****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 4, thread ONE (1:00 pm EDT) ****

[BumRushDaShow]

Happy to fill in for Scrivener7 to host the play-by-play of the 4th hearing of the J6 Committee. So grab some and and enjoy! Like the previous 3 broadcast segments, this hearing is expected to last about 2 hours.

CSPAN3, for those who have access to that cable channel, will be broadcasting it on TV starting at 12:45 pm EDT.

For those without a TV and/or who are unable to watch (at work or home or if traveling, etc), here are a few of what are many streams that can be used to view/listen to today's session -

[Ohio Joe]

1. I'm here...

Thanks for the thread

[Marthe48]

2. Thank you

Hoping to watch. Have some things going on in my corner of the world

[StarryNite]

3. Thank you!

[ancianita]

4. Thank you! It's a day to see what clear and present danger looks like at election levels.

[woodsprite]

5. I purposely saved my "set up new equipment" time for this.

That way I’m off line and not disturbed. I figure that setting up/configuring my new workstation should buy me enough to time for 2 hearings 😁

[Emile]

6. 5 minutes to start. Gonna b good.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Finally got back in here to come up for air!

[BumRushDaShow]

8. NOW STARTING

[Lars39]

9. The Committee site is also using sign language!

[Novara]

10. I love listening to Bennie Thompson

Just that. That's the post.

[ancianita]

11. Good summary and purpose of electoral law from Chairman Thompson.

He previews Trump running in through electoral weeds to corrupt them across states.

[nolabear]

12. I've never been so happy to have a massage cancelled.

I’m here, and the mental massage is worth far more.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Talking about the "gut feeling" NM election commisioner idiot

[Kali]

120. that clown is DUer Duhneece's special "friend"

good call out on the idiot

[BumRushDaShow]

126. Saw her mention of that guy

[irisblue]

14. Chair Bennie Thompson has a good writer.

[Tree Lady]

15. Here for hour then leaving

On RV trip, luckily hubby in shower or would bug me for watching. Everything is packed. 😎

[Lars39]

17. So jealous!

Hope you have an excellent trip!

[Tree Lady]

23. Thanks going to Lake Siskiyou

Near Mt Shasta in Norcal. Just doing a few short trips of RV this summer. This one till Friday. Our big trip is driving to Canada for 3 weeks in July and staying on this super cool Island Salt Springs Island in a cabin.

[Lars39]

31. Sounds really nice!

Especially getting away from the heat!

[Tree Lady]

41. That's my plan! Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Hope you enjoy the trip and have a safe journey!

(NPR may be broadcasting on the radio)

[Tree Lady]

26. Thanks hubby would hate

So I will be checking on my phone 😁

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Announcing that Schiff will take the lead for today's presentation

[ancianita]

19. Go, Liz Cheney! Go, Adam Schiff!

[Lars39]

20. We're going to hear tapes of calls to states!

[nolabear]

21. I cannot believe I look forward to hearing Liz Cheney speak.

Bizarro World, indeed.

[livetohike]

22. Liz Cheney urging all viewers to focus on the

evidence and not the politics.

[Lars39]

24. Schiff is speaking now

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Played clip of GA election official Gabriel Sterling's pressers

demanding that the threats "must top"

[BumRushDaShow]

27. Schiff's opening statement going now...

[berniesandersmittens]

28. It's a bit surreal seeing Raffensberger and Sterling at the witness table

I hope they're words make a difference this time.

[uponit7771]

29. Yep, fake Trump electors weren't the end of the BS ...

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Schiff talking about the fake electors scheme

"conspiracy to defraud the United States"

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Played the Barr clip calling asserting "fraud" was "bullshit"

[ancianita]

33. Schiff: then came Trump's pressure campaign that threatened violence and even death.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Dangerous escalation of threats and violence

[nolabear]

35. It's so easy to forget how utterly gut wrenching this whole thing was.

Not just the riot, but the entire attempted coup, the agony of the attorneys general, the horror of the governors, his advisors realizing what they had on their hands, the utter madness of Giuliani and that Kraken woman (blocking her name-Sydney something).

Remember the days of worry and horror and disbelief? This has to be prevented from EVER happening again.

[tblue37]

60. Sydney Powell.

[nolabear]

64. Oh yeah. That woman is not well.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Playing clip of MI SOS and protest outside of her house

[Lars39]

37. Showed crowd outside of Michigan sec of state

[livetohike]

38. Playing clip of Michigan's Sec of State who had a protest

outside her home.

[Best_man23]

42. Its a miracle none of the state election workers

Were not physically injured or killed by these lunatic fringe protesters.

[livetohike]

49. My stomach is churning just watching the lengths these

sychophants and others went to support the lie.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. One of the Committee counsels is narrating clips

of Ghouliani et., al., describing the strategy and their contacts to state officials arguing that they should overturn the election.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Talking about the WH meeting

with officials from PA and MI

(I know that was the day they held the Gettysburg superspreader)

[Lars39]

43. Guliani continued to reach out.

eww

[nolabear]

44. Oh. Right. Jenna Ellis.

[BumRushDaShow]

45. Playing clips of Ghouliani and Ellis calling PA House loon speaker Bryan Cutler

then he was doxed.

[Wednesdays]

46. PA speaker of the house was doxxed

They need to make doxxing illegal!

[Lars39]

47. Nick Fuentes..."what can we do...besides kill the them".

Damn

[nolabear]

53. I hope they go after every one of his media whores.

They just keep promoting this dangerous diatribe.

[Lars39]

55. Totally agree!

[KPN]

131. Haven't been able to watch. Can you provide a little more

background?

[Lars39]

132. He was speaking on some show I think....

Saying what else can we do except kill them?

[JustAnotherGen]

48. "The Punishment for Treason is Death"

Note magat.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Schiff listed the panel and concluded his remarks - Thompson introducing them now

[Lars39]

51. First panel of witnesses, sworn in...

Rusty Bower, Raffensberger, Sterling

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Witnesses being sworn in...

[BumRushDaShow]

54. AZ Speaker of state House Bowers up

and confirmed that Biden won the election. Schiff is now starting his questioning.

[Lars39]

56. Bowers denying he said the election was rigged

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Bowers: "Anywhere, anytime, anyone/election was rigged" quote

attributed to Bowers by 45 "was not true".

[Efilroft Sul]

58. Bowers reminds me of Ed Harris.

[BumRushDaShow]

63. LOL

an "older Ed Harris" (although I left off with Harris in the '90s )

[Mersky]

68. Totally.

A striking resemblance.

[livetohike]

59. Bowers summarizing a call he had from Trump

and Guilliani.

[Novara]

61. Jeebus, this shit makes me physically ill.

[livetohike]

65. Me too. I can barely watch. I'm trying to participate but

this evidence is overwhelming.

[nolabear]

62. Oh I hope he's watching. Calling him a liar to his orange face.

I couldn’t love it more.

[Lars39]

66. Bowers asked for names of immigrants, dead voters, etc, never received them.

[livetohike]

67. Bowers said no dead people voted. n/t

👍🏻🙂

[BumRushDaShow]

69. Bowers: Told there was a "legal theory in AZ" to replace the electors

and he said he told them that they would do no such thing against his oath.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. Bowers: Asked "Aren't we all Republicans? I thought we would get a better reception"

[BumRushDaShow]

71. Bowers: "The Constitituion is 'divinely inspired'"

[livetohike]

72. I believe the Constitution is divinely inspired and I couldn't

deny my oath”.

[Lars39]

73. Here we go again...The Constitution is divinely inspired

Me:whatever it takes to hook the evangelicals

[FreeState]

133. And Mormons n/t

[ancianita]

74. He looks as if he's choking on the memory.

He refused their request for a legislative hearing to review "hearsay evidence."

Them: You have doubts. Break your oath.

Bowers: It is contrary to my being. I will not do it.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Bowers: Legislators can hold a meeting but as House Speaker denied an official "hearing"

[Mersky]

86. A meeting with Giuliani in a Phoenix ballroom doesn't constitute an official hearing

Not even if the ballroom smells of turf and lawn chemicals.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. LOL

Same went for the clown show in Gettysburg -

Link to tweet

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
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It’s RBE: Ramada Ballroom Energy.

The GOP Battleground State Tour Snake-Handlin’ Jamboree ‘20.

Gettysburg ❇️ Phoenix ❇️ Lansing

No Proof Required ❇️ B.Y.O.S. 🐍
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Todd Spangler
@tsspangler
Fiery Giuliani tells Michigan lawmakers election stolen, offers no credible evidence https://freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/02/giuliani-hearing-allegations-no-evidence-election-fraud/3795651001/
via @freep
7:34 AM · Dec 3, 2020 from West Homestead, PA

[Mersky]

106. Bwah! Fetterman, ftw! Ballroom energy -- it's Giuliani's method.

Emphasis on meth.

[Novara]

76. I hate it that we're shocked by republicans with integrity

It shouldn't be a big deal when they actually do their damn jobs.

[BumRushDaShow]

77. (shell game) Bowers to Ellis - "Do you have the proof? Do you have the evidence with you?"

Bower: Ellis response: "No but we can get it to you".

[Efilroft Sul]

78. Giuliani: "We don't have evidence, but we have a lot of theories." Oh, wow.

Don't know whether to laugh or laugh harder.

[Novara]

82. That gun is starting to smoke, isn't it?

[BumRushDaShow]

79. Bowers: "No one provided any such evidence, ever" (election fraud)

[Novara]

80. Wow.

Link to tweet

[Ohio Joe]

81. Heh... The Qnut Shaman puts in an appearance...

[ancianita]

83. Now a never seen video of the occupation of the AZ statehouse, with the Shaman dude and

occupiers literally calling for Bowers.

[BumRushDaShow]

84. Showed clips of the Shaman in previous unshown footage illegally in AZ state office

and again in the Senate chamber

[livetohike]

85. Bowers had a 2nd call from Trump and Bowers told him he would

not do what Trump wanted him to do.

[nolabear]

87. Welp, there goes Eastman.

🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌

[Lars39]

88. "Do it and let the courts sort it out."

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Bowers:"What would you have me do?" (decertify) - "Just do it and let the courts figure it out"

[berniesandersmittens]

90. Andy Biggs asked for Bowers to support decertification of electors

[lindysalsagal]

91. These video captures of local officials protecting the law are reassuring

I think this returns us to the country we were before we were polluted by tfg. He and his minions got all the screen time, so, now it feels good to put all of these officials on record, telling how tfg was told but did not listen.

[livetohike]

92. Schiff asking why Bowers included a quote from Ronald

Reagan in his opening statement.

[BumRushDaShow]

94. Schiff: Fake electors plan continued even after the lawsuits were lost

[BumRushDaShow]

95. Committee lawyer narrating new set of clips

including some testimony from a Mark Meadows aide.

[speak easy]

96. There's something in the air

[Lars39]

97. White House counsel knew it was illegal

Swapping out the electors

[ancianita]

98. The WH memo told the electors to meet for signing "in complete secrecy."

The battleground fake electors submitted them, knowing they were illegally formed and not approved by legislatures.

[BumRushDaShow]

99. Showing copies of the fake electoral votes

after 6 state fake electors met on December 14 in their states.

[BumRushDaShow]

100. Pence: His role was to count not to transmit fake electors

[Ohio Joe]

101. "A tragic parody"

Holy shit...

[BumRushDaShow]

102. Bowers in response about the group in AZ submitting fake electors: "Gang that can't shoot straight"

(I looked at those AX docs earlier and they were submitted by a "Sovereign Citizens" group).

[livetohike]

103. Bowers sharing a passage from his personal journal.

Reading the passage - he did not want to be a winner by cheating. He asked God for guidance.

[nolabear]

104. Uh-oh. It's the "You turned on me" speech.

Lie down with dogs, dude…

[WiVoter]

105. Did I Hear Right? Ron Johnson Wanted The Ballots

From the fake electors so he could hand deliver them to Pence?

[Lars39]

107. That's what I caught, too!

[Mersky]

127. Showed text messages from Johnson's staffer to Pence's staff on Jan 6 at 12:37 pm

Riley texted, “Johnson needs to hand something to VPOTUS please advise”

Hodgson replies, “What is it?”

Riley: Alternate slate of electors for MI and WI because archivist didn’t receive them

Hodgson: Do not give that to him

___
Had to review that text during the recess. Is bananas that Johnson pursued that for MI and WI on January 6th.

[WiVoter]

129. Thank you

For the documentation.

[livetohike]

108. Bowers and family dreading Saturdays because they are

being harassed and threatened by various groups.

[ancianita]

114. By the tens of thousands, such that their office couldn't function,

and his family was traumatized, and continue to be to this very day.

I'm amazed at how he restrains his pain.

[livetohike]

118. I'm nearly crying. So heart wrenching how public

servants are treated.

[ancianita]

123. This is the clear and present danger we face, not just from Jan 6 but in battleground states.

If the Republicans can hold strong against it, WE must be even stronger.

[Lonestarblue]

128. Those Republicans did hold strong, but how many of them will even be there for 2022 and 2024?

Many Trump supporters are running for elections office so they can be the ones to certify an election, which they will do only for Republicans.

[ancianita]

130. Thus the calls for purging "RINOs".

Yep, they want to clear the decks and take over for their capo.

[BumRushDaShow]

109. Loons called Bowers "a pedophile"

and blaring speakers through his neighborhood.

Getting emotional about people brandishing guns at him.

[nolabear]

119. Yeah. Go figure.

THAT should only happen to libruls, right?

[Lars39]

110. Bowers talking about groups in front of his house

One armed

[BumRushDaShow]

111. ***TAKING 5 MINUTE RECESS***

[demtenjeep]

112. Jesus

Something needs to be done about this violence

[Lars39]

113. 5 minutes recess

[Novara]

115. Jeebus, I fucking HATE those motherfuckers

[nolabear]

116. I've seen lots of tears from grabbing that tiger by the tail.

[BumRushDaShow]

117. ***THREAD TWO IS UP***

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216825338

[Novara]

121. Whow woulda thought the republican speaker of the AZ legislature would make me cry ...

... in sympathy for what his family had to go through?

[Hokie]

122. Bowers is a powerful witness but ...

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I am really sick of him wearing his religion on his sleeve. He said the Constitution was divinely inspired. He invoked his faith ad nauseum.

[mucifer]

124. This is VERY deliberate. They don't need to convince us. As a Jew, I'm fine with it Not because

I believe it . I don't.

But, he can reach people those like me cannot

[MLAA]

125. I too was uncomfortable with his touting his religion and how

Hypocritical that his faith did not stop him from voting for trump twice. That said, he was a wonderful witness. Clear, crisp, factual and nailed trump, Rudy, Eastman, Biggs. My hat (if I had one) is tipped to Bowers. I appreciate how he protected my state from participating in the fake electors clown show.