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Bucky

(54,003 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 12:02 AM Jun 2022

The actual criminal charges

From the Just Security blog, these are the likely criminal charges against the Trump conspirators:

Federal

18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2) – Obstruction of congressional proceedings

Whoever corruptly . . . obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


18 U.S.C. § 371 – Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire . . . to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


18 U.S.C. § 494 – Contractors’ bonds, bids, and public records

Whoever falsely makes, alters, forges, or counterfeits any bond, bid, proposal, contract, guarantee, security, official bond, public record, affidavit, or other writing for the purpose of defrauding the United States; or . . .Whoever transmits to, or presents at any office or to any officer of the United States, any such false, forged, altered, or counterfeited writing, knowing the same to be false, forged, altered, or counterfeited —Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


52 U.S.C. § 20511(2)(b)

A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office – knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair impartially conducted election process, by the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held, shall be fined in accordance with title 18.


18 U.S.C. § 1001 – Statements or entries generally

Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—

(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; …
shall be fined under this title.


There's also an ongoing Georgia state criminal investigation in Fulton County, which has included the fake electors to see if they knew they were part of a plot to intimidate election officials or if they're just patsies. A county Grand Jury was appointed last month to refer any possible charges

Finally there's a pending civil action in Wisconsin filed on behalf of two legitimate Electors against 10 "alternate" Electors and Trump campaign attorneys James R. Troupis and Kenneth Chesebro, who "coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level,” which involved “multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives."

This overall scheme is charged to have violated various state and federal laws, including:
  • 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2) – Impeding Official Proceeding
  • 18 U.S.C. § 371 – Defrauding the United States of a Government Department’s Lawful Function, and
  • 18 U.S.C. § 494 – Knowingly Forging and Transmitting Public Record

    It's gonna be a busy summer, yall
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    The actual criminal charges (Original Post) Bucky Jun 2022 OP
    Very interesting !! Karadeniz Jun 2022 #1
    How about conspiracy to commit sedition? iemanja Jun 2022 #2
    +1 Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #3
    Only a jury can determine that Bucky Jun 2022 #9
    the Trump conspirators: ---- What about TRUMP himself. Did he break the laws? Trueblue1968 Jun 2022 #4
    The testimony says Bucky Jun 2022 #10
    Were we not introduced to a quarter billion dollar mail fraud scheme last week? Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #5
    I "voted" for the election integrity fraud usonian Jun 2022 #6
    Good to know. calimary Jun 2022 #7
    When is the DOJ going to pursue RICO investigation on the Republican Party? EOM concretebluetwo Jun 2022 #8
    THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #12
    This message was self-deleted by its author stillspkg Jun 2022 #11

    Bucky

    (54,003 posts)
    9. Only a jury can determine that
    Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:47 AM
    Jun 2022

    And it'll take years to get there.

    But if you're following this hearing, you know the extent of his involvement.

    usonian

    (9,789 posts)
    6. I "voted" for the election integrity fraud
    Wed Jun 22, 2022, 01:18 AM
    Jun 2022
    https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216813088

    In terms of being a last minute and hence not well planned scheme with no escape route ( he ran out of evil geniuses and was left with evil lunatics) plus the fact that this could be a turning point issue with voters. It should be a slam dunk to take apart and get the goods on all involved.


    Snip:
    The grifters have humiliated, manipulated and sent their minions to the slammer, and "it's all good" but such a blatant act might be the flash point, where their utter disdain for the rubes crosses the RUBE I CON.



    Just keep this in mind.

    Dick Nixon didn't say "I am not a Democrat"

    He said:


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