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texas wants to secede? good riddance (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 OP
Someone sent a tweet out today MontanaMama Jun 2022 #1
If they hate the USA so much, they need to leave the Union. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #2
Texas is like a toddler, periodically throwing a fit Skittles Jun 2022 #3
No they would not. Texas does not have jurisdiction over the US Military. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2022 #5
I know all about Texas AFB, I live here and I was enlisted Skittles Jun 2022 #7
"I mean it. Here I go." JHB Jun 2022 #14
their sense of importance is sooooo inflated Skittles Jun 2022 #26
Sorry to disappoint but Texas has nothing to do with this, it's the Insurrectionists Party of the GO MagickMuffin Jun 2022 #4
Perhaps the wall will get built after all lol, except around TX nt msongs Jun 2022 #6
With no Blue State Tax money kairos12 Jun 2022 #8
Texas sends far more money to the federal government than they get. former9thward Jun 2022 #10
I stand corrected. kairos12 Jun 2022 #11
that is only in direct grants though. There are other ways Texas gets federal money fishwax Jun 2022 #15
thats very misleading moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #9
Secession talk is just that. Talk Takket Jun 2022 #12
Yes, but look how happy it makes the Texas-haters. It never fails. (nt) Paladin Jun 2022 #13
In fairness there's a lot to hate. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #31
And there's a lot to love. Paladin Jun 2022 #33
Yes, I will go ahead and continue to do just that. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #34
What state are you from? I'd like to help you cut it up. The reason the GOP ... marble falls Jun 2022 #16
I'm with you. I despise state bashing. panader0 Jun 2022 #23
I totally agree... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #28
Agree Raine Jun 2022 #36
I would love for Texans to have to apply for a visa to come to Colorado. Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #18
Charming post. TheProle Jun 2022 #19
You know what's really charming, is being aggressively tailgated by their Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #20
The wife and I are looking for a summer roadtrip TheProle Jun 2022 #24
Isn't it funny that the self-described party of Lincoln wants to break up the Union? Victor_c3 Jun 2022 #21
And there're still *many good people who live in each* of those States, I know some. electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #29
We close all the military bases how will they survive Emile Jun 2022 #22
Texans would need passports frogmarch Jun 2022 #25
They literally can't budkin Jun 2022 #27
We have a lot of good Democrats in Texas. Please help Beto get elected. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #30
They won't do this LeftInTX Jun 2022 #32
Then there will never be another conservative POTUS misanthrope Jun 2022 #35
Secede my ass, let's expel them. 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #37

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
1. Someone sent a tweet out today
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

that pointed out that TX can’t figure out how to make their water and electricity work…so best wishes to those buffoons.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
5. No they would not. Texas does not have jurisdiction over the US Military.
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jun 2022

The civilian Army National Guard perhaps. The Air National Guard is under the auspice of the US Air Force.

The Military bases is Texas would not take too kindly to Abbott. I have stayed at Dyess, Lackland, golfed at Randolph AFB, stayed at the Naval Station in Fort Worth. The 3 AFB are HUGE complexes that are cities within themselves.

The Texas GOP are NOT thinking at all.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
4. Sorry to disappoint but Texas has nothing to do with this, it's the Insurrectionists Party of the GO
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jun 2022


That wants the state to secede. The law abiding Texans haven't been heard from.


former9thward

(31,981 posts)
10. Texas sends far more money to the federal government than they get.
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jun 2022

Texas sent $261 billion in taxes to the federal government and got back $40 billion in grants to the state (2016 last year figures are available). That is a return of 15%.

https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2017/november/federal-funding.php#:~:text=Texans%20sent%20the%20federal%20government,net%20revenue%20in%20that%20year.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
15. that is only in direct grants though. There are other ways Texas gets federal money
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 07:41 AM
Jun 2022

For instance, the scores of billions of dollars that the military spends in Texas each year are a pretty important part of Texas's economy. I don't have the numbers handy, but while overall Texas does still typically contribute more than they take from the federal budget, it is much closer to even in the final analysis.

moonshinegnomie

(2,440 posts)
17. thats very misleading
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:35 AM
Jun 2022

its only direct transfers to the state
if doesnt include for example payments to federal workers,medicare payments,food stamps.the earned income credit,or any other payments made directly to people

on a per capita basis texas texas gets aboy #00 mre per person then they pay
https://www.voanews.com/a/which-us-states-get-more-than-they-give/4809228.html

Response to moonshinegnomie (Original post)

Takket

(21,560 posts)
12. Secession talk is just that. Talk
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:23 AM
Jun 2022

constant red meat for the base. They have been saying it my entire lifetime but nothing ever happens because they know it would be a disaster for them.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
33. And there's a lot to love.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:03 PM
Jun 2022

I won't waste either my time or yours, expounding on that. Go ahead and hate.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
16. What state are you from? I'd like to help you cut it up. The reason the GOP ...
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 07:45 AM
Jun 2022

... runs the show is not because we Democrats get out and vote in proportion of the population.

Get Democrats to run for every office against GOP candidates, and to vote in every election.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
23. I'm with you. I despise state bashing.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jun 2022

Arizona, where I live, gets bashed too. At any given time, I've seen most states bashed here on DU.
There are many good Democrats in every state. When I ask, like you, "What state are you from?",
I never get an answer because there is no state without some embarrassment.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
28. I totally agree...
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jun 2022

some of the very best people I know are in Houston and rural parts of Texas. This is NOT WHO THEY ARE. I also feel that moves like this by the state GOP will ultimately turn the state more purple.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
18. I would love for Texans to have to apply for a visa to come to Colorado.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jun 2022

And then be denied. They're such a plague, and all of them shitty drivers.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
20. You know what's really charming, is being aggressively tailgated by their
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:19 AM
Jun 2022

massive SUV's and trucks everywhere I go, May thru September. Sorry, your state is full of obnoxious aggressive drivers who should stay and enjoy the unbearable heat in their own state.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
21. Isn't it funny that the self-described party of Lincoln wants to break up the Union?
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

Didn’t Lincoln fight a war that was partly over that? If I’m not mistaken, he was fighting to keep the union together, but I’m a little fuzzy on my history.

Texas and the southern states represent the worst things that this county has to offer. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit to see them leave.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
32. They won't do this
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jun 2022

This is what the yahoos at the convention want. They're the same group that booed Dan Crenshaw.
No bill has been filed. Texas does not have a legislative session until 2023.
Every session someone files a bill to secede. The bill never makes it out of cmte.
This is nothing but red meat theater

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
35. Then there will never be another conservative POTUS
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jun 2022

Texas would take its 40 electoral college votes with it.

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