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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:29 AM

I believe Garland/DOJ are going to throw the Book at the fake electors.

When you have the forged documents with peoples signatures on them, that is not a hard case to prove in a court of law.

When you have an evidence trail a blind man can follow, documents, e-mails, texts, phone call, showing people conspired in the fake electors scheme , that is not a hard case to prove.

When you have people appearing on TV admitting they were part of the fake electors scheme, that is not hard to prove.

A message must be sent, this type of arrogant, blatant, criminal behavior will not stand. You will pay a heavy price.

I don't know how many laws the fake electors broke. Garland will charge will charge them with whatever he can. I have no doubt.

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Reply I believe Garland/DOJ are going to throw the Book at the fake electors. (Original post)
fightforfreedom Jun 23 OP
Novara Jun 23 #1
sir pball Jun 23 #8
Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #17
Novara Jun 23 #19
Emile Jun 23 #2
kacekwl Jun 23 #3
Mr. Ected Jun 23 #4
FloridaBlues Jun 23 #5
leftieNanner Jun 23 #6
harumph Jun 23 #7
Baitball Blogger Jun 23 #9
elias7 Jun 23 #10
fightforfreedom Jun 23 #11
gab13by13 Jun 23 #12
fightforfreedom Jun 23 #15
Novara Jun 23 #20
kentuck Jun 23 #13
gab13by13 Jun 23 #14
fightforfreedom Jun 23 #16
Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #18

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:31 AM

1. Pet peeve: the word "fake" used in so serious a crime

It sounds juvenile. I call them elector impostors.

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Response to Novara (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:06 AM

8. "Forged" nt

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Response to sir pball (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 10:57 AM

17. Forged isn't quite accurate either

Forged implies that the signature of John Smith was done by someone other than John Smith.

They committed fraud, and IMO should be known as Fraudulent Electors

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Response to sir pball (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:31 PM

19. Or "illegal."

Or "impostors."

All of that sounds better than "fake."

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:36 AM

2. My god, I hope so. They knew what they

were doing was illegal. In Michigan they had planned to even hide out the night before.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:37 AM

3. I would hope so.

We'll see I guess.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:45 AM

4. They got away with bloody murder for years under the subterfuge of "politics"

They knew what they were doing was illegal, but like the rest of them thought that it could all be explained away as waging war against the liberals.

This is what happens when you live in a bubble and call the real world "fake". Eventually it catches up to you.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:52 AM

5. I think of all the people going down this will see the most charges

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:58 AM

6. It has been encouraging to see

Seizures, Raids, and Subpoenas flying from the DOJ towards these people.

I think this is one of the more important things to pursue in all of this.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:04 AM

7. I've always been partial to the word "counterfeit."

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:26 AM

9. Charge them with fraud and sedition?

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:26 AM

10. They're getting all the hit men but none of the bosses

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Response to elias7 (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:28 AM

11. You start from the bottom and move up.

Everybody knows this.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:47 AM

12. Fani Willis doesn't know this.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 10:11 AM

15. Yes she does.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:32 PM

20. Fani Willis ONLY has the top

There is no bottom to start with - this particular crime came directly from the top. I think that's why it is considered so prosecutable. There aren't any underlings to blame.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:50 AM

13. I think that is the crime they have chosen to investigate...

...and Ron Johnson and other Republicans know it too.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:54 AM

14. From former Fox News anchor,

On CNN Thursday, during a discussion of the Department of Justice's new probes of GOP officials involved in the fake electors plot, anchor Chris Wallace demanded to know why it has taken so long for these investigations to move ahead.

DOJ knew a year and a half ago when the fake elector documents were sent to the National Archives. The National Archives had to issue a criminal referral to DOJ.

5 months ago the SOS of Michigan issued a criminal referral to DOJ requesting it investigate the fake electors. She then added, if DOJ does not investigate I will investigate the fake electors in Michigan.

If DOJ always gets its ducks in a row before it indicts anyone, why is it not proceeding with the Proud Boy criminal trial? Why has it asked for an extension?

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 10:22 AM

16. I just guessing, because they have been very busy.

Investigating, indicting, hundreds upon hundreds of people across the entire country. Going through mountains of evidence that requires a massive amount of time, people , resources. In reality, garland has not been moving too slowly.

Look at the committee, they have been working their asses off for at least a year and the evidence is still pouring in. So much so they are delaying their hearings. Are they moving too slowly? No.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:04 AM

18. They asked for an extension because of discovery and deconflicting issues with the committee

The first hearing revealed that the committee had obtained testimony from a militia member who was also cooperating with DOJ.
DOJ was unaware of this fact. It created a dilemma that could have resulted in the dismissal of the seditious conspiracy charges against the PB/OKs the militia member was testifying against.

Instead, the DOJ asked for an extension while they obtained materials from the committee, which has finally agreed to provide the requested evidence.

The judge grudgingly agreed to the extension.

It was apparently a very close call.

But, you keep worrying about how slowly the DOJ is moving, as I know that is more important to you than the DOJ actually getting convictions.

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