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Neal Katyal tweet (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2022 OP
Isn't that something. bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #1
Neal is right. DURHAM D Jun 2022 #2
It will be the norm for this partisan court. spanone Jun 2022 #3
We need Neal Katyal on the Supreme Court. ASAP. (nt) Paladin Jun 2022 #4
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #6
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jun 2022 #7
Katyal's a big part of the problem Pluvious Jun 2022 #9
Bingo! People gotta stop lionizing individuals because of a damn tweet. Grokenstein Jun 2022 #24
+1000! nt Shipwack Jun 2022 #28
EXCELLENT reminder, Grokenstein! calimary Jun 2022 #47
Hanks for the link. A bit different perspective on the guy than I get from MSNBC mjvpi Jun 2022 #49
Agreed Rebl2 Jun 2022 #11
I love him. 🥰 🥰 🥰 a kennedy Jun 2022 #39
Filthy hypocrites in black robes (the majority anyway). BlueBloodedAmerican Jun 2022 #5
authoritarianism is built on ability to rationalize the lying, hypocrisy, and denial of reality certainot Jun 2022 #46
Gov Kathy Hochul has said she will call a special session of the NY legislature. roamer65 Jun 2022 #8
The dark money behind the Federalist Society is calling in their chits. rubbersole Jun 2022 #10
Worse than 'weird'. The SCOTUS will overturn precedent on Roe to restrict bodily autonomy freedoms ancianita Jun 2022 #12
It won't be weird. evolves Jun 2022 #13
Don't expect consistency. BMW2020RT Jun 2022 #14
But it is consistent qazplm135 Jun 2022 #41
Not unusual MurrayDelph Jun 2022 #15
This 👇 Nevilledog Jun 2022 #18
this ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #21
After this and Roe is overturned SCOTUS will be completely delegitimized so that when Pepsidog Jun 2022 #16
Trump had his handy helper UpInArms Jun 2022 #51
Scotus: umm, no it won't In It to Win It Jun 2022 #17
Bravo Traildogbob Jun 2022 #19
It's like hypocrisy is actually what keeps Republicans alive. ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #20
It's not really weird, OR hypocritical, based on how the Constitution works. thesquanderer Jun 2022 #43
If I were looking for an American vacation BidenRocks Jun 2022 #22
Conservatives embrace opposing concepts IronLionZion Jun 2022 #23
Roe v Wade has only days to live. roamer65 Jun 2022 #25
Given the heavily biased decisions in favor of the religious beliefs of white evangelicals only, Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #30
No argument here. roamer65 Jun 2022 #32
I've said it before: AleksS Jun 2022 #26
interesting bigtree Jun 2022 #27
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #29
Yes, guns have more rights than women. ShazzieB Jun 2022 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #45
"Gonna be very weird." (Edited for brevity.) dchill Jun 2022 #31
Good edit. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #36
Well, guns are necessary, abortions are not (sarcasm) because men don't need abortions. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #33
I went to high school with a kid who shot himself in the foot...twice paparush Jun 2022 #34
Ouch! Same foot? LymphocyteLover Jun 2022 #38
Looks weird? That never stopped them before. Martin68 Jun 2022 #35
Yes, but conservatives don't mind being hypocrites at all... and if it pisses off liberals, LymphocyteLover Jun 2022 #37
"Why Liberals Should Back Neal Gorsuch," by Neal Katyal WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #40
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #42
2nd amendment, but how come they ignore WELL REGULATED + MILITIA? pansypoo53219 Jun 2022 #48
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #52

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
2. Neal is right.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

However, only Democrats are smart enough to get this.

Republicans and people like Susan Sarandon don't have any idea about inconsistencies.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
9. Katyal's a big part of the problem
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jun 2022

He did a lot to get Gorsuch on the court, because buttering up the justices makes Katyal money (his clients pay him to get favorable decisions from SCOTUS.)

"The point is not that Katyal should be disbarred or something for representing a client. The point is that the cases Katyal chooses to take, the arguments he chooses to make, even the firm he chooses to work for, all speak to his values. He cannot separate his politics, whatever he thinks they are, and whatever he wants everyone else to think they are, from his decision to defend Nestle against the threat of potential lawsuits from enslaved children."


https://newrepublic.com/article/160481/neal-katyal-depravity-big-law

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
24. Bingo! People gotta stop lionizing individuals because of a damn tweet.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jun 2022

Sure, upvote the tweet, but hold your applause for the person until you know 'em a little better.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
46. authoritarianism is built on ability to rationalize the lying, hypocrisy, and denial of reality
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM
Jun 2022

needed to create the certainty they're addicted to - what defines authoritariansm - measured sometimes with the uncertainty avoidance index or UAI

sex on the wrong brain theory says that irrational need for certianty, finality, closure is what happens when impatient satisfaction demanding reproductive impulses are directed to brain functions like logic and rational thinking - caused by right handed masturbation - and some humans have inherited a susceptibility to that mental disorder - which helped survival of their ancestors in times of conflict or favored them in civilizations that favored and selected for servitude, lack of empathy, lack of imagination, conformity, etc

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. Gov Kathy Hochul has said she will call a special session of the NY legislature.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jun 2022

In the case of the overruling of “may issue”.

This is war with the garbage court.

rubbersole

(6,688 posts)
10. The dark money behind the Federalist Society is calling in their chits.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jun 2022

Making the USA the way their grandparents had it.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
12. Worse than 'weird'. The SCOTUS will overturn precedent on Roe to restrict bodily autonomy freedoms
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

for 51% of the country, while it will honor precedent on Heller to expand killing freedoms for anyone age 18 or over.




qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
41. But it is consistent
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:44 PM
Jun 2022

they don't think there is a right to an abortion and they do think there is a right to bear arms.

I think they are wrong, twice, but it's not because of a lack of consistency.

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
15. Not unusual
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jun 2022

I remember Scalia releasing two opinions a day apart that used the same concept to justify to diametrically-opposed opinions.

"Original intent" is a smokescreen to reverse-engineer the answer they wanted.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
16. After this and Roe is overturned SCOTUS will be completely delegitimized so that when
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

they try to uphold the stealing of the next election by republicans, American democracy will officially come to an end. It’s our courts and it’s respect for the rule of law and precedent that made America the envy of the world and an economic power. Trump will have officially broken SCOTUS and America and can add them to his long list of failures.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
43. It's not really weird, OR hypocritical, based on how the Constitution works.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jun 2022

The basic reading of the Constitution is that things that are protected by the Constitution cannot be left to the states; things that are not protected by the constitution are left to the states.

There is no hypocrisy in saying some things should be left to the states and others should not.

The question at hand is, rather, whether something is or is not protected by the Constitution,.

*IF* you believe abortion is not protected by the Constitution, then it should be left to the states. That's typically been a matter of whether you accept that a right to privacy, though not explicitly stated in the Constitution, is implicit.

*IF* you believe that concealed carry IS protected by the Constitution, then it should NOT be left to the states. That's a matter of how the second amendment is interpreted.

You don't have to like (or accept) those arguments for leaving one to the states and the other not, but it is not intellectually unjustifiable or inherently inconsistent.

BidenRocks

(826 posts)
22. If I were looking for an American vacation
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

I would NOT visit the US.
Lets start with boycotts of our tourism industry.
This place is too dangerous!
Enjoy your guns!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. Roe v Wade has only days to live.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jun 2022

If they are going to overrule NY state sovereignty, they are going to overrule Roe v Wade.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
30. Given the heavily biased decisions in favor of the religious beliefs of white evangelicals only,
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jun 2022

I fear that this radical Court will go even further than overturning Roe and leaving states to choose their own abortion laws. They have already ignored established precedents, just ruled in favor of Maine taxpayers having to support a religious school that practices and preaches hatred of LGBTQ, and now ruled that New York may not pass its own gun safety laws to protect the public. There is absolutely nothing to stop them from ruling not only to overturn Roe but also to deny states the right to allow abortion. They will go back to the 1800# when states passed laws to make abortion illegal. If that happens, we need an underground railroad for abortion.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
44. Yes, guns have more rights than women.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 10:43 PM
Jun 2022

Guns also have more rights than school children and their teachers. Guns have more rights than anybody!

Response to ShazzieB (Reply #44)

paparush

(7,964 posts)
34. I went to high school with a kid who shot himself in the foot...twice
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

never thought I'd live to see that again.

Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #48)

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