General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think the Constitution was "divinely inspired" as Arizona Speaker of the House, Rusty Bower d
I do think his faith led Rusty to keep his oath of office. IMHO.
Do you think the Constitution was divinely inspired as Arizona Speaker of the House, Rusty Bower does.
Link to tweet
?s=20&t=7b8UCv79X8fe0dadCyLfNQ
Link to tweet
?s=20&t=7b8UCv79X8fe0dadCyLfNQ
The Founders went to pains *not* to invoke any devine source for the right & ability to govern ourselves. The source was & is We the People without the grace or guidance of a diety. This point is covered very well in The Founding Myth by Andrew Seidel @AndrewLSeidel
Link to tweet
?s=20&t=7b8UCv79X8fe0dadCyLfNQ
Link to tweet
?s=20&t=7b8UCv79X8fe0dadCyLfNQ
bucolic_frolic
(43,155 posts)AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)but it is also a living document that required amendments, so the original document was certainly not perfect from the start. We are hopefully evolving toward a more perfect union without going backwards.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)To claim it was "divinely inspired" you would first have to prove that something divine exists, then that the divine force chose to actively intervene.
The Constitution was novel in its idea of a representative Democracy in the age of absolute monarchy. It still suffered from the very human concepts of racism and sexism.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,526 posts)SLAVERY. Divine my ass.
Jerry2144
(2,101 posts)There is no such thing as Devine anything (other than the lovely and talented Bette Midler). God is a creation of man.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)If he felt led to do the right thing by the religious faith that he's free to hold as a citizen of the United States, I have no problem with that.
Anti-religious bigotry flowing when a person has taken the right stand--and one that in this case went against his own political interests--is not a good look.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Hysteria is not a good look.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)One badly overlooked aspect of faith - by believers and non-believers alike - is that faith is supposed to make a person uncomfortable, it's supposed to challenge a person's preconceived notions.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)He sure took a long time to come around and get a clue that Trump was up to no good.
Bowers' line that he wouldn't cross is all fine and good, but he knew there was corruption and amorality, pathological lying and deceit littered everywhere behind that line.
rurallib
(62,413 posts)murielm99
(30,738 posts)And I am a Christian.
The authority of the Constitution derives from the consent of the governed.
Bucky
(54,003 posts)There's some people see God's hand in all good turns of fortune. The worst is when folks say "God will not give any problems here not strong enough to handle" and out of politeness I don't respond "How do you translate that into Ethiopian?" because I'm not a complete asshole
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)upon how one defines "divinely inspired." I would not agree in the conservative christian definition.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)Torchlight
(3,332 posts)by the Magna Carta, by the Virginia Declaration or Rights, by the English Bill of Rights and so on. The sharpest tip of that influencing spear being John Locke.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)combined with the diligent work of our founding fathers.
John Locke was the "social contract" guy, right?
wryter2000
(46,040 posts)God didn't love black people or women.
NewHendoLib
(60,014 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)Not only do they think the Constitution is divinely inspired, they believe Trump was sent by God to carry it out. Heaven forbid (my one Biblical reference) they should read about the founding of the country and the writing of the documents.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)His biblical worldview was brought out in part because A., evangelicals of any stripe just cant help but testify for their god, and B., he may have been trying to show the MAGATS that he was a man of god like them so that they would stop harassing him.
And no, the Constitution was not divinely inspired. These were men that rejected rule of a divinely chosen king.
niyad
(113,295 posts)by the guiding principles of thr Haudenosaunee, the Six Nation Iroquois Confederacy.
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)FreeState
(10,572 posts)They are taught it is divinely inspired.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1992/02/the-divinely-inspired-constitution?lang=eng
maxsolomon
(33,328 posts)Electoral College
3/5 Compromise
2nd Amendment
2 Senators/State
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Grab em by the p.....y kinda guy...pompous and pitiful display of hypocracy....he even said, 20,000 illegal immigra ts..5000 dead...Rep. Adam Schiff came back with, so did they ever produce the evidence 20,000 illegal people..or 5000 dead people voted..? (People)..
As Jay Johnson explained, Bowers is all in with voter supression..I just can't stand hypocracy....
Deep State Witch
(10,425 posts)One basis for the U.S. Constitution was the democracy in ancient Athens, Greece. That was claimed to be divinely inspired by the Goddess Athena.
However, they are conflating the American "civil religion" with their own religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,185 posts)I do not share this belief.
Higherarky
(637 posts)NO.