For People Who Watch CNN

[gab13by13]

Just curious if the cable news anchors there are toeing the line and not saying the term, "The Big Lie?"

When a phrase gets repeated over and over again people believe it, even if it's the truth. We can't have people believing the Big Lie is true.

[walkingman]

1. Is there a better phrase to describe "The Big Lie"?

[Midnight Writer]

22. CNN suggested "Trump's election lies", which works for me.

Even though I think this is much bigger than just Trump and should encompass all the Republicans who are repeating these lies.

A problem with "The Big Lie" is that conservative radio is already twisting that phrase to mean the legitimacy of Biden's Presidency is The Big Lie.

[brooklynite]

3. Not what CNN asked them to do...

We can't have people believing the Big Lie is true.

All CNN said was not use the specific term "The Big Lie". Never said to deny that Trump and his supporters are lying about the election outcome.

[gab13by13]

9. Ah but the best way to drive home something

is to repeat it over and over again.

99% of Americans don't know the difference between a fence and a wall.

CNN asked them to stop saying "The Big Lie," Why?

[Scrivener7]

21. They asked that their people use the term "Trump's election lie" instead. I

agree that "Trump's election lie" is better, don't you?

[Midnight Writer]

23. I'm OK with "Trump's election lies", as it is more specific and harder for conservatives to twist.

Some conservative radio talkers are using the term "The Big Lie" to mean that Biden is not a legitimate President.

The only caveat I have is that it doesn't include the Republicans pushing the lies. I don't think Trump is an anomaly that "took over" the Republican Party so much as he is the result of decades of radicalization within the Party.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Euphemisms are like close.

But only the exact term spells out what Trump and his supporters are really doing.

The Big Lie — a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the facts, especially when used as a propaganda device by a politician or official body.

[crud]

4. Every stupid Republican framing

is repeated endlessly on mainstream media. The Dems finally get one to stick and somehow it's partisan? Fuck that!

[Novara]

7. I know, right?!?!

Fuck it. It is THE BIG LIE followed by THE BIG RIP-OFF.

[msfiddlestix]

5. I don't have cable, but I have to disagree with your premise, just this once, :)

what I've read here, is that the edict states that "The Big Lie" should be replaced with something close to: "Trimps Lies".

Which I feel is more appropriate and importantly, puts the onus, the blame on Individual One.

For me, the Big Lie descriptor implies it's the biggest of all time. For me, there's been far too many other Big Lies, most signifcantly in recent years that rank in my mind with the current context, was the big lie that got us to invade Iraq which launched untold loss to treasury and life. one the most corrupt and needless wars on this scale.

There have been so many Big Lies. Saying Trumps Lies is big, but it's Trump's big lies, not Bush/Cheney's big lies.

Just saying I think it's appropriate. I liked reading that the lame "Breaking News" banner for every single news item has been rebuked by the same advisor. That was another thing I have not missed when I cut the cord years ago

[Earth-shine]

6. I've heard they are supposed to use the phrase "Trump's election lie."

I can't actually say whether CNN hosts are complying.

Trump has already turned the phrase "the big lie" on its head into meaning "the stolen election."

[relayerbob]

8. You missed half the story

They are to replace that statement with “Trump’s Election Lies”

[gab13by13]

12. Not as catchy, IMO.

The term The Big Lie had gained traction with people.

[relayerbob]

13. Not accurate and is being used by Trump to twist things around

Like "Defund the Police", catchy, vague, and inaccurate terms are bad when they can be used against you. Accuracy is far more important.

[lastlib]

10. "Large Falsehood," anyone?

[gab13by13]

11. People believe what gets repeated over and over again.

I never said that CNN was disclaiming the Big Lie, CNN told its employees not to say "The Big Lie." to me that is telling.

[relayerbob]

14. Yes, it's because Trump is using it to describe the Election Lie hearings.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

17. Ironically

Getting people to believe something that they are told "over and over again" is the essence of the "Big Lie" propaganda technique.

We are better served by good journalism.

[Ohio Joe]

19. +1 - nt

[haele]

15. I can understand the need to define which Big Lie the GQP is pushing...

"Election Fraud", "Trickle Down", Climate Change", "CRT", "Grooming/Wokeness", "Migrant Caravans", "Christian Nationalism"...they've got a Mighty Wurlitzer spewing out so much disinformation that disproving all of it is impossible; it needs to be picked apart.
The term "The Big Lie" is rather useless -it carries little more impact to most listeners than saying "Houston, we have a Problem...".
Identifying the subject is paramount if you're fighting it.
Just my opinion.

Haele

[Just A Box Of Rain]

16. You are mischaracterizing what's happening at CNN

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Licht has asked anchors to use terms like "Trump's election lies" instead of the "Big Lie" as a way to raise the journalistic standards at a network that too often looks like a source of infotainment and opinion, rather than journalism.

The has been no move to deny Trump's dishonesty about the election. Quite to the contrary.

"Trump's election lies" is more on-point and more descriptive than the "Bie Lie."

[MOMFUDSKI]

18. Journalistic Standards my ass.

All they talk about these days is Biden's LOW rating and horrible presidency. Screw CNN.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

20. My opinion of CNN's journalistic standards is pretty low.

Using phrases like the Big Lie is not helpful in that regard. It is far from the only problem at that network.