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Here we go again. I don't think today will be D-Day. I think that will get saved for next week, or even July.
Expect over 20,000 listeners online as the account delivers the news.
The second illustration is not what it looks like outside the Supreme Court this morning. It's cool and raining.
Announcement of opinions for Thursday, June 23
By Angie Gou
on Jun 23, 2022 at 12:00 am
On Thursday, June 23, we will be live blogging as the court releases opinions in one or more argued cases from the current term.
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Recommended Citation: Angie Gou, Announcement of opinions for Thursday, June 23, SCOTUSblog (Jun. 23, 2022, 12:00 AM), https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/announcement-of-opinions-for-thursday-june-23/
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Novara
(5,841 posts)They don't have announcements on the schedule next week, so unless they add additional dates for announcements next week, it's today or tomorrow.
I think they're assholes enough to announce the most awful decisions today, before the hearing, to try to take the thunder from the hearing. Because today's hearing will be huge.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)The blog is now up and running. This comment showed up:
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mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)@katieleebarlow
's live dispatch on
@SCOTUSblog
TikTok.
Ive got my chair + umbrella ready to live stream the announcement on @SCOTUSblog TikTok. Ill also be on with @fox5dc morning crew at 9.
Link to tweet
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)Hat tip, Amy Howe and Ellena Erskine
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-248_4fc5.pdf
It is by Justice Gorsuch, and the vote is 8-1, with Sotomayor dissenting.
The question in this case was whether a pair of Republican legislators in North Carolina can intervene to defend the states voter-ID law when the states Democratic attorney general is already defending the law.
The answer is yes.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)Here's the link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-439_bp7c.pdf
It is by Justice Kagan, and it is 5-4.
Barrett dissents, joined by Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)suit that requests another method that is "less cruel" even if it's not authorized by state law.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)Here's the link, Vega v. Tekoh: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-499_gfbh.pdf
It is by Justice Alito, and the vote is 6-3.
Kagan dissents, joined by Breyer and Sotomayor.
Can two opinions by the same justice be issued in one day?
I get the seniority think but can two opinions written by the same justice be released on the same day?
That is only Alito's 4th opinion of the term. Safe to say he has at least 2 more to release, including Dobbs if he kept it and there was no switch.
Justices can issue more than one opinion per day. But I believe that if Alito were to issue Dobbs today, it would come first because it has the lower case number. Vega is No. 21-499. Dobbs is No. 19-1392.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)It is by Justice Thomas, and it is 6-3.
Breyer dissents, joined by Sotomayor and Kagan.
Here's the link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
The court holds that New York's "proper-cause" requirement to obtain a concealed-carry license violates the Constitution by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms in public for self-defense.
Thomas says in the intro that the court is holding "that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.
The New York "proper cause" requirement violates the Constitution, Thomas explains, because it only allows public-carry licenses when an applicant shows a special need for self-defense.
135 page opinion
The New York "proper cause" requirement violates the Constitution, Thomas explains, because it only allows public-carry licenses when an applicant shows a special need for self-defense.
The court rejects the "two-part" approach used by the courts of appeals in Second Amendment cases. "In keeping with Heller," Thomas writes, "we hold that when the Second Amendment's plain text covers an individual's conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct."
Justice Breyer refers to Uvalde and Buffalo. But Justice Alito has a retort regarding Buffalo.
The government will have to show, Thomas says, that a gun regulation "is consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation."
In this case, Thomas explains, nothing in the Second Amendment distinguishes between home and public "with respect to the right to keep and bear arms."
Page 2 of Alito's concurrence is notable and troubling. He dismisses Breyer's recounting of mass shootings. "Why, for example, does the dissent think it is relevant to recount the mass shootings that have occurred in recent years? ... The New York law at issue in this case obviously did not stop that [Buffalo] perpetrator."
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,047 posts)Basically concealed carry at will throughout the country is now a right.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)I suspect it's closer to "shall issue unless" but they could still require an application and review. The state just can't default to the permit not being issued unless they agree that you have a good reason.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Makes me feel like she gets some sort of embargoed pre-release (like other journalists get on some economic news). But I don't think the court does that.
I definitely couldn't do her job.
Amishman
(5,555 posts)That was not established before, and places a burden on the government to make all gun laws as narrowly worded and impactful as possible. Sets the table for demolishing a lot of existing restrictions
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)A DC circuit case (Wrenn) essentially ruled that way six or seven years ago and DC didn't appeal to SCOTUS specifically because they knew that they would lose (which would set precedent nationwide).
We've known this was coming for quite some time. NY fought a delaying action a couple of years ago by mooting a case to avoid a national precedent... but it was just a matter of time.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)It becomes a shall issue, rather than a may issue state.
California is a may issue state as well.
NY and CA need to tell the court to shove this one up their asses.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)You appear to be under the impression that NY/CA have a choice in the matter.
They really don't.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They can repass the laws and keep the cycle going.
Or simply ignore the ruling like red states have with Roe v Wade.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Sorry.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I fully support them on it.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Don't worry. I won't hold my breath.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)These states have a LOT of high powered attorneys who will slice and dice that ruling.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)So they can run to their bunkers and not have to deal with the fallout.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,408 posts)Amy Howe:
Ellena Erskine: