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Thomas declares: "the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home" - there is ZERO textual support for that. Ex. 9999 why "originalism" is a scam
Irish_Dem
(46,492 posts)spooky3
(34,403 posts)d_b
(7,462 posts)The constitution doesnt say you can
The constitution doesnt say you cant
Pack the fucking court already.
Model35mech
(1,493 posts)A home invader?
A mugger?
A Gang member?
Liberal Democrats??????????????
I don't think so.
More likely, it was coordinated assaults on territory and communities of Americans by British, French, Spanish and Indigenous attacks.
Jerry2144
(2,080 posts)was to protect against an uprising of the slaves, similar to what occurred in Haiti (I think) around 1791 (history's not my strongest suit) and to protect against a Native American threat that never really was. Since the founders didn't want a standing army, they wanted states to provide militias. And the slave states wanted armed people to be ready to put down any revolt by the enslaved people so they pushed harder for this and the language "...being necessary to the security of a free State..." . It was intended for slave owners. The second really is based in racism.
You can see this with all the Stand Your Ground laws that really only apply when used against Scary Black People(TM) and the police brutality towards all minorities.
This should have been revised when we passed the 14-16th
Model35mech
(1,493 posts)We may argue about WHICH attackers were on the minds of the Founders.
But SURE AS HELL the militia (a -group- of armed militants who quite honestly would take much more than a minute to organize) was not intended to primarily: protect people from assaults on the street or in their homes, or to protect against home invasion by criminals (although attacks by national opponents, well, maybe), or to stop Political Activists from attacking homes of Gov't officials, or to protect against Gangs that are trying to take control of local government to promote their franchise in the drug trade, etc.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,645 posts)known by the Latin words "Fac eam introeuntibus vobis".
That translates to "Make it up as you go".
Sanity Claws
(21,840 posts)How can that be included in originalism? 2nd A must be limited to muskets.
nuxvomica
(12,409 posts)Even though it's implicit in at least the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 9th, 13th, and 14th amendments.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)how people who were clearly excluded from 1776 original united states, originalism is a convenient strategy, with no depth of thought to it at all.