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spanone

(135,832 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:42 AM Jun 2022

Hyde hurdle: abortion slows gun bill text

TEXT TESTS GUN DEAL TIMELINE — Senate negotiators and their staff spent the long weekend putting the finishing touches on bipartisan gun safety legislation but haven't yet released text. The Senate is back in session today and aides are expecting that text will be made public soon. (There were previous expectations of a bill drop on Monday afternoon or evening, but that didn’t pan out.)

What’s the holdup? A GOP source familiar with the long weekend’s talks tells us that the Hyde Amendment, which bars the use of federal funds to pay for abortion, has come into play in the discussions over the bill’s health care provisions. That means that two of the most divisive and visceral political issues in the country – guns and abortion – could be paired together.

Recess reality: If the Senate moves forward procedurally this afternoon, that could still set up final passage by the end of the week. (Theoretically, the process could bleed into the weekend absent cooperation from all 100 senators, but the Senate is also scheduled to leave at the end of the week for a two-week recess.)

If there is no legislative language today, the goal of passing the bill before the Independence Day recess could be out of reach. As legislative action gets pushed back again and again , negotiators risk losing the momentum and political will that brought them together in the first place immediately after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers in Uvalde, Texas and a racist mass shooter opened fire and killed ten people at a supermarket in Buffalo, N.Y.


https://www.politico.com/newsletters/huddle/2022/06/21/if-text-lags-timeline-could-falter-on-guns-00040915
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Hyde hurdle: abortion slows gun bill text (Original Post) spanone Jun 2022 OP
Make two separate bills jimfields33 Jun 2022 #1
They are called Poison Pills. Add something that will kill the original bill. Lochloosa Jun 2022 #2
So ridiculous and unnecessary jimfields33 Jun 2022 #3
I think those are called "clean bills"? Karma13612 Jun 2022 #4
As usual, delay, delay, delay. Triggering event slips into the past... Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #5
Charlie Bown keeps trying to kick that football. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #6
Because doing it without them isn't possible Amishman Jun 2022 #7
And yet, unsurprisingly, doing it with them is also impossible. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #8

jimfields33

(15,801 posts)
1. Make two separate bills
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:59 AM
Jun 2022

Not sure why they add stuff to bills anyway. The gun safety bill must pass before vacation. They have 4 days left. Upon their returns will be all campaigning. Remember august is another month they are not in session. They return after Labor Day.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
4. I think those are called "clean bills"?
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:41 AM
Jun 2022

Yea, it’s really pathetic how bills are turned into sludge with these tactics of combining non-related issues to block everything.

And it’s also how politicians are skewered for voting certain ways. You only hear that they voted “yea” or “no” on a bill that you were routing for. You rarely hear the why. If a good bill contains a very bad provision, you aren’t aware unless someone actually gets airtime or camera time to explain why they voted no or yes on something.

The system is broken.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
5. As usual, delay, delay, delay. Triggering event slips into the past...
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jun 2022

public support wavers or is distracted to other shiny objects/squirrels.

Nothing gets done.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. Charlie Bown keeps trying to kick that football.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

Democrats keep trying to work with Republicans on guns.

Why bother?

It is just a charade.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
7. Because doing it without them isn't possible
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jun 2022

We don't have the votes to do it alone.

With the outlook for Nov, that is unlikely to change.

With the Senate map for 2024, probably won't change then either

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
8. And yet, unsurprisingly, doing it with them is also impossible.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

Quite a fine mess we have gotten ourselves into.

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