Oklahoma "man" causes panic when he carries semi-automatic rifle into AT&T store.

[RandySF]

An incident in Broken Arrow a week ago raised fresh questions about how witnesses and law enforcement should respond when people walk around in public armed with assault-style rifles.

A man in a tactical vest with a semi-automatic rifle and holstered pistol prompted Broken Arrow Justice Center employees to lock their doors June 13, according to a news release.

AT&T store employees who then saw the man proceeded to “run out the back of the store,” and multiple 911 calls came from the parking lot of a Target store that he was walking toward, Broken Arrow police said.

Due to Oklahoma’s constitutional carry laws, police determined that at each location the man “was not breaking the law” with the rifle and vest.

But “quite honestly, nobody needs to be walking down the street with a rifle,” Rogers County Sheriff Scott Walton said in an interview about dealing with such situations. “But I don’t make the laws; we just try to live by them and do a very difficult job in a world that’s got those people in it.”





https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/broken-arrow-open-carry-incident-raises-law-enforcement-questions/article_a5f4a2d8-edb3-11ec-806d-bb938b4a6b13.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

[TheBlackAdder]

1. Apparently, that's the life a pluralty of OK's citizens want to live to preserve their gun culture.

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It's not possession, but it raises the question how unhinged that person is to feel the need to do it.

It seems that they are desperately seeking negative attention or are at a crisis point and didn't go off.

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[flying_wahini]

2. These guys think of themselves as hero's, too. Amazing.

[brewens]

3. When that kind of thing doesn't cause panic, a shooter will be able to walk right to

the spot he picked out with a backpack full of ammunition and start shooting. If it's someone with training, going for the record, it will take days to hose all the gore out of the building.

[uponit7771]

11. +1

[Thomas Hurt]

4. He may be legally carrying a weapon but that doesn't mean they have to let the yahoo in.

Openly carrying a gun is always meant to be intimidating and threatening. If the gun fetishists says different they are fn lying.

[maxsolomon]

36. They think they're exercisin' their rights.

And that if you have a problem with it, you hate Amurka and the Constytution.

If you find it threatening and intimidating, that's your problem, too. Open carry is nice and legal; not brandishing.

America is crazytown.

[msongs]

5. time for stand your ground and shoot these guys in self defense? nt

[budkin]

39. That's what I'm thinking

"I feared for my life."

[Initech]

6. Don't be alarmed. Just another NRA approved responsible gun owner (tm)! Nothing to see here!

[cloudboy07]

7. just another jackass ! lucky didn''t get his ass pick 'd off !

the fine people of the -Not really Americans !

[GoodRaisin]

8. I'd leave the store too.

What a dumbass country we live in.

[Grokenstein]

9. My! What a polite society!

[uponit7771]

10. Fuckin troll

[Rhiannon12866]

12. I walked into any store and saw anyone brandishing a gun, I'd assume it was a hold up, escape ASAP

And call a cop!

[madinmaryland]

32. It sounds like a lot of people did exactly what you would have done.

I would call the cops, too.

[gratuitous]

33. And then the cops show up

Take a look at Mr. Macho, and decide there's no law being broken and they do nothing.

[Caliman73]

41. They cannot do anything. He was not breaking any laws.

He was acting like a fucking idiot, but apparently that is not against the law in Oklahoma. In California he would have been arrested for possession, brandishing, and for carrying without a permit on the handgun. If the rifle was an AR-15, he would also likely have run afoul of our AWB.

That is why, despite the high cost of living. I like living in CA, even as an owner of firearms myself. We don't seem to have the stupid ass gun culture that a lot of other states have.

[Woodswalker]

13. Wouldn't it be something

If one of his so called fellow patriots pulled out a concealed carry handgun and heroically shot him in the head

[Kaleva]

15. He'd probably be charged for murder

Anyone carrying a gun ought to know what the laws are in their state and shooting a guy in the head who was doing something legal might result in a murder charge .

We shouldn't be advocating murder here at DU.

[Phoenix61]

19. No one is advocating for murder.

The point is how easy it would be for someone to think the guy with the gun is a bad guy with a gun.

[Kaleva]

38. I got the impression the poster I responded to

was almost gleeful at the prospect of the man, who wasn't commiting a crime, getting shot in the head.

[Phoenix61]

47. I took as pointing out the irony of the situation those

who are against all gun regulation have created. Between open carry and stand your ground it’s inevitable someone is going to end up getting shot.

[newdayneeded]

23. We had a case in my state

A guy shot a shooter in a bar then went outside, he was immediately shot by a cop because he had his gun on him. The good guy theory, can create even more chaos to officers just getting to the scene.

[SoonerPride]

29. He could always say he felt threatened.

Stand your ground is a defense.

And once the AR15 toting idiot is dead, who is to say if he was a threat or not?

It's like the wild wild west in my state. Yahoo!

[Kaleva]

37. Depends on the state which is why I suggested people learn their laws

[Emile]

14. If Oklahoma had a red flag law, could they take away this irresponsible

gun owner guns?

[Blue_Adept]

24. No, because what he did was legal

[Caliman73]

44. Red Flag laws are about the potential for violence.

Unless the police or family members ( in some cases) submitted a petition to have the guy's guns removed, and a judge agreed, there would be no reason to take them away.

We can certainly agree that the guy is an asshole, but he didn't do anything illegal in his state.

[Buns_of_Fire]

16. Dumbass managed to get himself arrested *anyway*.

He was arrested, however, after he was found to have a recently-issued unrelated warrant and to be in possession of an over .45-caliber firearm and brass knuckles, both of which are illegal in Oklahoma.

It could be worse. He could have been brandishing a dildo in Alabama.

[Voltaire2]

17. Amazingly brass knuckles are illegal.

But not walking around with an assault rifle and body armor.

They’ve all gone fucking insane.

[malaise]

18. Bet he felt like a real man

[purr-rat beauty]

20. If I see someone meandering around with firearms and tactical gear...

I'm getting out, alarming others, and contacting authorities

This shit is a REAL mental illness

[Torchlight]

21. People do weird things to get attention

Hell, I wore a Members Only jacket in high school to get eyeballs, but (thankfully) was able to get it out of my system before I graduated.

[gldstwmn]

46. Your jacket wouldn't have killed anyone.

It might have gotten you a spot in a Whitesnake video though.

[Ilsa]

22. I wonder if he complained about the lack of customer service?

I wouldn't wait on him either.

[slater71]

25. Like I said before.

A person starts shooting in Walmart. Everyone who carries now has their weapon out. The police come and enter the store and all these people have their guns out. How many people get shot because almost all of them do not know who the shooter was or where he was?

[Wounded Bear]

28. Ding! Ding! Ding!

The down side of "open carry" laws.

Who's the bad guy?

[mackdaddy]

26. Don't know about OK, but in OH any business can post a NO WEAPONS sign.

This make is illegal to carry a weapon into the establishment. Even with concealed carry.

But the repubs have changed a lot of the rules here in Ohio, such as "Constitutional Carry" and changing knife carry laws. Although you do not have to have a CCW license to carry a weapon, all of the rules about being a convicted felon, and other legal & mental situations still apply. Could get a lot of these fools like this guy arrested,

This is also where "Red Flag" laws could help in expanded ways. David Hogg was being interviewed and described how in Florida some MAGA crazy sent his mother a death threat about the NRA. They were able to use the Scott signed Red Flag laws in Florida to actually have the MAGA have his weapons seized, and his "Right" to "keep and bear arms" terminated.

[Wingus Dingus]

27. Fucking insanity, that we have to wait for them to start shooting at us

to determine our level of risk with these maniacs walking around--and they like it that way. Probably have a boner the whole time, watching how nervous people get around them. Fuck these gun nut clowns.

[allegorical oracle]

30. At risk of sounding paranoid, I'm already feeling antsy when I go to any of the big box stores. In

Florida, we've had concealed carry for a fairly long time. Even my neighbor says he's always armed wherever he goes. Now, open carry has been gifted to us by Ron DeSatan so I'll prolly be leaving a lot of stores.

[EX500rider]

40. Open carry is still illegal in Fla as far as I know

Openly carrying a gun is illegal in Florida. It's a second-degree misdemeanor with a $500 fine or a maximum of 60 days in jail.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/02/constitutional-carry-florida-desantis-making-open-and-concealed-carry-firearms-guns-legal/9614391002/

[mmbrevo]

31. AT&T salesmen

I would imagine these guys are always looking over their shoulders with the amount of lies they tell people.

[LuckyCharms]

42. I was in a Verizon store once.

Some guy came in, 50's I'd say, and told an employee that he had a picture somewhere on his phone and he could not find it.

The employee starting asking a few questions like:

Did you receive the picture in a text or email?

Did you take the picture with the camera on your phone?

The customer totally lost his shit.

HOW THE FUCK SHOULD I KNOW YOU DUMB SON OF A BITCH. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FUCKING EXPERT HERE. JUST FIND MY GODDAMN PICTURE SO I CAN GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. JESUS CHRIST YOU FUCKING PEOPLE PISS ME OFF.

Guy was screaming at the top of his lungs.

I got the hell out of there in a hurry.

[rockfordfile]

34. See how f up that is to allow people to carry guns anywhere? No reason to bring a gun in any store.

So GOP in Oklahoma allows terrorist to get so far in as to decide whether to mass murder or not? Think about that.
Timothy McVeigh wannabes in Oklahoma.

[drmeow]

35. I was in a dollar store

and saw a man with a handgun on his hip. I left my cart where it was and left the store. I knew it was legal and did not think he was going to become an active shooter but I wasn't comfortable. I didn't call the cops or anything but I also was not willing to be potentially trapped in that store if something happened.

[ZonkerHarris]

43. You must be a huge coward of everyday life to need a gun at the cell phone store.

snowflake

[gldstwmn]

45. Good luck Oklahomans, you're going to need it.

Maybe try voting for Democrats. Is Constitutional Carry a new thing in OK? Can't private businesses prohibit firearms on their premises?