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Novara

(5,842 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:21 PM Jun 2022

Forget treason. Charge him with sedition (easier to prove) and TERRORISM

That motherfucker singled out specific citizens doing their jobs and sicced the mob on them. A woman who loved to help old people vote and her mother will never be the same ever again. They live in fear even now. They've been terrorized.

Charge him as a terrorist.

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Forget treason. Charge him with sedition (easier to prove) and TERRORISM (Original Post) Novara Jun 2022 OP
Nobody was ever going to charge him with Treason. brooklynite Jun 2022 #1
Former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner alluded to it in one of his recent broadcasts Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #5
It's not compelling at all. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #6
Only that's not entirely correct Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #8
And OLDMDDEM Jun 2022 #2
I wonder if any members of that flash mob breaching Grandma's home Frasier Balzov Jun 2022 #10
There is no federal crime of domestic "terrorism". onenote Jun 2022 #3
And that is a big part of what's wrong in this country Novara Jun 2022 #4
Trump the Grand Wizard sent his Klan Night Riders out to terrorize the uppity blacks. sop Jun 2022 #7
I'm looking forward to a nice, big, Juicy RICO charge. alittlelark Jun 2022 #9

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. Former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner alluded to it in one of his recent broadcasts
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jun 2022

Had a compelling argument as to how treason should be included in the charges against DJT.

Politically, though, it carries no weight and frankly would cast a shadow on the other, more provable, charges.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
6. It's not compelling at all.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jun 2022

Treason requires an active, declared war. Anyone talking about this as treason doesn't know what they're talking about.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651

I think many are confusing treason, which this is clearly not, with sedition, which it almost certainly is.

If the Rosenbergs couldn't meet the bar, Trump certainly doesn't.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. Only that's not entirely correct
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

According to the United States Constitution, Article III, § 3, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Kirschner argues that many constitutional scholars get caught up in the second of the two manners to commit the crime: "adhering to their Enemies", and not the first: "Levying war against (the United States).

Once Trump realized he had lost the election, he nevertheless persisted in pursuing a coup against the government he ostensibly led.

Kirschner says it better. I'm not saying that I think it's viable, but it adds flavor in discussions that many times overlook the actual verbiage.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
4. And that is a big part of what's wrong in this country
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

Congress should have passed a domestic terrorism statute after Oklahoma City. The fucking Bundys would never have gotten away with their bullshit, the assholes who occupied Malheur would have been thrown in prison. The insurrectionists wouldn't be getting away with light sentences.

sop

(10,177 posts)
7. Trump the Grand Wizard sent his Klan Night Riders out to terrorize the uppity blacks.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jun 2022

Shay Moss did say she thought it was like living in 1920s, the KKK's zenith in Georgia, not 2020.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
9. I'm looking forward to a nice, big, Juicy RICO charge.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:57 PM
Jun 2022

All the ingredients are on the counter. I hope Garland is a good cook.

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