Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:01 PM
StrictlyRockers (3,813 posts)
"Wait, not that kind of school!"![]() Link to tweet And what will happen when the Church of Satan inevitably sues the state for public funding? ![]()
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49 replies, 7386 views
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StrictlyRockers | Jun 22 | OP |
TreasonousBastard | Jun 22 | #1 | |
SCantiGOP | Jun 22 | #8 | |
dsc | Jun 22 | #38 | |
cannabis_flower | Jun 23 | #47 | |
dchill | Jun 22 | #2 | |
erronis | Jun 22 | #10 | |
moonshinegnomie | Jun 22 | #22 | |
Maraya1969 | Jun 22 | #30 | |
EarnestPutz | Jun 22 | #31 | |
Novara | Jun 22 | #3 | |
Lonestarblue | Jun 22 | #16 | |
Novara | Jun 22 | #18 | |
Girard442 | Jun 23 | #45 | |
pandr32 | Jun 22 | #4 | |
DBoon | Jun 22 | #5 | |
alphafemale | Jun 22 | #6 | |
HuskyOffset | Jun 22 | #7 | |
yonder | Jun 22 | #26 | |
Celerity | Jun 22 | #36 | |
IronLionZion | Jun 23 | #48 | |
plimsoll | Jun 22 | #9 | |
Probatim | Jun 22 | #21 | |
plimsoll | Jun 22 | #25 | |
IronLionZion | Jun 22 | #11 | |
NJCher | Jun 22 | #12 | |
IronLionZion | Jun 22 | #15 | |
Raster | Jun 22 | #23 | |
keithbvadu2 | Jun 22 | #39 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jun 22 | #13 | |
LeftInTX | Jun 22 | #14 | |
jonstl08 | Jun 22 | #17 | |
Evolve Dammit | Jun 22 | #19 | |
orleans | Jun 23 | #42 | |
GoodRaisin | Jun 23 | #43 | |
catbyte | Jun 22 | #20 | |
calimary | Jun 22 | #24 | |
Oppaloopa | Jun 22 | #27 | |
soldierant | Jun 22 | #28 | |
MomInTheCrowd | Jun 22 | #29 | |
niyad | Jun 22 | #32 | |
Torchlight | Jun 22 | #33 | |
LakeArenal | Jun 22 | #34 | |
TomSlick | Jun 22 | #35 | |
lpbk2713 | Jun 22 | #37 | |
Liberal In Texas | Jun 22 | #40 | |
Best_man23 | Jun 22 | #41 | |
ck4829 | Jun 23 | #44 | |
pazzyanne | Jun 23 | #46 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Jun 23 | #49 |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:03 PM
TreasonousBastard (41,038 posts)
1. Or a Jewish one.
Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:46 PM
SCantiGOP (12,451 posts)
8. That was my first thought too
Every town of any size has a Jewish day school.
Let's make sure the crazies realize that their dream of tax money to religious schools will also will be going to schools that teach that we are still waiting for the Messiah. |
Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #8)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 07:39 PM
dsc (51,222 posts)
38. Not in most of the South
Only the very large cities (Raleigh, Charlotte, Winston Salem and Greensboro) along with college towns (Chapel Hill). Now that will lead to some Jewish schools getting dollars, it won't be a huge number.
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Response to dsc (Reply #38)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:24 AM
cannabis_flower (3,584 posts)
47. More than you would expect
The mosque that got burned down in Victoria, Texas apparently has a school.
https://tylerpaper.com/news/local/muslims-in-victoria-recall-changes-since-2017-mosque-fire/article_f3b15840-91c3-11e8-bf1a-cb126250f037.amp.html Victoria,Texas has about 65,000 people in the 2020 census. |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:04 PM
dchill (31,991 posts)
2. Isn't it finally time for a publicly-funded atheist school?
I think so-o!
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Response to dchill (Reply #2)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:50 PM
erronis (11,211 posts)
10. I'd be happy to get $10,000,000 for the Universal Life Church
https://ulc.org/
Or fund the Secular Humanists, the Pastafarians, the Global Pagans Warriors, or the Undead Of The Inquisition. How many cults do these deplorables really want to send their money to? |
Response to erronis (Reply #10)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:39 PM
moonshinegnomie (180 posts)
22. ive been touched by his noodly appendage
and let us say r'amen
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Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #22)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:52 PM
Maraya1969 (19,604 posts)
30. If it were my time and possible I'd love to send my kid to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti
Monster High.
What should their mascot be? GO NOODLES!!! Seriously though the kids would have parents who like to think outside the box and want their kids to be accepted and included. |
Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #22)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 05:05 PM
EarnestPutz (1,423 posts)
31. As a fellow Pastafarian, I'd like to welcome you to this crazy group liberal malcontents. We are..
....however, usually good for a few laughs.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:05 PM
Novara (2,860 posts)
3. I just have to wonder ...
... do the RWMC justices not even think of these possibilities? And if not, they're not qualified to be making these edicts.
I mean, the basis of the decision is shit enough. State fuds financing religious entities? That's a fucking no-brainer! But while they're making edicts to change society into the theocracy they want, do they ever think through the possibilities of these decisions? Or do they plan on eliminating all religion except for fake christianity now? |
Response to Novara (Reply #3)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:02 PM
Lonestarblue (5,830 posts)
16. You listed the goal of the religious right radicals on the SC.
Make all religion in the US illegal except for extremist white evangelical cults, and maybe leave the other Christian denominations like the Episcopalians alone. They’ve already ruled that there is no such thing as separation of church and state, so they will not let a little thing like a Constitutional mandate against establishing a state religion get in their way as they go about rewriting the Constitution by turning it into a right-wing Christian manifesto.
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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #16)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:09 PM
Novara (2,860 posts)
18. That's what I'm afraid of.
Response to Novara (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:23 AM
Girard442 (5,567 posts)
45. They will rule to get whatever they want.
They'll base it on the legal doctrine ipso facto rectum extracto.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:06 PM
pandr32 (9,046 posts)
4. Please make all this happen!
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:08 PM
DBoon (19,955 posts)
5. I'm waiting for Scientology to get in on this
They never miss an opportunity to scam money.
Imagine an L Ron Hubbard High School. |
Response to DBoon (Reply #5)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:24 PM
alphafemale (18,141 posts)
6. They might have an interesting mascot. nt
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:41 PM
HuskyOffset (724 posts)
7. I think you mean Satanic Temple, not Church of Satan
Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #7)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:25 PM
yonder (7,686 posts)
26. Interesting read at your link
Never heard of Pope Wonka but a cool name.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #36)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:14 AM
IronLionZion (39,065 posts)
48. I like that belief that blue cheese is for gays
considering how many straight men and women like it in salad dressings and chicken wings
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:48 PM
plimsoll (1,126 posts)
9. Let's see, originalists believe that we have to use the words they wrote.
To understand the Constitution.
Let's try this on for size. Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments. So James Madison was opposed to religious assessments (that's your tax dollars), so clearly giving your tax dollars to religious institutions must be what was meant by the establishment clause. I'm not sure they speak English. |
Response to plimsoll (Reply #9)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:30 PM
Probatim (1,074 posts)
21. Originalists have a cafeteria plan for the Founders' words.
Sort of like christians and their selecte bible quotes.
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Response to Probatim (Reply #21)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:22 PM
plimsoll (1,126 posts)
25. Right, we'll ignore those words because we don't like them.
It makes perfect sense.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:51 PM
IronLionZion (39,065 posts)
11. YES! The people paranoid about Sharia law and madrassahs
Last edited Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1) their heads can explode with hypocrisy. The satanic temple knows what to do.
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:54 PM
NJCher (29,894 posts)
12. how can we rub it in their faces
when it happens?
Just food for thought. Any good ideas, please comment. |
Response to NJCher (Reply #12)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:59 PM
IronLionZion (39,065 posts)
15. Point out that they voted for their tax dollars to go to religious institutions
and they should be more careful what they wish for because they might get it
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:50 PM
Raster (20,816 posts)
23. The Fighting Demons of Beelzebub High thank you for your support!!!
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:33 PM
keithbvadu2 (26,895 posts)
39. We have plenty of folks who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:56 PM
muriel_volestrangler (97,938 posts)
13. In practice, public funding for religious schools will only happen in white Christian areas
The ruling was that states can fund religious schools, not that they must. And you need a certain demand to set up a school and then get public funds sent to it. Areas with enough demand to make religious-but-not-Christian schools feasible are also highly likely to be Democratic areas, that don't feel like shitting on the separation of church and state in the constitution - unlike the Republicans who will gladly do so.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 02:59 PM
LeftInTX (19,452 posts)
14. Actually public money does go to Muslim schools
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClen_movement_schools
American charter schools founded and/or managed by Hizmet members Gulen followers have been active in founding approximately 120 charter schools in 25 states. Although there is no formal networking of all the schools, collectively they form one of the largest collections of charter schools in America."[24] There are many allegations about money-laundering, kickbacks, investigations, and raids concerning charter schools founded or operated by Gulen followers.[30][31] The FBI has investigated Concept Schools, which operate 16 Horizon Science Academies across Ohio, on the suspicion that they illegally used taxpayer money to pay immigration and legal fees for people they never even employed, an Ohio ABC affiliate discovered. The FBI's suspicion was confirmed by state auditors. Concept Schools repaid the fees for their Cleveland and Toledo schools shortly before the ABC story broke, but it's unclear whether they have repaid—or can repay—the fees for their other schools.[31] In December 2013, the FBI raided another Gülen-linked charter school, Kenilworth Science and Technology Charter School, located in Louisiana. The investigation, initially for tax-related purposes, led to the discovery of a business link between the school and Harmony Public Schools, another Gülen-linked charter school district based in Texas that makes up the state's largest charter operator.[32] Two schools, located in Texas, have been accused of sending school funds—which are supplied by the government—to Gülen-inspired organizations. Last year, The New York Times reported that the some schools were funneling some $50 million in public funds to a network of Turkish construction companies, among them the Gülen-related Atlas Texas Construction and Trading. The schools had hired Atlas to do construction, the paper said, though other bidders claimed in lawsuits that they had submitted more economical bids. Folwell Dunbar, an official at the Louisiana Department of Education, has accused Atlas's vice president, Inci Akpinar, of offering him a $25,000 bribe to keep mum about troubling conditions at the Abramson Science and Technology School in New Orleans. Dunbar sent a memo to department colleagues, the Times-Picayune reported, noting that "Akpinar flattered him with 'a number of compliments' before getting to the point: 'I have twenty-five thousand dollars to fix this problem: twenty thousand for you and five for me.' " Abramson is operated by the Pelican Foundation, which is linked to the Gülen-inspired Cosmos Foundation in Texas—which runs the two Texas schools.[31] |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:07 PM
jonstl08 (259 posts)
17. They will freak out
Years ago one state did this and then freaked out when a muslim school applied for tax dollars. The christians in the legislature stated that was not what they envisioned. Only Christian schools could apply. Court ruled against the christians and said all religions qualified. They were not happy campers.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:24 PM
Evolve Dammit (10,445 posts)
19. PS. Only Christian schools need apply?
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #19)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:05 AM
orleans (30,772 posts)
42. this! lol
Link to tweet We all need to get on the gravy train. I'm starting a Witch school. I’ll sign up! Hey, @ChurchofSatan ! |
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #19)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:19 AM
GoodRaisin (7,231 posts)
43. That's the idea!
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:28 PM
catbyte (29,036 posts)
20. ...
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:04 PM
calimary (69,269 posts)
24. Crank up the ad campaign!
I'm SERIOUS.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:27 PM
Oppaloopa (726 posts)
27. Scientology
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:38 PM
soldierant (4,028 posts)
28. I can see one condition upon which it might be constitutional for government funds to go to
a religious school -
and that would be if those funds were restricted to the use of teaching civics, and that the curriculum for this be all government- approved. Anything else, not so much. |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 04:40 PM
MomInTheCrowd (175 posts)
29. Madrasas?
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 06:04 PM
niyad (88,210 posts)
32. More likely it would be The Satanic Temple. It is already filing suits about
anti-abortion laws violating their religious freedom.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 06:07 PM
Torchlight (1,179 posts)
33. I'll ask my conservo-friend at the office if he thinks the Al-Madrasa-tul-Burhaniyah in Dallas
(a Muslim-oriented private school a few blocks from his house) should get the funding too if they request it. Since I'll be there, maybe I'll ask him why the madrasa he often mocks academically out-performs all other religious private schools in Dallas.
Sometimes, it's the little things. ![]() |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 07:03 PM
LakeArenal (22,458 posts)
34. When church's pay taxes, we could consider funding them.
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 07:17 PM
TomSlick (9,770 posts)
35. As the dissent pointed out, religious minorities will be too small to establish schools.
In the rural communities involved in the Maine case, there will be insufficient Muslims, Jews, etc. to establish a religious school to take advantage of the now forced state support of religious schools. Instead, Muslims, Jews, and other religious minorities will be required through their taxes to support religious institutions to which they do not belong or wish to support.
The separation of church and state is now a fiction. SCOTUS has ruled that if financial support is provided to any private schools, it must also be provided to secular schools. |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 07:39 PM
lpbk2713 (41,065 posts)
37. Oy vey.
I'll believe it when I see it. |
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:14 PM
Liberal In Texas (11,587 posts)
40. Brilliant. n/t
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:33 PM
Best_man23 (4,292 posts)
41. I think I'll ask for funding to start a music school
Yes, the Black Sabbath School of the Musical Arts. Need to make sure the backmasking course is required for all students.
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 05:20 AM
ck4829 (32,965 posts)
44. K&R
Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:39 AM
pazzyanne (5,632 posts)
46. Just one comment:
Time to tax churches!!!
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:20 AM
BobTheSubgenius (11,197 posts)