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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,211 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:31 AM Jun 2022

No, Texas can't legally secede from the U.S., despite popular myth

I have heard this myth over the years. It is not true



https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/

In June 2022, the Texas State Republican Convention adopted a resolution urging the Legislature to put a referendum before the people of Texas in November 2023 “to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation.”

Secession and independence have been perennial themes throughout the history of Texas, which broke away from Mexico in 1836 and was an independent republic before it was annexed by the United States in 1845. As the United States was torn apart by divisions over whether slavery could expand into the nation’s western territories, Texas in 1861 voted to secede from the Union. In the ensuing Civil War, up to 750,000 people — more than 2 percent of all Americans — died. Following the defeat of the Confederacy in 1865, Texas was formally readmitted to the Union in 1870, during the Reconstruction Era.

Despite perennial talk of another secession, the law is clear that Texas may not leave the union.

The idea is most often raised by conservatives in the state who are angry over some kind of policy coming from the federal government — and the calls seem to become more frequent when a Democrat is occupying the White House. State Rep. Kyle Biedermann, R-Fredericksburg, filed a bill in 2021 to create a referendum election on whether Texans should create a joint legislative committee “to develop a plan for achieving Texas independence.”

“It is now time that the People of Texas are allowed the right to decide their own future,” he said in a statement announcing the legislation.

Even if the Legislature were to act on the new Republican Party proposal to put an independence referendum on the general election, it would not be legally valid.
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No, Texas can't legally secede from the U.S., despite popular myth (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 OP
But as soon as they do it it becomes legal Polybius Jun 2022 #1
All Biden has to do is close all the military bases in Texas, now Captain Zero Jun 2022 #2
Yes Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #3
Think of the terrible unemployment if the military bases were closed. And the poor patricia92243 Jun 2022 #7
Some smaller bases need to be closed NOW, and they need to stay closed for good, just Nay Jun 2022 #12
I wouldn't have a problem if they did. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #4
Oh please give us some hope. gibraltar72 Jun 2022 #5
They should have to do without any Federal money, laws, etc for a year - then patricia92243 Jun 2022 #6
I think they should hold the referendum anyway. AFTER GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #8
Damn, it was such a delightful daydream. My Biophilic Jun 2022 #9
Sell it back to Mexico. multigraincracker Jun 2022 #10
Why would the Mexicans want that mess? nt albacore Jun 2022 #15
For the economy. former9thward Jun 2022 #17
I was speaking about the other parts.... the racism, the bone-headed capitalism... albacore Jun 2022 #18
The people that Texans have elected seem to think they can. I say give it a chance. Autumn Jun 2022 #11
If only there were a way to call their bluff and let them secede TlalocW Jun 2022 #13
It can be taken to the Supreme Court as a case. roamer65 Jun 2022 #14
We have some awesome Democrats in Texas. KentuckyWoman Jun 2022 #16
Stop telling Texas to secede. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #19

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
2. All Biden has to do is close all the military bases in Texas, now
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 03:51 AM
Jun 2022

Since it looks like they are going.
Oh close down all the NASA stuff down there too.
And VA and FHA loans for homes.

Until they take it out of their platform.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
3. Yes
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 05:30 AM
Jun 2022

It is responsible for the U.S.Government military and all agencies begin to close down in an orderly way.

Republicans in Texas have “fired across the bow” warning the U.S. Government not to “mess with Texas”.

As a U.S. taxpayer I demand the U.S. Government cut funds to Republicans who spend it on secession dreams. If Republicans, want to secede, let them start paying for it NOW with their own money.

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
7. Think of the terrible unemployment if the military bases were closed. And the poor
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 07:11 AM
Jun 2022

soldiers would be stuck in a foreign country without a visa. Just one of the many things the silly ones do not think of.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
12. Some smaller bases need to be closed NOW, and they need to stay closed for good, just
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jun 2022

to show TX that we're serious. You want to mess with the Feds? No problem. There's plenty of Fed shit to close down in TX, and we can start now. Oh, and once it closes, it doesn't open ever again. You want to threaten secession again? Ooops, more shit closes and stays closed.

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
6. They should have to do without any Federal money, laws, etc for a year - then
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 07:07 AM
Jun 2022

let them vote on it. They won't have three votes.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
8. I think they should hold the referendum anyway. AFTER
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:16 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Tue Jun 21, 2022, 11:33 AM - Edit history (1)

it is explained to the people of Texas just exactly what would happen if they did get their way, just to make a point. These secessionist idiots all think everything will stay the same, except for the name change. None of them ever think things all the way through. It's long past time they have the ramifications explained to them. I'm pretty sure that once people understand what it means to secede, the vast majority will vote against it. With any luck, it might also stifle any further talk of seceding for a good long time. It is beyond old hearing that blather all the time. And, maybe they'll finally wake up to the pack of lies they're being fed by these anti-American fucks, and stop electing them into office.

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
17. For the economy.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jun 2022

The GDP of Mexico is $1 trillion. The GDP of Texas is $1.8 trillion. Which is why Mexico could not afford it.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
18. I was speaking about the other parts.... the racism, the bone-headed capitalism...
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 03:33 PM
Jun 2022

..the good ol' boys... the environmental damage.. etc

Oh, yeah... and the guns. Mexico needs more guns.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
13. If only there were a way to call their bluff and let them secede
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jun 2022

That didn't harm the sane people in Texas.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. It can be taken to the Supreme Court as a case.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jun 2022

It is ultimately the SCOTUS that would decide if it is constitutional or not.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
16. We have some awesome Democrats in Texas.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jun 2022

Just not enough. Please think before offering the whole of Texas to the devil.

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