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(78,697 posts)They will turn over their country to the most heinous of villains as long as they get white male christian rule.
bucolic_frolic
(53,586 posts)They can't figure out the source of their discontent.
Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)Objectivity ended a long time ago. Solid bone from ear to ear.
calimary
(88,697 posts)FORTY YEARS of limbaugh - who really broke the ice and led the way for all the rest of the vermin epidemic including all those listed. And I don't know who I want to scream at most at this point: Republicans - who schemed and seeded this in multiple ways, from media ownership to talent development, or Democrats - who either may have noticed something but didn't think it was all that big a deal, or just slept through the whole thing.
I don't know who's at bigger fault here.
The first time I heard limbaugh, my thought was "OY, here's trouble..." Back when I was still working on the radio, I remember telling friends that this worried me and that I suspected it could be the beginning of something really bad cuz this guy was glib and compelling to listen to, and listeners could really be taken in. And nobody else seemed all that bothered about it or took it as a serious threat. NOBODY.
And NOBODY actively supported a counter-push from Air America - which was about all we had back then, to argue the opposite points and push back on limbaugh & co. They had the airwaves pretty much to themselves - and when Air America folded, they had the whole ballgame to themselves, especially since owners could stack the deck at the local level with limbaugh clones of all shapes and sizes.
Pandora's box was opened. And the lid had soon been pried off, completely, and thrown away. And by now, it's been allowed to metastasize into a cancer that is now actively threatening to kill our democracy.
I have to work a lot harder to be hopeful these days.
Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)presidential medal of freedumb from the Orange Chosen One.
And trivialized, ridiculed by most if not all on the left . Except the GOP base who revered him, and all that spawned forth using his model.
calimary
(88,697 posts)And all too soon, it wasn't just him. He sprouted clones and me-too's and other opportunistic infections all over the airwaves.
Back when I was just getting started in radio, there was Joe Pine and Ray Briem - and many of us just laughed at them because they were cartoon-conservatives. That crank Ray Briem ended every show with "Don't give up the Panama Canal!" Just real eye-rollers like that. Calling them cranks was kind. What they actually were: demon seeds. They begat a guy like limbaugh. And he quite literally TOOK it from there.
Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)Bit of propoganda. and Pence filled in for Ingraham as guest host.
Captain Zero
(8,667 posts)Seems like stations in larger Midwest towns and cities could try programming with some of these. Broadcast them out to the two stoplight towns and farms. It would be worth a try with stations already ratings challenged. We could even gofundme seed some of them?
Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)calimary
(88,697 posts)And it was starved to death.
Rachel Maddow got a big boost from there, though. So it wasnt a total loss. And Thom Hartmann had a vehicle for awhile, too.
Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)It was a good lineup
calimary
(88,697 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)OMGWTF
(4,983 posts)I know the answer to your question -- which is worse? The Rethuglikkklans of course. They're the ones making the constant chaos and messes the Dems have to clean up. There are a few bad Dems, and the best thing we can do is make them irrelevant.
calimary
(88,697 posts)Shit - we've got midterm elections coming up in less than six months. WHERE are the commercials? On TV and radio both!
CrispyQ
(40,539 posts)but I totally agree.
My mother was a JFK democrat. She called the republicans the party of big money & said that democrats better represented working class people. Then in her fifties she got a (blue collar) job where they listened to Limbaugh all afternoon, every afternoon, & in about 18 months she was a changed person. Angry, filled with hate toward minorities & uppity women because they were the ones ruining America. That's how I was introduced to Rush Limbaugh & I thought the same thing you didthis isn't going to be good.
We should have hired George Lakoff when he published "Don't Think of an Elephant," but it's too late now. The repubs have more successfully defined our side than we have. Tax & spend democrats. Weak on immigration democrats. Socialists. Baby killers. And our side is like crickets.
calimary
(88,697 posts)What the hell is the matter with them? And WHY dont they get how MASSIVELY important MESSAGING is?????
Sorry. My dad was a salesman. I grew up with sloganeering and salesmanship. May seem trivial and eeeuw, shouldnt we be above such things? But the answer is NO! And not just a simple no, but a NO, DAMMIT!!!
Dammit! I ache with frustration about this! Ive been tearing my hair for years about this! WHEN are the Dems gonna wake up and smell the coffee on this?????? The bad guys are good at it. REALLY good at it. And theyve been spending their time and money building delivery systems for it also. And while theyve been busy as bees, building this infrastructure, OUR team has been asleep! And IF theyre awake theyre busy turning their noses up at the whole idea and rolling their eyeballs at how low-brow and pedestrian it is. They just dont get it!
WHEN will they start getting it?????
But - IS it too late? I dont think so. But we Dems better jump on this with both feet, right NOW. NOT just think about it or talk about it or consider it. Actually GET IN there and DO it.
BSdetect
(9,048 posts)bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)Traildogbob
(12,343 posts)Long title, great freakin song. Made it a priority to learn. My dogs love it. Have to read the room to play in public.
Conservative, Christian, Right wing Republican, Straight white American Male
Im the Tree hugging, peace lovin, pot smoking, porn lovin, hippie he sings of.
Check it out. Todd is my favorite singer songwriter, story teller.
calimary
(88,697 posts)If you don't, THESE days, you're liable to take your life in your hands (AND theirs, too)!
Traildogbob
(12,343 posts)I Live in Meadows/Cawthorn district. Guns ring out around the Mtns all day everyday. I have to play it low volume sitting on my porch or in the back yard. I can counter with Charlie Daniels Long Haired country boy or, Skynards Mississippi Kid about guns or their God and Guns. Actually will not play that shut song.) If those dont stop the shootin at me I can do my acoustic version of Free Bird. Damn .if that dont work, guess I will just do John Prine, Please dont Bury me in the cold cold ground.
chillfactor
(7,694 posts)they will never wake up to those facts.
YoshidaYui
(44,830 posts)Has got to hate!
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)cloudboy07
(351 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,430 posts)How 'bout that Southern Heritage!
Cha
(316,164 posts)
Martin Eden
(15,253 posts)That results in more stupidity in a vicious cycle of stupitude.
SheltieLover
(75,592 posts)ck4829
(37,314 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
― Lyndon B. Johnson