DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS EVER.

[kpete]

Miranda Weakened

If a police officer fails to give a suspect his Miranda warnings, and the gov't uses the suspect's un-Mirandized statements against him in court, can the suspect sue the officer for violating his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination? In a 6-3 ruling, SCOTUS says no.

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This is as good a time as any to remind each and everyone of you to NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE EVER. You literally have nothing to gain and everything to lose. It’s right there in the fucking Miranda warning- “Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.”

It doesn’t say “Anything you say can be used to prove your innocence.”

It doesn’t say “Innocent people never go to jail when they talk to cops”

It doesn’t say “You can prove to these guys you are innocent if you just keep talking and telling the truth.”

DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS EVER.

https://balloon-juice.com/miranda-weakened/

[2naSalit]

1. K&R

[vanlassie]

2. Don't I have to tell them my name or something?

[LuckyCharms]

7. If you get pulled over, I believe that generally, you are

required to provide your license, registration and insurance, but I may be wrong. After you provide this, don't say a word.

If they hassle you up on the street, and you have not committed a crime, don't say a word. Not one word. Let them arrest you and don't resist.

Edit: Even if you have committed a crime, just say you have nothing to say, and that you want a lawyer present. Nothing further. No sudden moves, no resisting.

[AllaN01Bear]

3. this from balloon juice / miranda-weekend

Edmund Dantes

June 23, 2022 at 10:46 am

You actually do have to talk.

“am I free to go?”

and “I want a lawyer present”.

otherwise silence can and has been used against people in scotus cases.

“he never asked for a lawyer”

”he never asked to leave”
aslo, what charges.

[LuckyCharms]

4. Agree 100%. Not only don't talk to them, but hope like hell that

they don't pull you out of your vehicle and beat the living shit out of you because you refuse to speak.

It's a Catch-22 for a a lot of people, depending on your skin tone.

But even as a white guy, I wouldn't talk to them.

I don't buy the "not all cops are bad" thing anymore. too many examples of abuse. I've only seen one example where another cop (a woman) pulled a huge cop off a suspect for beating him up.

The "good cops" need to take a stand and stop this bullshit, or else they are not good cops.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Tomorrow is Shut The Fuck Up Friday, as it is every Friday.

Lol at the age restriction. It's a one-minute video showing you how to shut the fuck up when cops try to talk to you.

[Voltaire2]

6. Correct.

[MichMan]

8. Crimes shouldn't be reported by victims?

and witnesses should refuse to cooperate?

[gratuitous]

12. Some people might feel that way very strongly

We have a lot of trouble in my city of getting witnesses to cooperate when there's a gang-related shooting. Certainly witnesses are reluctant to cross gang members, who do a much better job of responding to events in their area than the cops do. But also, considering the neighborhoods where those shootings occur, the trust between residents and cops is badly broken, and residents don't want to take a chance talking to the cops.

The check on this ruling may come, oddly enough, from law enforcement and district attorneys who are frustrated in their attempts to solve crimes because nobody will talk to them.

[A HERETIC I AM]

9. Don't talk to cops except to ask these two questions and make one statement;

1) Am I being detained?

2) Am I free to go?

3) I don’t answer questions.


As much as I drive, my interactions with law enforcement are minimal, but I know what to say as well as what not to say. EVERY SINGLE QUESTION a cop asks is an attempt to gather incriminating evidence against you. NEVER answer questions like “Where are you going/headed?” Or “Where are you coming from?”

Just answer “I do not care to discuss my day with you.”

[MichMan]

10. Seems like someone witnessing a brutal attack shouldn't stay silent

So if I witness an elderly person being attacked on the street and robbed, I shouldn't say anything to the police about it?

Doesn't make any sense.

[MissB]

11. Right.

I have spent a good deal of time lately talking to a deputy. It’s related to an issue in the neighborhood. Law enforcement is involved but they’re trying very hard *not* to arrest an elderly neighbor. We are all trying to get the neighbor the help they need, and m grateful for both the deputy and the county social worker for their efforts.

But yeah, lots of long conversations with the deputy.

On edit: folks need to use their best judgment. Not every interaction is bad, but the general advice not to say more than needed when approached or pulled over is good.