is HERSHEL WALKER MENTALLY ILL OR JUST DUMB.

[Trueblue1968]

Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 @RonFilipkowski

In an old interview, Herschel Walker explains why he didn’t think his Multiple Personality Disorder is a mental illness: “Do our Lord Jesus Christ have a mental illness because he said he’s the father, the son and the Holy Spirit? To me, those are 3 different personalities.”




this makes no sense. GOD DOES NOT HAVE MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES.

[In It to Win It]

1. Possibly both

[brush]

2. He's both. No question.

[iemanja]

6. What's his diagnosis?

And which psychiatrist diagnosed him?

[brush]

7. You figure it out. He's got multiple personalities, has admittedly played Russian roulet...

several times, also threaten to blow a woman's head off.

Claimed to be an honor student at UGA (not).

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, but you go ahead and question it.

[Celerity]

18. +1

[iemanja]

19. the DSM lists specific illnesses

I "can't figure it out" because I am not a psychiatrist who has met with him to make a diagnosis. What I am is a person who suffers from major depression and anxiety and resent the constant name calling of "mentally ill" because people don't like the behavior and views of a public personality--always Republican. I don't like the continual reinforcement of stigma toward the mentally ill and the hatred the name calling reveals.

[AZProgressive]

24. I agree

I have some serious disabilities but am not at all like a Republican.

[LiberalFighter]

62. He probably used a fake gun.

[Skittles]

3. I'm going with too many hits to the head

he speaks gibberish

[dawg]

9. If that's true, then it must have happened in high school.

He already sounded like that by the time he made it to UGA.

[hlthe2b]

25. Indeed he did. His gibberish was not so obvious because what sports reporter asks probing questions?

They rarely ask anything that word salad can't suffice.

All those giving him a pass based on CTE are clueless on this. He was never an intelligent man capable of really complex thoughts-- or at least lacking the verbal abilities to express them. IF CTE were a possible explanation, then he'd have to have gone to the most violent (and intensely irresponsible) high school in history, where head blows were the norm. There is no evidence of that.

[brush]

47. The blows would be an accumulation from HS, college and pro football

Not all from high school. IMO though his condition of multiple personalities, playing Russian roulette, threatening to blow a woman's head off, his claims of being an honor student...is not only from CTE.

[hlthe2b]

48. I'm saying (as have others) that he was like this upon entering UGA. So if he had head trauma

sufficient to explain his apparent lack of ability to relay a coherent thought, it occurred before then. In reality, there is NO EVIDENCE he has CTE, so your assertion is without basis, not to mention that absolute confirmation occurs at post-mortem exam. No repeated concussions have been documented by sports writers, nor Walker himself (and he apparently has included a great deal about his playing days in his memoir).

His ignorance, lack of verbal of acuity, and inability to string a coherent sentence along have been his pattern since his first day at UGA. It is merely more noticeable now, given he is actually expected to answer questions, rather than grunt platitudes about the next game.

[brush]

50. So you don't think the blows from college and pro ball contributed...

to his condition?

[hlthe2b]

52. well, they certainly haven't helped, but there is no record of him having a lot of concussions

so, you are making an assumption. Not all football players develop CTE. Not all experience the repeated head trauma that puts them at risk. Walker was FAST. That was his strength. He was a running back at UGA. In the pros, he was a halfback, fullback, tight end, H-back, wide receiver (short time) at various times during his career. The position that suffers the most head trauma and statistically is most at risk of developing CTE, per NFL studies, is the cornerback. wide receivers and linebackers. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/top-3-positions-lead-concussions-nfl

Most of the NFL players who developed and were confirmed at death, had WELL-DOCUMENTED history of repeated concussions primarily due to helmet-on-body hits, and helmet-to-helmet hits, so linebackers would quite obviously fill that bill. That wasn't Herschel. He was a fast offensive player, not excessively big, and definitely not a linebacker. But, had he had a knock rendering him unconscious, it would have been reported by sportswriters--even or especially in college as he was a star from the first game. They have not. Nor have they documented it during his pro career.

Sometimes it is just that a person isn't overly intelligent and/or appropriately educated, or never required to learn the skills that would allow them to put cogent thoughts into words. All three appear to explain Herschel Walker.

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53. It's obvious he's not an intelligent man. Hershel played at a time...

before there was much consciousness of CTE and tacklers and back too lead with their heads quite often during contact.

The term for years was, "he got his bell rung." And then they'd go back in the game after being given smelling salts. It's speculated now that some of those incidents were concussions.

It was quite common. And Walker was big for a back and fast but had little cutting ability to avoid hits so he had to be gang tackled to be bought down, which resulted in a lot of hits. Hard to say if CTE is present but his aggressive behavior is often a symptom of it (towards women in his life). We'll know if his brain is examined after he dies.

He was famously traded to the Vikings for seven players and draft picks in 1989 and the Cowboys parlayed that trade for Emmitt Smith and others and they soon won three Super Bowls in four years in the early to mid-90s. Walker was an ok pro back, but Smith, now that was a running back.

[hlthe2b]

54. Again, he was a super star. There is no validation that these events you claim occurred and sports

writers would have made a heyday if he had. NO EVIDENCE AT ALL. Most NFL players do not suffer CTE either but it is devastating for those who do. Walker was not playing a position where he was likely to suffer repeated traumatic head injuries throughout his career and the sports writers never wrote about a single incident per the AJC. Beyond that, you can believe what you wish, but there is NOT EVIDENCE. Walker is simply lacking in the intellect and verbal acuity needed to express himself. NO head trauma or undiagnosed TIAs (mini-strokes) or latent brain tumor, undiagnosed toxic exposure, congenital brain vascular abnormality (venous malformation), or any other explanation/excuse required. It boils down to Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation that will account for a circumstance or event is most likely the correct explanation.

[brush]

56. There no evidence the other way either. It's not worth arguing about...

anymore as he's a dumb man obviously unqualified to be in the Senate.

[Botany]

4. Both and he has CTE too

n/t

[hlthe2b]

28. There is no evidence he has CTE. He was like this when he entered UGA and I know of

no high school--even in the football-obsessed South, where such massive head blows are commonplace, ignored and a matter of course.

[Botany]

43. I don't know if he got CTE* in high school, college, or the pros ... but he sure seems to have ....

... some of the symptoms.

* I got my M.D. from years on the internet

[keithbvadu2]

58. The internet grants us accreditations even more efficiently than Trump University.

The internet grants us accreditations even more efficiently than Trump University.

[Botany]

60. If you were a running back in high school, big time college, and the pros for a # of years CTE ....

... is very possible.

[iemanja]

5. I wish people would stop calling those they disagree with mentally ill

It increases contempt toward the mentally ill and adds to the stigma associated with mental illness.

[RockRaven]

10. He's publicly acknowledged to have a properly diagnosed personality disorder...

It's not people calling him mentally ill merely because they disagree with him.

[iemanja]

12. Which disorder?

[RockRaven]

21. Feel free to read his Wikipedia page to find out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker

[hlthe2b]

32. In his own memoir he writes about his diagnosis of dissociative identity disorder (DID)

and the Atlanta Journal Constitution has written on his controversial therapist, as well as his mental health issues in general:

https://www.ajc.com/politics/a-controversial-therapist-and-domestic-violence-herschel-walkers-mental-health-battle-raises-questions/LWCO3MUCVRFRLMCJK46REA4HNU/

https://www.ajc.com/politics/opinion-herschel-walkers-book-revealed-stars-mental-health-struggle-and-success/KPBGCFCINNBCLKRWWG6NOCBHCQ/

No one has put these words in his mouth. The veracity of his own words might be in question, however, but...

[iemanja]

34. Then why the question?

What purpose does it serve if he already has an acknowledged diagnosis? The intent seems to be to mock. And would that same questioning happen if he had another illness, like epilepsy? What makes it acceptable toward the mentally ill?

[hlthe2b]

36. Probably because his lack of demonstrated verbal acuity & intellect has nothing to do with it.

Why do you wish to fight other DUers when we merely inform you on the issues. For those who have followed his career since UGA, none of this is new. I don't believe anyone here is deserving of your accusations.

He is a violent man, a liar, and a very unintelligent man. That is enough, but yes, he has had other issues as well that do call into question his mental stability-- anyone who brags about playing Russian Roulette and threatening spouse and girlfriends with guns must have their mental status at least questioned.

[Brenda]

38. + Many nt

[Celerity]

40. +2

[iemanja]

42. I've seen this a million times

toward people with no diagnoses. I've seen posts insisting all Republicans are mentally ill. Since I did not know his diagnosis, I read this as another in a long list of stigmatizing posts.

The poster, however, does not present it as information. They posed it as a question.

[A HERETIC I AM]

44. He's running for the Senate of the United States, for fucks sake.

He’s a moron and utterly unqualified for the job.

Why shouldn’t he be mocked?

I’m sorry, but morons should not be running for high government office.

[sop]

13. Herschel Walker wrote a book acknowledging and discussing his own mental illness.

He was diagnosed by Dr. Jerry Mungadze, Ph.D.

[Celerity]

16. +1

[iemanja]

27. Thank you for the information.

It seems odd that it would be posed as a question if he already has a diagnosis. What do you suppose the purpose of that would be? And would it take place is he had another illness? Of course not.

[Brenda]

39. Yes it would

People have been going nuts asking about Fetterman and his heart condition.

[Celerity]

15. Why are you denying he is mentally ill is the better question.

He was diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder.

He wrote a book about it.


Breaking Free: My Life with Dissociative Identity Disorder

https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Free-Dissociative-Identity-Disorder/dp/1416537503

[iemanja]

26. Then why the question whether he is mentally ill?

If he has a diagnosis, then he does suffer from a mental illness. What is the purpose of the guessing game if it already a fact?


I have seen "mental illness" hurled as a slur about countless Republicans, with no concern about how that effects DUers and other Americans who suffer from mental illness. Mental illness is not a pejorative. They are a collection of illnesses of the brain that don't deserve to be continually stigmatized. If he had epilepsy, would the same behavior take place? Of course not, but people think nothing of displaying their antipathy toward the mentally ill.

[Celerity]

30. I am not questioning it. You must have the wrong person.

Walker is a dangerous menace on multiple fronts, for multiple reasons. I was amongst the first here to point this out when he first started rambling in about possibly running for Senate.

[hlthe2b]

33. It isn't DUers making this up. Walker, himself has acknwowledge & written about it. See my posts

[Mozeltov Cocktail]

8. Herschel Walker frequently compares himself to Jesus...

I'm sure this is just a further extension of his god complex...

[Amishman]

11. Yes.

[vlyons]

14. Jesus never said that

he was the father, son, and Holy Spirit. The dogma of the Trinity was created in 325 AD at the 1st Council of Nicea.

Walker is BOTH stupid and delusional. His IQ is probably about 70-75.

[11 Bravo]

17. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I believe Herschel hit the Daily Double.

[634-5789]

20. Both! The lad ain't right.

[roamer65]

22. Both.

Probably CTE as well.

[onecaliberal]

23. He has brain damage. It's sad that people who love him are allowing him to be used and mocked.

He's sick.

[Jamesm9164]

29. Everyone is missing the critical point

Walker is being used by R's as a bright and shining object. Walker's mental state is not the question. The question is how can so many folks fall for this. I do not question him, and actually am quite sympathetic. I question those who use this for whatever the goal. Just saying.

[Iggo]

31. Dumb.

[Brother Buzz]

35. He's both, but the jury is still out on his chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) symptoms

Symptoms
There are no specific symptoms that have been clearly linked to CTE. Some of the possible signs and symptoms of CTE can occur in many other conditions. In the few people with proved CTE, signs and symptoms have included cognitive, behavioral, mood and motor changes.

Cognitive impairment
Difficulty thinking (cognitive impairment)
Memory loss
Problems with planning, organization and carrying out tasks (executive function)

Behavioral changes
Impulsive behavior
Aggression

Mood disorders
Depression or apathy
Emotional instability
Substance misuse
Suicidal thoughts or behavior

Motor symptoms
Parkinsonism
Motor neuron disease

[VGNonly]

37. In the right wing world,

being a dull knife isn't a problem, it's a badge of honor.

[zuul]

41. Herschel Walker said in an interview that there are 52 states.

Link to tweet

[Trueblue1968]

51. i think that shows his TOTAL STUPIDITY. My cat ANNIE knows there are 50 states for crying out loud.

[Polybius]

68. I remember the shit storm the media put on when Obama said that there were 57

And his was clearly a slip of the tongue.

&ab_channel=AmericanPolitics

[Polybius]

67. Obama once said he's been to 57, of course that was a slip of the tongue

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idWAO1209788800644

[Talitha]

45. You mean he's not a stable genius?

[keithbvadu2]

61. Considering the reference, that stable genius call is still undetermined.

Considering the reference, that stable genius call is still undetermined.

[OLDMDDEM]

46. Yes!

[Torchlight]

49. He is an odd duck.

But I have no idea if it's illness or mental laziness.

After some of the things Walker's said though... well, as grandad said, "that boy's cheese gone and done slid off his cracker"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

55. Multiple Personality Disorder is a mental illness

Link to tweet

[madinmaryland]

57. They should have chosen Lee M. Mercer, Jr. as their candidate...

Eye-spy, national and international. All three!

[RANDYWILDMAN]

59. He is a Liar, period

because a faux celebrity is way out of touch with most people.

how is tommy tuberville working out Bama ??? thought so

[AngryOldDem]

63. Short answer -- yes.

[DFW]

64. Walker is clearly not playing with a full deck.

Unfortunately, that is perfect for a party that plays a game of matching cards with four cards and still loses every time.

[ZonkerHarris]

65. why not both?

[jcgoldie]

66. out of all the dumb shit Herschel Walker says...

Fucking up ridiculous Christian theology is the least of his problems.

[Hekate]

69. Inasmuch as there are multiple gods, they are multiple personalities. Herschel, however, is confused

Very confused, and probably suffering from football related brain damage.

I see him as a very sad figure who is being used by the GOP.