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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy haven't some of these people sued Trump?
Over the damages they faced because of his retaliatory, dishonest behavior? Im thinking of people like Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss. Is it because they fear vengeance from his mob?
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,129 posts)I personally believe that there is enough evidence to bring charges against and convict TFG. This was a planned coup and there is some great evidence showing the TFG knew or should have known that the election was valid. I also believe that TFG will not dare to go to trial on a well pled federal case. If nothing else, TFG has alienated the top tier defense firm and is currently being represented by shopping center lawyers who are weak
I have worked on a number of plaintiff case over my career and have even argued several summary judgments. The evidence being produced by the Jan. 6 committee is compelling. TFG is being sued under the KKK Act in four or five cases and the evidence that the Jan 6 committee has available would kill TFG in these civil cases
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-committee-s-intel-could-be-used-to-sue-trump-into-oblivion-even-if-he-isn-t-charged-with-a-crime-report/
"While its doubtful the hearings will meet the sky-high expectations of those who believed the committee would expose open-and-shut wrongdoing from some of the nations top officials, the prime-time hearings will deliver one thing: evidence for many of the lawsuits seeking to make former President Donald Trump and other election denialists actually pay for the violence," reported Jose Pagliery. "'What the committee can't do is hold people accountable. But thats where criminal prosecutions and civil litigation comes in,' said Edward G. Caspar, an attorney representing injured and traumatized Capitol Police officers who are suing Trump after the violence insurrection."
As the report noted, the committee will be revealing a treasure trove of information for anyone who wants to pursue Trump civilly.
"According to the panel, it has interviewed more than 1,000 witnesses and collected at least 140,000 documents, obtained through subpoenas and delivered under oath," said the report. "Attorneys working on cases against Trump are already considering how to get that evidence in some cases, videos or interview transcripts into a form thats admissible in court for their cases. Luckily for those attorneys, the witnesses who spoke to the committee were already under oath when they testified."
"One of the attorneys on [Congressman Eric] Swalwells legal team, Phil Andonian, thinks new evidence might persuade the judge that theres a strong enough case that the Republican congressman bore some responsibility for the damage at the Capitol," said the report. "It was already known that Brooks, a Trump loyalist who peddled all kinds of disproven voter fraud claims, wore a bulletproof vest on the morning of Jan. 6 when he told riled up protesters near the White House that their ancestors had 'sacrificed their blood and sometimes their lives.'"
This are torts that may be discharged in Bankruptcy and there may be a remedy available under the KKK Act to ban TFG from holding future federal office
I am going to enjoye these civil cases
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)iemanja
(53,031 posts)Hekate
(90,643 posts)Thank you for all this info!
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)The pundit said that they should get attorneys since they have a good case. Who knows where the $$$ to pay them would come from though.
iemanja
(53,031 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)Ocelot II
(115,670 posts)and the case is still pending. They have settled with OANN and Channel Rion, which means they probably can afford to keep their case going against Rudy. https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/rudy-giuliani-still-on-the-hook-as-oan-formally-settles-georgia-election-workers-defamation-case-on-fair-and-reasonable-terms/
iemanja
(53,031 posts)Thanks for the info!
Dan
(3,548 posts)When these actions were taken.
And, they would need the approval of the Government to sue him now - for actions taken during that period.
Ocelot II
(115,670 posts)in the course of the president's official duties; this is the issue before the 2nd Circuit in E. Jean Carroll's defamation case against TFG. But discovery in that case has started up again even though the court of appeals hasn't ruled yet. https://abovethelaw.com/2022/05/trump-taps-out-finally-agrees-to-discovery-in-e-jean-carroll-defamation-case/
Hekate
(90,643 posts)He sends thugs out to shake people up. Additionally, he has more money than nearly anyone else to hire lawyers.
We could hope that his current troubles would slow him down but have you noticed hes managed to raise $250 million for his PAC off the rubes and marks since he left office? His own private piggy bank.
I always shake my head when people here advise this or that person suing Trump. Its like that joke about fighting a pig: you both get filthy, and the pig likes it.
What I hope for is the full force of state and federal governments to come down on him.