice pic ... which one is you? thx in advance

[DFW]

38. At the end, next to Abby n/t

[Celerity]

18. She spanked hard, glad to see someone push back in the OMG, the1400 USD cheques

are almost entirely to blame an it was all Biden and the Dems' bullshit.

RW assholes and then, at times, austerity hawks like Manchin and Sinema always (RW) or far too often (Manchinema) leave out that even more than 1400 USD per person was sent out in cheques under the orange pos, and they leave out the trillions of USD in expansionist Fed injections straight into the markets.

The bad thing is, the average American's eyes gloss over most of (or all of, in far too many cases) the time when you start to talk Fed fiscal policy, even when you dumb it down to the simplest of grade school English.

Try dropping important concepts like exogenous shocks or Treasury yield curves and they start to go into shut down/ brain seize mode and/or walk/run away.

[betsuni]

24. What?

[uponit7771]

32. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 .. Feds tossed trillions into bond *SECTORS* and even proffered propping ..

... ETFs then kept rates too low for too long knowing pandemics are inflationary.

This was all done under Trump

Trump threatened to demote fed chief Powel at one time when he said he was going to increase interest rates.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-fed-powell-demotion-coronavirus

I just don't know if taking interest rate hammer to this problem is the answer outside of housing

[betsuni]

27. Oh right. Ball, who hates Democrats, doesn't really care, pseudo fake progressive

because money, but Bill Maher who's donated millions of dollars to elect democrats and always supports Democrats is bad? Idiots.

[womanofthehills]

39. No one is saying Bill is bad - he's just very ignorant in this clip

He can be an asshole even though I watch his show - I watch basically because he’s a comedian. He went on and on last year -so angry that Americans were getting a measly $1200 but he has no problem or knowledge of big business getting the money.

Crystal ran as a Dem in Virginia yrs ago and also has raised millions to support dems.

[Catherine Vincent]

28. What's with the people applauding everytime after he speaks?

[Hav]

29. Either paid actors or idiots

I'll never understand why ordinary citizens would be upset about the people receiving government support during hard times.

[womanofthehills]

48. Like Crystal or not, Bill was obviously upset because Crystal made him look like an idiot

Especially because he raged in the past about American getting $1200 during Covid lockdown.

[msfiddlestix]

33. another hyped up tweet that didn't even remotely reveal what it claims

maher didn't get schooled. period.

i hate it when I get played.

I wish it was required to indicate "twitter" in the titles.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

40. +1

[womanofthehills]

41. If you are ignorant of a major fact -

And someone tells you about - you might get schooled. He’s a comedian first and it shows.

[msfiddlestix]

45. I guess we have different interpretations of being schooled

For me, if the person that needs to be schooled isn't listening but talking over the other person who is doing the informing, that information isn't getting through. it isn't even being heard.

On purpose, Maher interrupts any and all attempts to be properly informed about anything he's quite wrong about. He doesn't accept that he could possibly be wrong about anything. Like Trump. A Narcisist. Which is a trait I do not find to be the least bit entertaining

[TeamProg]

43. Excellent! Thanks for posting.

[dawg]

44. Neither of these people know what they are talking about.

Of the two, Maher is clearly the least informed. (Shocking, I know.)

Inflation is worldwide phenomenon right now. What could be the cause? I can't say for certain, but it'd have to be something that affected the whole world, right?

Pretty sure that $1,400 check i got from President Biden isn't it. It got spent long, long ago. Besides, Germans and Englishmen didn't get them, did they?

Likewise, the "billions of dollars" Ms. Ball claims was showered on Wall Street was actually just the Fed's efforts at keeping interest rates low. Yes, corporations and investors benefited from that, but borrowers on Main St. benefited from that, too. Allowing interest rates to soar when so many people's jobs were insecure would have been an ignorant thing to do.

So, what could possibly be the problem then? What could have disrupted the whole word's economy?

There are a couple of obvious choices: the pandemic, and the war in Ukraine.

And President Biden is handling both of those situations much better than any Republican ever would, especially that idiot who held office before him.

[msfiddlestix]

46. Spot effin on!

[madville]

47. They're arguing one or the other is at fault

When its really all of it put together. It’s like they are trying to argue that a specific breed of dog is the only real dog.