****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 5, thread THREE****

[BumRushDaShow]

(THREAD 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216833895)


CSPAN3, for those who have access to that cable channel, will be broadcasting it on TV starting at 2:45 pm EDT.

For those without a TV and/or who are unable to watch (at work or home or if traveling, etc), here are a few of what are many streams that can be used to view/listen to today's session (the major broadcast - ABC, NBC, CBS, and cable networks CNN, MSNBC, etc., and print - WaPo, WSJ, etc., usually stream these as well) -

[Lars39]

1. Gaetz, Gohmert, Greene, Brooks, who else wanted a pardon?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

4. The dotard is transactional. A pardon can be bought for a nominal fee.

[Lars39]

28. a la Ray Blanton..and that didn't end well

[spooky3]

6. Biggs nt

[Mersky]

13. Scott Perry, and then Marjorie Taylor Greene asked for one from Philbin

[Mersky]

17. Jordan talked about them, but didn't ask for one from Cassidy Hutchinson

[AngryOldDem]

2. All the congresspeople asking for pardons...

Matt Gaetz at the front of the line.

EDIT — Waiting for Gaetz to throw a temper tantrum…

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Focusing on Matt Gaetz asking for a pardon

multiple video clips of witnesses affirming that and a "blanket pardon" request

[crickets]

14. Now why would Gaetz ask for such a broad pardon, hmm? nt

[wnylib]

70. I expected to hear Laudermilk's name.

Also Bang Bang. McCarthy?

What about Senators?

The named people were playing leading roles, but others were complicit.

[BumRushDaShow]

72. Some of them arrogantly believe

they are immune (like Cruz, whose name needs to be brought up since he was writing the CT legal "theories" behind the scenes).

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Kinzinger finished his questions

[Lars39]

7. Pardons for all of Trump's staff?! Good grief

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Kinzinger now giving his closing statement

[Lars39]

9. Kinzinger closing remarks

I think he done pretty well today

[spooky3]

11. Agree--and their staff have done a great job with the content prep nt

[Lars39]

23. I can't imagine the amount of work all this has taken

[crickets]

18. Agreed. Another day of sledgehammer testimony. nt

[GumboYaYa]

27. He did great!

I am impressed!

[wnylib]

71. Side note on the closing remarks.

During that time, the PBS camera showed the witnesses while Kinzinger was speaking. There was a wall sconce behind Engel. His head blocked the sconce but the glow from it left a halo effect around Engel's head. Engel is German for angel.

Strange coincidence.

[PA_jen]

10. Trump talked about a blanket Pardon for his family?

did I hear that correctly?

[blogslug]

22. Kind of everybody

For his staff, that part I heard. Were Ivanka and Jared still considered to be "staff" at that point?

[Wednesdays]

29. I don't remember them resigning before 1/20/20

Do you?

[blogslug]

37. Not off the top of my head

It's pretty hard to remember because of the four years of insanity that came before it.

[livetohike]

12. "Whack job conspiracy theories" Kinzinger.

🤣

[ancianita]

15. Pardons asked for after Jan 6

Mo Brooks calls and asks for him and Matt Gaetz, as confirmed by Hirschman;
and Biggs, Gohmert and Perry asked according to the prez's special assistant.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Kinzinger describing the CTs that were being flung around

[AngryOldDem]

19. "Very fragile ego."

Kinzinger is summing it up very well.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Kinzinger: "Clark plead the 5th over 125 times"

[livetohike]

21. Clark plead the 5th 500 times!

Edit: Guess I misheard the number.

[Novara]

24. Fucking assholes asking for pardons.

MTG was barely even SWORN IN and she was already asking for a pardon for her criminality.

These motherfuckers ALL NEED TO BE KICKED OUT NOW.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Kinzinger done and Liz Cheney giving her closing remarks

[dalton99a]

26. Kinzinger did a great job today.

[sinkingfeeling]

31. I like him even though he is a Republican.

[3catwoman3]

60. Just looked him up.

He has been on active duty with the Air Force, and is currently a member of the Wisconsin Air National Guard, in which he is a Lieutenant Colonel. He is a pilot, and has flown refueling airplanes and surveillance aircraft.

[sinkingfeeling]

61. He grew up here in Bloomington, IL.

[Novara]

30. " ... in the hearings ahead..." - plural

There will be more. More than at least one.

[ancianita]

32. Cheney to the witnesses: "Your actions should have a longer term impact."

"... It can be difficult to accept that president trump betrayed you and abused your trust, but it is important to accept that fact...."

[SheltieLover]

52. That's gonna leave a mark.

[ancianita]

56. Pretty sure that she's saying it for the record.

[SheltieLover]

58. No doubt! But I wonder what will happen if qpukes are indi yed

& tfg says he pardoned them all. Pockeg parden garbage. ?

[ancianita]

63. There's the pardon list you can look up. From what I see, no congress person got one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump#Pardons

[SheltieLover]

64. Thx, but what about secret pardons?

[ancianita]

67. We'll only know if he issued secret pardons when he's actually charged by the DOJ.

There will be real consideration about his pardons. True, only the formal ones issued by Jan 20 had gone through due process.

But since any secret pardons he issued were made in the context of the state of GA charges of corrupt intent, those secret pardons might be nullified, and he might not get away with any of it.

[SheltieLover]

68. Thx!

Thaf would be my hope & expectation, nullification of pardons for coconspirators.

[ancianita]

69. It could happen. But. After all this work by Congress, FBI & DOJ, to let these pardons

stand would be a failure of Rule of Law they just couldn't abide by. Too much loss, harm and damage has been done to the functioning of the federal and state governments to let any secret pardons go through after the worst and largest seditious conspiracy plot in U.S. history has been proven through years of investigation.

If they let secret pardons stand in this dark historical time, I see two things happening.

First, it would embolden all the trumpcult voters, militias and half-assed attorneys to trumpet that they're the real good guys, go with this playbook over again, only with DeSantis, the smarter version of trump, with corporate backers to establish minority corporate rule.
Second, many of the 81 million Democratic voters would be watching their backs, maybe looking to either hide or leave the country, given both the recent Miranda ruling by the SCOTUS, and the tendency of right winger LEO's to let mass murders happen.

Bottom line. I just don't see secret pardons saving the day for the bad guys.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Cheney imploring the RW loons that their trust was abused

[crickets]

43. I thought it was good that she addressed

tfg's betrayal of his supporters and how difficult it would be to accept that. It won't reach many of them, but it may reach some.

[spooky3]

44. Agree nt

[BumRushDaShow]

59. The Q loons and MAGats won't be convinced

but the OTHERS who "went along to go along" and who when called out on it, would instead knee-jerk insult Biden and "the libs" and the "Democrat leadership", like almost the entire PA GOP legislature, is being "talked to" with her comments.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Thompson giving his closing remarks

[Arkansas Granny]

38. He's not mincing words at all.

[Lars39]

35. So who asked Jared directly for a pardon, bypassing Hutchison,etc?

[Hela]

36. I love hearing Bennie Thompson say, "Donald Trump lost"

Over and over and over and over....

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Thompson - "Backup plan on January 6 - 'A mob and vile threats'"

"Violence became the last option"

[malaise]

40. In service of Donald Trump

Brilliant Benny T!

[livetohike]

42. He's great!

👍🏻🙂

[BumRushDaShow]

41. ****COMMITTEE NOW ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY****

[livetohike]

45. Thanks again! Great job with the threads today. n/t

[Arkansas Granny]

49. I have been on the edge of my seat. The testimony today has been the most damning.

I am so thankful that those men defied Trump's orders.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PLAY-BY-PLAY COMMENTARY!

[SheltieLover]

54. Ty for the thread!

[ancianita]

47. We all thank you, BRDS!

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[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. Clark is "completely incompetent"

Everyone was going to resign if he was appointed AG

[malaise]

51. He's going to prison

Stupid Eff!

[sinkingfeeling]

50. Thanks for the threads.

[crickets]

53. Thanks for the threads, BRDS!

Thanks to all commenting along with helpful input!

[electric_blue68]

55. Thanks again, BRDS .

[Mersky]

57. Great anchoring again, BRDS!

And thanks to all DUers in here.

[FalloutShelter]

62. X100

[tanyev]

65. Watching the panel on CNN afterwards.

A little disconcerting to hear the panel members acting so astounded about details that I know were mentioned in earlier news stories. I mean, they are immersed in news coverage every single day for their jobs. Why are they just now finally getting it???

[BumRushDaShow]

66. I'm actually watching MSNBC

since Mitchell ain't there!