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She was given a ticket for indecent exposure. This is what she is wearing. Louisiana btw. Smfh... (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2022 OP
Police department statement here 😂 demmiblue Jun 2022 #1
i don't see how her outfit violates the rules Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #10
I don't see why the have "rules" in such detail. Bev54 Jun 2022 #28
At least we don't have Sharia law in this country. Probatim Jun 2022 #35
Sounds like they are trying hard for an equivalent. Bev54 Jun 2022 #37
Have been for years and years. Probatim Jun 2022 #38
Wonder if they have a stock of Burkas Bettie Jun 2022 #76
If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. Probatim Jun 2022 #77
To criminalize young Black males, duh. sir pball Jun 2022 #75
Cleft of buttocks?!?!?! 🤣🤣🤣 NickB79 Jun 2022 #21
I have seen parts of bodies bursting out at Trump rallies that cannot be unseen. #scarred4lyfe Celerity Jun 2022 #69
Wow. Doubling down. Lucky Luciano Jun 2022 #30
"which is the proper venue to dispute any allegation" Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2022 #72
They want all women to wear long light blue dresses & bonnets. JanMichael Jun 2022 #2
Maybe they were jealous that she could pull that look off BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #7
Agree. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #15
Me thinks the female cops wanted to screw with her. rsdsharp Jun 2022 #3
Wasn't there a court ruling where the police did not have to interpret or understand the law? TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #66
I see women dressed like that around here all.the time. Haggard Celine Jun 2022 #4
I wouldn't look twice at the outfit, I find it tame compared to some I see. Bev54 Jun 2022 #26
Yeah, I suspect there are some Haggard Celine Jun 2022 #32
Yes it does, and I am doubtful the police were getting complaints about it either. Bev54 Jun 2022 #33
It is the rips in the jeans that caused her the problems as it does violate the law as written ripcord Jun 2022 #5
I was trying to figure out what the specific issue was and now that you point that out... PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #9
She's wearing shorts. Chellee Jun 2022 #24
Her underwear would not likely show where the rips are at all, unless she was wearing boxer type. Bev54 Jun 2022 #31
The pockets might be showing, but not underwear...just saying. cayugafalls Jun 2022 #44
Her underwear aren't showing. There is no indecency. MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #59
So, the statute in that town state no ripped attire? MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #60
The law says no clothing that purposely shows undwear ripcord Jun 2022 #63
Okay, but her underwear weren't visible. MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #65
Her crime: dalton99a Jun 2022 #6
Otherwise known as: DFW Jun 2022 #12
Seems they definitely have sticks up their asses. Bev54 Jun 2022 #27
Railroad ties! n/t DFW Jun 2022 #40
OMG. Demobrat Jun 2022 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #55
I don't care for her appearance but it is not indecent exposure. LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #8
Wait a minute. We can't hold police accountable for shooting an halfulglas Jun 2022 #25
Wow shes fucking beautiful vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #11
Christ almighty. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #13
Not particularly tasteful, in my old guy opinion, but hardly indecent. TomSlick Jun 2022 #14
I hope those cops never visit a beach or park in Southern California. LoisB Jun 2022 #16
Right? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #19
Kudos to your state. LoisB Jun 2022 #54
The Crime is the police giving her Cha Jun 2022 #17
I don't see her butt crack or genitals or pubic hair or undergarments Solly Mack Jun 2022 #18
If they said they could see her underwear she should call bs and tell them she wasn't wearing any. Bev54 Jun 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #57
I think it's front pockets showing questionseverything Jun 2022 #62
It really doesn't matter, they cannot see underwear through the tears in her shorts Bev54 Jun 2022 #67
Lewd pockets? More like pocket envy, I suppose questionseverything Jun 2022 #68
She should wear the same outfit to court yonder Jun 2022 #20
She was just out of uniform. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2022 #22
Ahem, ahem. world wide wally Jun 2022 #23
Last time I went to Mardi Gras in New Orleans.... SunSeeker Jun 2022 #47
Repubs just need to save us all some time. rubbersole Jun 2022 #29
How is this not Sharia law? The Jungle 1 Jun 2022 #34
I guessing "Louisiana" has nothing to do with it...think about Mardi Gras... brooklynite Jun 2022 #39
Completely disingenuous citation. littlemissmartypants Jun 2022 #41
note: all of Louisiana's assholes are showing, so howzabout some goddam equal protection?🤨 bringthePaine Jun 2022 #42
Hope she wins and sues their asses Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #43
JFC This has gotten past rediculous. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #45
The Police Department is going to regret that idiotic citation. SunSeeker Jun 2022 #48
She's too old. VGNonly Jun 2022 #49
in louisiana "indecent exposure" is a sex crime rampartc Jun 2022 #50
This is not a criminal citation. It's a $25 fine. LeftInTX Jun 2022 #61
It must have been an awfully slow day for these police officers. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #51
Winnfield Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #52
Laws like this are about punishing women for being sexual beings. ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #53
Guilty of questionable Disaffected Jun 2022 #56
I can't help but think there's a jealous female somewhere. Phoenix61 Jun 2022 #58
Jealous that 'their man' was looking at another more like. TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #80
It may have been about money . There are some people that just pay these tickets JI7 Jun 2022 #64
I think the cops were jealous. Emile Jun 2022 #70
This was my first thought, too n/t 867-5309. Jun 2022 #73
She was cited because she looked great alphafemale Jun 2022 #71
A Citation? She should get an award instead. Ligyron Jun 2022 #74
There's nothing wrong with her outfit given the setting and especially the highplainsdem Jun 2022 #78
I'M OFFENDED by the POLICE. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2022 #79
A recent post to the Winnfield Police Dept's facebook page: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2022 #81

Probatim

(2,501 posts)
35. At least we don't have Sharia law in this country.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jun 2022

Thanks be to gawd for that.

(Yes, this is sarcasm.)

Probatim

(2,501 posts)
38. Have been for years and years.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jun 2022

And getting closer every day.

The USSC said Maine has to use taxpayer dollars for religious schools. The wall separating church and state is getting hacked at.

sir pball

(4,737 posts)
75. To criminalize young Black males, duh.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jun 2022

I mean, it's as obvious to me as the nose on my face…"wear[ing] pants, trousers…which…intentionally exposes undergarments". She's just bycatch, a dolphin in their tuna net.

Of course, with the "cleft of the buttocks" criteria, Joe The Plumber is just as illegal as their targets, but I somehow doubt they'd prosecute that one.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
21. Cleft of buttocks?!?!?! 🤣🤣🤣
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jun 2022

How many fat Bubba's got cited for their plumber cracks that day? Because I guarantee you, there were plenty in a place like Winfield, Louisiana.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
72. "which is the proper venue to dispute any allegation"
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:55 AM
Jun 2022

Fuck those cops. The venue is proper if the victim of your Talibornagain bullshit says it’s the proper venue.

Maybe the pigs and the city council can fine her for improper venue. You know they want to.

JanMichael

(24,873 posts)
2. They want all women to wear long light blue dresses & bonnets.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe the cops were mad because they were burning up in 100°
temps and she wasn't, so this is just purely a fuck you move?

Or were they all a bunch of blond blue eyed nazi cops and the "perp" has brown eyes?

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
7. Maybe they were jealous that she could pull that look off
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:39 PM
Jun 2022

and they couldn't. Let's see wnat they look like. Maybe this is body shaming by the female police officers.

rsdsharp

(9,137 posts)
3. Me thinks the female cops wanted to screw with her.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jun 2022

They want her to give up and pay the ticket, or take time off work to go to court. They will not show, and the ticket will be dismissed, but she will be inconvenienced.

My suggestion is to fight the ticket, but subpoena the “officer” who wrote it. Force her to be inconvenienced, and explain to the judge why she wrote an indecent exposure ticket to a woman wearing five times the amount of clothes of a typical female bathing suit.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
66. Wasn't there a court ruling where the police did not have to interpret or understand the law?
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:49 AM
Jun 2022

.

Understanding of what cleft of buttocks, pubic hairs and genitals are appear to not be in their pay grade.


And just because a bunch of people complain does not mean those in the crowd are correct.

.

Haggard Celine

(16,834 posts)
4. I see women dressed like that around here all.the time.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jun 2022

Of course, we have beaches here, but she wasn't in a bikini, just regular clothes. Indecent exposure is such a bullshit charge. I can understand not wanting people to be having sex in public, but we shouldn't be concerned with what people wear. It's just not that important.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
26. I wouldn't look twice at the outfit, I find it tame compared to some I see.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jun 2022

They should come to some of the summer concerts I do security at, I was blown away at the "outfits" or lack of them.

Haggard Celine

(16,834 posts)
32. Yeah, I suspect there are some
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

stodgy, backward people in that town. There’s nothing unusual about what she was wearing. That’s normal attire for a woman in the South during the summer. This looks personal to me.

ripcord

(5,268 posts)
5. It is the rips in the jeans that caused her the problems as it does violate the law as written
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:36 PM
Jun 2022

I have never understood buying pre-ripped jeans.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. I was trying to figure out what the specific issue was and now that you point that out...
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jun 2022

it does appear her underwear shows through the ripped portion of her pants.

"or skorts" - I learned a new word - skorts.




Chellee

(2,091 posts)
24. She's wearing shorts.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:14 PM
Jun 2022

A skort is a skirt that has a pair of shorts sewn inside it. So it looks like a skirt, but it gives you the coverage of a pair of shorts.

MerryBlooms

(11,757 posts)
65. Okay, but her underwear weren't visible.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:45 AM
Jun 2022

I think it was abuse of power on the police part, and the gal cited will win. I have a pair of jeans I use for yard work, one pocket is starting to tear, under their ordenece, I could also be fined if the t-shirt I was wearing was not long enough that particular day. I hope they fined every guy with his butt crack hanging out, or his Harry gut hanging out. I find that in bad taste, but I doubt guys get fined for that fashion choice.

DFW

(54,291 posts)
12. Otherwise known as:
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:47 PM
Jun 2022

“Walking upright while being female.”

Do cops in Louisiana take special courses on how to be obnoxious? When the next mass school shooting happens in Louisiana, the cops will arrive in the scene, armed to the teeth, and the first question they will ask is, “how many shooters are there, and are they modestly dressed?”

Demobrat

(8,960 posts)
46. OMG.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jun 2022

THAT is supposedly indecent? Those shorts with a bikini top wouldn’t get a second glance in CA.

Good grief.

Response to Demobrat (Reply #46)

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
8. I don't care for her appearance but it is not indecent exposure.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jun 2022

Again. Police need to be held accountable.

1) If someone is ticketed and the ticket is an abuse of power there need to be penalties against the police department. In this case, the police department would be required to pay all costs of the person ticketed. Attorney fees, lost wages, etc.

2) A public database showing the disciplinary actions taken against officers. Punitive actions against police officers violating the rights of citizens. Each step would result in more serious action.

3) To ensure judges don't abuse this and keep officers out of harm they would also be subject to action if found guilty of abuse themselves.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
25. Wait a minute. We can't hold police accountable for shooting an
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:17 PM
Jun 2022

innocent woman paramedic in her own home in the middle of the night awoken by a no knock raid and you want to hold an officer accountable for writing a ticket for indecent exposure? You can't have young things showing their bodies and tempting men who can't control themselves. This young woman has to be held accountable for the bad things any passing man might have no matter how hot the weather is.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
11. Wow shes fucking beautiful
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:47 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe the female cops were a bit envious? Still I wear short shorts like this too and well it's nice when its 100+ fucking degrees. Fuck the police

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
13. Christ almighty.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:50 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:22 AM - Edit history (1)

She looks great and is dressed for the weather.

I'll tell you what...she said woman cops? Probably just asserting their "authority" because she looks attractive in those clothes.

She's covered up, and she has the figure to dress like that without calling undue attention to herself. And even if she didn't have the figure for it...so what? She's covered up.

Such bullshit. Every day, the bullshit gets deeper.

Do they allow bathing suits on a public beach?

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
14. Not particularly tasteful, in my old guy opinion, but hardly indecent.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jun 2022

I also don't see a violation of the bizarre local ordinance.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
19. Right?
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:07 PM
Jun 2022

In my state, women can walk around completely topless if they desire to.

I've never personally seen a woman walking around topless, but it is not illegal.

I suppose if a particular business wanted to ban that on their premises, they could. But if a woman wants to walk down a public street topless, she legally can.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
17. The Crime is the police giving her
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jun 2022

a ticket for "indecent exposure".. she's exposed decently enough.

💙💛

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
18. I don't see her butt crack or genitals or pubic hair or undergarments
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:05 PM
Jun 2022

and if people don't know the difference between a jean pocket and underwear then might I suggest they go to the store, grab a pair of jeans or jean shorts, head into the dressing room, drop trousers, and examine both the pockets of the jeans and their own undies. Keep looking until you can tell the difference between a jean pocket and your underwear. Don't come out of the dressing room until you do understand the difference.

And, btw, public parks with lakes and bayous as well as public pools are public places where people wear a lot less and butt crack is on display.

Are women expected to wear a burkini there?

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
36. If they said they could see her underwear she should call bs and tell them she wasn't wearing any.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jun 2022

Response to Bev54 (Reply #36)

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
67. It really doesn't matter, they cannot see underwear through the tears in her shorts
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:59 AM
Jun 2022

it is all bs. Most women do not wear underwear that would be seen wear the tears are. So what exactly are they citing her for?

yonder

(9,657 posts)
20. She should wear the same outfit to court
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:08 PM
Jun 2022

with a swim suit bikini bottom and have the prosecution try to prove the difference.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
47. Last time I went to Mardi Gras in New Orleans....
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:11 PM
Jun 2022

I saw a guy in the French Quarter walking down the street wearing nothing but pantyhose, into which he had slipped 2 tennis balls to cover his front bits.

rubbersole

(6,660 posts)
29. Repubs just need to save us all some time.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Just get to the burqa mandates. This lady wasn't indecent.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
39. I guessing "Louisiana" has nothing to do with it...think about Mardi Gras...
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jun 2022

Likely some small-town morals.

littlemissmartypants

(22,572 posts)
41. Completely disingenuous citation.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:42 PM
Jun 2022

It's clearly a citation aimed specifically at women meant to control and subjugate. Although it states, "any person" please share with me the instances that it would apply to anyone other than a female person. I'll wait.

She is righteously concerned and I hope she wins her battle. Because it's not just a battle against the power play by the cops.

It's a perfect opportunity to point out that women aren't here to be second class citizens under the control of an oppressive patriarchal society. No man will ever be in violation of this ordinance as it's written. When have you ever seen a man in a skort?

By raising the alarm she's educating the public and leading by example. Too many other women and girls in general, need to be made aware of their own oppressive situations and this is a perfect opportunity to do just that.

Just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is evil and those cops saw exactly what they were looking for.

As a side note, mad respect for her being there with her ex-husband and current husband and having them both back her up. Not that she needed it.

Interesting post. Thanks for sharing this, demmiblue. ❤

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
48. The Police Department is going to regret that idiotic citation.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:17 PM
Jun 2022

She was not showing genitals. That was crazy. Those small town cops were drunk with power. They should have just let her go home and change if they were really getting "complaints." That would have solved the problem. But no, they had to be assholes.

Sounds like she is going to sue. Hope she gets some good money.

rampartc

(5,385 posts)
50. in louisiana "indecent exposure" is a sex crime
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jun 2022

gets her on the sex offender program, can't live near a school, might lose her children if she has any, must send out the postcards whenever she moves. and more.

good luck beating that up in winnsboro. and, this is small town louisiana. she will get off IF her father can call the judge and fix it, ptherwise if she fights too hard her life will be miserable.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
61. This is not a criminal citation. It's a $25 fine.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:18 AM
Jun 2022

This is basically like "code compliance", "loud music" or "parking illegally" which is strictly municipal.

I don't agree with it, but she's not gonna be a sex offender

She is not being charged under Louisiana's law, which is a felony.

The town also outlaws sagging pants with the same penalty.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
52. Winnfield
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:37 PM
Jun 2022

It’s next door to a for-profit prison. It’s just what you’d expect from their corporate citizens, so why not also the politicians who hire them?

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
58. I can't help but think there's a jealous female somewhere.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jun 2022

She said she was sitting with her ex-husband, her husband, and her two kids. Living in a small southern town myself I can just see her ex’s girlfriend getting her knickers in a twist and running to the cops. Talking trash about how she’s a mother and shouldn’t be dressed like that in front of her children…blah…blah…blah. I hope she sues the shit out of them.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
64. It may have been about money . There are some people that just pay these tickets
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:34 AM
Jun 2022

or citations or whatever they are instead of fighting it and it probably brings in some needed money for the city .

Or maybe she had something which identified her politics in some way .

It is disappointing when it's other women that push this type of bs onto other women.

I would like to see if others have received the same thing and what they were wearing. Maybe they might come foward after seeing her do it .

I would also like to see what the police that gave this have to say .

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
78. There's nothing wrong with her outfit given the setting and especially the
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jun 2022

weather. I agree with the people who suspect the female cops were jealous.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
79. I'M OFFENDED by the POLICE.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

Maybe this is a case of small town cops where crimes reported by relatives of the chief LEO are pursued before crimes that actually matter. Maybe it's just that law enforcement pursues crimes where they feel less likely to get hurt or killed similar to how they appear to act in a state next door. My search indicates that Winnfield has 17 officers in the department. I infer that they don't work 7 days a week so maybe about 6 or 7 officers were on duty at that time. In view of the following data, it's good to know that Winnfield is taking seriously the danger to the community posed by shorts and t-shirts.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/la/winnfield/crime#description
With a crime rate of 42 per one thousand residents, Winnfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 24. Within Louisiana, more than 82% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Winnfield.

Separately, it is always interesting and important to compare a city's crime rate with those of similarly sized communities - a fair comparison as larger cities tend to have more crime. NeighborhoodScout has done just that. With a population of 4,153, Winnfield has a combined rate of violent and property crime that is very high compared to other places of similar population size. Regardless of whether Winnfield does well or poorly compared to all other cities and towns in the US of all sizes, compared to places with a similar population, it fares badly. Few other communities of this size have a crime rate as high as Winnfield.

Now let us turn to take a look at how Winnfield does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in Winnfield.

For Winnfield, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout's analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in Winnfield is one in 94.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
81. A recent post to the Winnfield Police Dept's facebook page:
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022
I’d like to report someone in my neighborhood wearing a crop top. I feel threatened.
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